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2017 APD/ADC MBB Full Time Recruiting Updates

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Hey guys, it's time for the sequel to last year's popular thread. This thread is primarily focused towards those APDs/ADCs (PhD/JD/MD) applying for full-time positions to MBB. While MBB seems to have a monopoly on the ADC application process, we can also use this thread to share information and deadlines about tier-2 (LEK, Oliver Wyman, etc.) opportunities for ADCs.

Here are the links to the previous threads from 2016 and 2015.

I'll start us off:

PhD STEM / USA - West Coast / Semi-Target

  • McK - submitted 7/17, waiting
  • Bain - submitted 7/20, waiting
  • BCG - submitted 7/23, waiting

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Aug 10, 2017

Post-doc (target) / Ph.D. STEM (semi-target) / East Coast
McKinsey - Submitted 7/15, Waiting
Bain - Submitted 7/20, Waiting
BCG - Submitted 7/20, Waiting - Rejected on 8/10

Jul 26, 2017

Received email from McKinsey for taking the CEB - 7/26

Aug 1, 2017

Received email from BCG today (8/1) to have a short phone chat with the ADC Recruiting Director from Chicago. I think this is because I work in NYC and know the recruiting people there relatively well (open houses, competitions) but my first office choice was Chicago.

Sep 16, 2017

when did you receive the CEB link email after you received email from McK?

Aug 3, 2017

8/3 --> Took McKinsey CEB, quite similar to the practice questions, and they provide 8 more verbal and quant practice questions.

Aug 10, 2017

PhD STEM/east coast US-Asia/ non-target
McK - get an interview from Insight program. No scheduling yet.
BCG - submitted 7/23, notified the 1st round interview 8/10
Bain - submitted 7/30, dinged 8/10

I speculate that BCG and Bain recruiter communicate with each other to give the decision. They have been sending out reply at the same day last year as well. :P

Aug 10, 2017

Congratulations. Would you mind share the date of your 1st round interview. Thx.

Aug 10, 2017

Thanks!
I haven't received a specific date yet. Will let you know once I heard back.

Jul 24, 2017

PhD STEM/South US/ semi-target
McK - Invited after the Insight program. Interview scheduled on 8/8
BCG - Invited to early interview after Bridge application(didn't attend Bridge). Interview scheduled on 8/11
Bain - Invited to first-round after AIC. Interview scheduled on 8/28
Good luck everyone!!

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Aug 8, 2017

How did your McK interview go?

Aug 8, 2017

Mixed feelings. One interview went really well(connected with the interviewer+nail the case). Didn't solve the math problem for the other case (There were 3 big charts to look at and the calculation were ambiguous. But I heard from other candidates that they found that the math problem is really hard too).
We'll see how it goes. Keep my fingers crossed.

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Aug 30, 2017

Got dinged after one week waiting for McKinsey. Both interviewers thought I did a good job during the interview but no office picked me up for a final round. Got into Bain final round, which will be in two weeks.
Anyone has suggestions on how to prepare for Bain final round?

Oct 10, 2017

For McK, would you mind sharing which offices did you apply?

Jul 24, 2017

I have heard one of my classmates getting a request to take an assessment test from McKinsey. If you didn't hear back, does that mean you didn't get in?

Jul 25, 2017

I have the same question. I heard two teammates get the online assessment invitation.

Jul 25, 2017

I'm not sure. It's possible that they are sending out emails for the assessment test in waves and/or by region. It's also entirely possible that we didn't get in. :/

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Jul 25, 2017

MD currently working in the US.

McK - submitted and invited to take CEB test (received that email yesterday); previously attended their MD workshop over summer.

BCG - interview mid Aug given after attending Bridge.

Bain - submitted application (no prior interaction with firm at all).

Jul 26, 2017

Question to the people who got invited to take the assessment test - were you guys all invited to the insight program or simply received the invite to take the test after your online application?

Jul 26, 2017

I did not apply to Insight. I just applied fresh, and was invited to do the CEB test the day before yesterday.

Jul 26, 2017

When did you submit your application?

Jul 26, 2017

I applied fresh as well, on July 17th, and got the CEB email today, on July 26th.

Jul 28, 2017

I applied on the 17th and got the CEB email on the 24th. Did not apply to the insight program.

Jul 26, 2017

Experienced JD, Midwest, Target. Previously Bain 1st round, BCG 2nd round as experienced hire via referral, did not use referral this time.

McK: Submitted 7/17 - HR reject 7/21. This is ridiculously fast, my guess is for some reason my online application didn't go through the 2018 ADP recruiting channel.
Bain: Submitted 7/21 - waiting
BCG: Submitted 7/23 - waiting

Aug 18, 2017

I was told that ADP channel is only for currently enrolled students/post-docs and not for candidiates with professional experience

Aug 18, 2017

Figured so, only McK specifically mentioned that experienced JDs are also welcomed to apply, then they turned me down pretty quickly. No news from BCG/Bain either, will have to apply off-cycle via referrals later this year.

Jul 26, 2017

PhD, social sciences, West Coast, semi-target

McK -- applied 7/17 -- waiting
BCG -- 1st round interview on 8/11 after phone interview for Bridge (not accepted to Bridge)
Bain -- applied 7/21 -- waiting

Aug 15, 2017

BCG -- invited to final round (tentative date 9/8)
McKinsey -- rejection 8/11
Bain -- rejection 8/10

Aug 15, 2017

How was the first round? I am gonna have two 45-minutes case interviews. Any behavioral questions or just cases?

May 15, 2018

do you mind sharing how did you hear back about second round interview for BCG? email/phone?

Aug 11, 2017

How's the interview?

Jul 26, 2017

Postdoc, STEM, Midwest, Target

McK: 7/16 - Waiting
BCG - 7/19 - Waiting (received an email to confirm the earliest and latest start dates)
Bain - 7/19 - Waiting

Aug 10, 2017

Update:

McK: Waiting (No CEB invite yet)
BCG: 1st round - will be scheduled next week
Bain: Reject

Aug 10, 2017

Congrats!

Aug 10, 2017

did you do bridge?

Jul 26, 2017

5th year PhD student, STEM, Midwest, Non-Target

McK: 7/17 - Waiting
BCG - 7/23 - Waiting (received an email to confirm the earliest and latest start dates)
Bain - 7/21 - Waiting

Jul 26, 2017

PhD, STEM, Northeast, Target

McK: 7/17, waiting
Bain: 7/20, waiting
BCG: not applied

Jul 26, 2017

PhD STEM/South/Semi-target
McK - rejected from Insight but invited to early interview rounds for full time
Bain - attended AIC, waiting for full time response
BCG - rejected from bridge, waiting for full time response

Aug 10, 2017

Update:

Bain - rejected

Aug 10, 2017

Sorry to hear that. And Bain's AIC sounds like a joke. They invited you to AIC but did not give you an interview? Then what's the point of organizing the AIC?

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Jul 27, 2017

I applied last year to McKinsey, took the test and passed, but didn't get past Round 1. I was asked to apply again in the following year. I was wondering if anyone else has been in this situation and if you were asked to take the test again the following year?

Jul 27, 2017

Similar situation. Applied for intern last year to McKinsey, passed the test, dinged at Round 1. This time I was not asked to do the test either.

Jul 27, 2017

Oh I see, anyone who has taken the test and passed before get invited to take it again this time around?

Aug 10, 2017

Did they contact you saying you will be interviewed for first round or did the recruiter tell you that after your unsuccesfull application last time around?

Aug 10, 2017

I'm almost in the same situation. Took the test for Insight last year and dinged at Round 1 interview after Insight. Was not asked to apply again this year but applied full time anyway. Waiting for any response currently.

Jul 28, 2017

Undergrad (target) / PhD (semi-target)
McKinsey- invited to take online CEB test
Bain- waiting
BCG- waiting

Jul 29, 2017

Can I just ask, are these applications for starting in September 2018? Whenever I check the websites they say applications open in August/September.

Jul 29, 2017

Yes, these are for start dates for late next summer (I think some start in August 2018). The APD deadlines for Bain, BCG, and McKinsey have already passed, but applications for other types of candidates may still be ongoing.

Jul 29, 2017

Oh, why does it say "Applications are accepted from August through October"? When I went to a BCG advanced degree event last year they gave a similar timeline.

http://www.bain. com/offices/losangeles/en_us/careers/mba-advanced-degree.aspx

Jul 30, 2017

Non-target undergrad biochem, work experience chemistry manufacturing, Non-target chemistry PhD. UG GPA 3.3, GRAD GPA 3.9

McKinsey -7/17-waiting
Bain-7/27-waiting
BCG 7/27-waiting

I guess I submitted past the deadline for BCG and Bain, thought it was rolling admission if you didn't attend a target school. Guess we'll see how it goes.

Aug 14, 2017

BCG- Heard back 8/10- no interview
McKinsey- Heard back 8/14- no interview
Bain-still waiting as of 8/14
Oliver Wyman- Applied 7/31
LEK- Applied 7/31
Clearview- Applied 8/3

Aug 14, 2017

What role at Oliver Wyman did you apply for? Do you have a link? Best of luck!

Aug 15, 2017

are you an APD? does Oliver Wyman consider APD applicants without business experience?

Aug 17, 2017

clearview-dinged on 8/17

Jul 30, 2017

If you don't mind me asking... how did you (and everyone on this thread) know the deadline for McK and BCG? I was able to find Bain's app deadline on its website but had no clue about M and the other B.

Jul 30, 2017

In my case, we had final reminder emails sent to the school with the deadlines for the APD application.

Jul 30, 2017

Here was the McKinsey link: http://www.mckinsey. com/careers/students/application-deadlines
Here is a BCG link (although I went through the grad school "search for your school" tool and that was where I found the original deadline): https://www.bcg. com/en-us/careers/path/consulting/advanced-degrees/apply.aspx

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Jul 30, 2017

Anyone heard anything about deadlines from non-MBB firms? I.e. Deloitte life science specialist, Oliver Wyman, etc

McKinsey- interview thru Insight mid aug
BCG- interview thru Bridge mid aug
Bain- interview through AIC aug

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Jul 30, 2017

I've been taking my dates from the Oxford campus page, which I assumed was an international date! I'm wondering if there is a different application date for different countries, as McKinsey seem to say "US applicants" and "UK applicants", although I can't see how this would work as surely the US offices would be full already...

Jul 30, 2017

Re-visiting the McK website it states 26 Oct deadline for London and international, except US. So yeah, US is probably full by now...

Jul 30, 2017

I've emailed to confirm, but they really need to make it clearer in future events that there is an earlier deadline, and to appreciate that when looking at a campus' page, people may be thinking of applying to offices outside of that country.

Jul 30, 2017

My question is for those who attended Bridge or Insight.
Could those who attended offer any additional perspective/knowledge/experience they gained at these events with respect to the interview process (personal or case components)? I did not get accepted to Bridge or Insight, but am interviewing with McKinsey in a few weeks and am waiting on BCG.

Jul 31, 2017

I'm interviewing in person, no ceb test. I'm from Canada.

Jul 31, 2017

Does anyone have an idea on when to expect a rely from Bain or McKinsey?

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Jul 31, 2017

According to my CEB email from McKinsey :

Please note:
* Assessments must be completed by end of day, Thursday, August 3
* RD1 Interview invitations will be communicated in mid-August
* RD1 Interviews will take place in September; candidates interested in non-US offices may have a slightly different timeline

Jul 31, 2017

Hey, re: Mck CEB test.

I've just done the CEB test, and on my assessment homepage it says "completed" - but nothing else happened when I sat the test... no 'click here to finish' or 'results' page. What gives? Do we not get the results from the real test?

Jul 31, 2017

I believe from last's years cohort that you do not get the results. They are sent to McKinsey and I guess we just hope for the best :)

Jul 31, 2017

3.25 uGPA. 3.66 JDGPA.

McKinsey -7/21-waiting
Bain-7/21-waiting
BCG 7/21-waiting

Fingers crossed.

Jul 31, 2017

Does McKinsey generally let you know if you are not invited to take the CEB test?

Jul 31, 2017

Yes.

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Aug 1, 2017

Similarly, if we haven't been invited to take the CEB test yet is there still a chance? Most people seemed to have received invitations for CEB last week.

STEM PhD/East Coast/Target

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Aug 2, 2017

Midwest, STEM Ph.D., semi target school, applying non-US office

McKinsey -7/21-waiting, signed up the International Recruiting Night 2017, no news...
Bain-7/21-waiting, no news...
BCG 7/21-waiting, received the email to confirm the earliest and latest start dates

Questions: 1. If I haven't been invited to take the CEB test yet, is there still a chance?
2. Does the application to non-US offices have a different timeline? Does anyone know something?

Great Thanks! Good luck!

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Aug 8, 2017
  1. Interviews for international offices are early-mid October, rather than mid-August. Second rounds are also sooner: ~1 week after first rounds.
Aug 10, 2017

Great thanks! Just got the email from BCG international recruiting team to have the interview in Mid Oct.

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Aug 22, 2017

Good luck all! Given some people might be interested in interviewing for non-MBB firms, I'll include other firms I've applied to as well.

PharmD / USA - East Coast / Non-Target
McK - submitted 7/17, took CEB, heard back 8/11. 1st round interview 9/6-9/7
Bain - submitted 7/21, dinged
BCG - submitted 7/23, heard back 8/11, 1st round interview 9/8
Clearview - submitted 8/6, heard back 8/10. Interview 8/24
Putnam Associates - submitted 8/13
Oliver Wyman - submitted 8/13

Aug 7, 2017

JLibr - Did you get a different required "complete by" date? Everyone else has been talking about the Aug 3 completion date they were given by McKinsey.

Aug 7, 2017

Sorry, just didn't update. I had the same deadline as everyone else.

Sep 3, 2017

FYI all, some tier 2 deadlines coming up:

LEK deadline (LSS) = 9/4
ATK deadline (Sr. Business Analyst) = 9/17
OW deadline (entry level, 1 yr eval to MBA-level instead of 2 AFAIK) = 9/17

Sep 4, 2017

Could you say a little bit more about ATK & OW, please? In particular, how did you learn that PhDs are hired as Sr Business Analyst at ATK and about the PhD promotion pattern at OW? Thanks.

Sep 11, 2017

Another deadline:

Parthenon-EY (entry level Associate): 9/29

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Sep 22, 2017

May I ask where you got this deadline? I can't seem to find any deadlines (I'm at a non-target for EY-P). Thanks!

Aug 11, 2017

Engineering PhD, South USA, non-target, (target for BCG only)
McK - submitted 7/17, waiting
Bain - submitted 7/21, waiting
BCG - 1st round 8/18 after attending Bridge

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Aug 4, 2017

Congratulations on making to final round for both MK and BCG. What feedback did they give you as reason not to extend an offer?

Aug 8, 2017

Thanks. McK asked me to have more leadership experience which I worked on for the last 1 year. BCG asked me to improve more on business knowledge. I think this feedback shows more or less what kind of people they prefer.

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Aug 7, 2017

I've applied to McKinsey, BCG and Bain around their deadlines and haven't heard anything from any of them until now. Is it reasonable to assume that my application has been rejected at all the three firms?

Aug 7, 2017

For everything I've ever applied for with MBB they have at least had the courtesy of sending rejections...it might be worth contacting the recruiter.

Aug 7, 2017

Thank you for providing that information.

Aug 7, 2017

No, I don't think anyone has heard back from Bain yet, and BCG hasn't scheduled the interviews yet either. The only likely rejection is from McKinsey if you didn't get a CEB test invite. (This information is for us who did not apply for the summer programs. Those that applied to Bridge/Insight seem to be fast-tracked or on a different schedule.)

Aug 7, 2017

Thank you for sharing that.

Aug 7, 2017

Does anyone know the deadline for Oliver Wyman and ZS? The only deadline I know other than MBB is LEK, which is Sep 3rd for the life science specialist.

Aug 7, 2017

QuintiilesIMS deadline is today. havent heard about the other firms aside from MBB

Aug 8, 2017

Was that deadline for advanced degree candidates? Do you have a link?

Aug 7, 2017

I have contacted the AT Kearney recruiter for my school (Midwest area) and they said ATK will only recruit summer associate this year. I would appreciate it if anyone can share some recruitment information about ATK in your area. Thanks!

Sep 3, 2017

Was told that ATK is still recruiting this year from someone in the firm (NY area). How many and whether that holds true laterally across regions, I don't know, but this came from both a consultant and the recruiting team.

Aug 7, 2017

about the CEB test, how many paragraphs and how many questions will be expected? (I am applying next year)

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Aug 7, 2017

It is standard CEB test. 19 minutes for 30 verbal questions, and 25 minutes for 18 numerical questions. The problems themselves are not difficult, but time is quite limited. I can barely finish all the questions in time.

Aug 7, 2017

Thank you for the info. One more question, about verbal questions, how many paragraphs are roughly included?

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Aug 9, 2017

Has anyone heard back from Bain?

Aug 9, 2017

Yes, I received an email for a Bain 1st round interview late last night and just read the email about 30 mins ago. I'm at an east coast target school.

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Aug 9, 2017

May I ask which office did you get the interview with?

Aug 9, 2017

Are you applying to an east coast office? If so, which one?

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Aug 9, 2017

E9999 - Did you do any summer program?

Aug 9, 2017

Got email for Bain 1st Round today. West coast.

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Aug 9, 2017

congrats!

Aug 9, 2017

Congrats! That's great. Did you do any of their summer programs? AIC or ADvantage?

Aug 9, 2017

Anyone heard back from CEB yet?

Aug 9, 2017

My understanding is that you did not get notified of your results. You either get an interview or you do not.

Aug 10, 2017

Did anyone experience application to MBB international offices, like Canada? What is the general timeline of recruiting? Are they later than US in general?
Thank you

Aug 10, 2017

received a rejection email from Bain today.

Aug 10, 2017

I just got the rejection email as well.

Aug 10, 2017

Bain is not interested in pursuing my application.

Aug 12, 2017

Undergrad: International, Target. Master+PhD: STEM,Target. (Edit->)Last year 1st round with McKinsey

McKinsey: waiting; rejected 8/11... (bit surprised...I was more interesting than last year)
BCG: waiting; invited to 1st round, 08/11
Bain: rejected, :(

Aug 10, 2017

Identical situation as yours.

Aug 10, 2017

PhD STEM Target
McKinsey: waiting
BCG: waiting
Bain: rejected - I interviewed for summer internships so was hoping to get a FT interview :(

Aug 10, 2017

Same here. Selected for summer internship interview, but rejected for full time.

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Aug 10, 2017

I quickly drew up a spreadsheet so we all have a little bit of a better overview whats going on

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IBU04R8XjK...

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Aug 11, 2017

Feel free to, bit busy myself right now. Someone can also add columns for cross offer stats and whatever at the end if they like

Aug 10, 2017

this is awesome. someone get this guy a beer.

Aug 10, 2017

starting to look like if you haven't yet heard from BCG it's a no go. but who knows.

Aug 11, 2017

lol someone deleted my entry...?

Aug 11, 2017

Think they're reschuffled because someone used the data filters, maybe try to look again

Aug 15, 2017

Hey guys- whoever is messing with the spreadsheet needs to stop. All of the Northeast entries have been deleted, including myself....

Aug 10, 2017

PhD: STEM Non target
Received an email for first round interview from BCG, the same day i got a rejection from Bain...

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Aug 10, 2017

what office were you applying to?

Aug 10, 2017

chicago

Aug 10, 2017

I received the rejection email from Bain today. Still haven't heard from BCG, although it seems like a lot of people are hearing back today.

PhD STEM / USA - West Coast / Semi-Target

McK - submitted 7/17, waiting (no invite for CEB)
Bain - submitted 7/20, rejected 8/10
BCG - submitted 7/23, waiting

Aug 11, 2017

Update; rejected from McKinsey today, after not being invited to take the CEB.

PhD STEM / USA - West Coast / Semi-Target

McK - submitted 7/17, rejected 8/11
Bain - submitted 7/20, rejected 8/10
BCG - submitted 7/23, waiting

Aug 11, 2017

Quite the busy day; another update. Got an interview with BCG. Very grateful to have an interview with one company.

PhD STEM / USA - West Coast / Semi-Target

McK - submitted 7/17, rejected 8/11
Bain - submitted 7/20, rejected 8/10
BCG - submitted 7/23, interview scheduled for early September.

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Aug 10, 2017

PhD STEM Non-Target
McKinsey: waiting
BCG: waiting
Bain: rejected on 8/10

Aug 10, 2017

It looks like everyone has heard something from Bain and BCG is starting to roll in? I applied to the DC offices a little late, I wonder if they didn't pull my application to look at it?

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