Morgan Stanley 2020 Sophomore SA Megathread
Didn't see any posts related to this topic, so wanted to create a thread where current freshman could discuss their recruiting efforts for Summer 2020. I applied for IB, GCM, and Quantitative Finance, what about you guys?
applied to ib sa2020, got hirevue instantly, it was 2 behavioral questions took less than 2 min
That's awesome, could you PM me the questions possibly?
Be able to talk about a recent global event/deal that interests you and a time you had a problem
Could you please PM me the questions? Thank you!
congrats! could you possibly PM the questions
are you diversity?
No I'm not, but I figured I'd apply anyways
Wow applications are released really early. Is there any advantage to applying right now rather than later? Will we be hearing back sooner or is it the same timeline?
Well there's no advantage to applying late.. I always apply ASAP. If you have a network it doesn't matter when you applied for resume pushes. Earlier is always better unless you are still recruiting for this summer & could still add more meat to your resume
I talked to the recruiter and they're open early but they're reviewing them all toward the latter half of the summer so you can treat it like a July opening but @champagnepaki" no advantage is really gained unless you're network is severely lacking
Is the Hirevue automatically given? I applied and never got one, but had a buddy who received one right away.
I feel like they're automatic, because I literally got it the second I submitted submit
Echoing this. I received one the second I applied. If you didn't get an email, check your application portal and it'll show action required.
its diversity only for sophomores(class of 2022). I talked to an MD and anyone non diversity doesnt make it past HR even with a push.
yea that's what i thought but the application is really easy so i just did it anyways because I thought it would at least show interest
MS might keep the file on hand if it passes the system screen. What's your GPA and do you go to a MS core school?
So do non-diversity people not even get a first-round phone interview? Or is it after that phone interview when non-diversity get dropped?
It doesn't say diversity only though on the actual app itself????
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Does anyone know the questions for MS Equity Research and Fixed Income Research? Thx!
I was non-diversity but still got HireVue maybe they will take some non diversity?
ALso i feel like admission is rolling because i was only given 2 days to complete Hirevue
Also will they be more sympathetic to earlier applicants? I did not do that well on Hirevue and now everybody knows the questions so i feel kind of done for...
Did you know what the questions were going into it? I did hirevue last week. Why do you think you did poorly?
I didn't know the questions going in. I also got tricked because I thought I was in practice mode but only realized partway in that I was in the actual interview so yeah lol rip MS.
Are there any other sophmore specific programs open yet? I know JPM opens in June Goldman is July (although that is basically a shot in the dark lol). Citi seems to be more leadership oriented so I"m not really sure If i have a chance or not.
Did the IB interview, planning on doing the ER one later! Does anyone know the timeline of everything (like when we hear back for the next steps)?
Was this a first round phone call interview? If so, when did you hear back?
Sorry, I should have clarified. I just meant that I finished the HireVue portion of the interview! I did not hear back yet but was wondering when we could expect to move on to the next step.
Has anyone heard back about first round interviews? Heard the Menlo Park office is starting to roll them out
I received invitation to complete online psychometric tests for IBD SA 2020. Does everyone get them. Non target from UK btw.
I got one too - non-target as well!
I don't think everyone gets them. I applied in March and just got the email today. It would seem pointless to wait 2 months to send me that email if it was just part of the application lol. Also the fact we all got it the same day should say something, unlike the Hirevue. Having said that i was certain i tanked the Hirevue part but guess not lol.
Any ideas on when sophomore SA recruiting is going to end? Should we expect superday(s) sometime this summer or closer to the fall?
Anyone do the online exam? Was it like the CS assessment where you have to work fast to complete?
Edit: Nvm, the assessment was quite fair...good thing I applied to a bunch of locations so by the time I got my NYC and Houston apps, I knew the numerical and logic questions inside and out haha
Were the questions pretty similar across different banks? Lol I feel like I did really bad on the numerical one so hopefully I'll do better for other banks if they have similar tests.
Are you a sophmore? Where else have you applied?
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Got the email to do the assessment. How do I opt out of the application process? No longer interested in MS SA 2020.
just don't take the assessment -- once 48 hours after receipt of the email hits you'll be automatically disqualified.
Is this actually true?
have you accepted an offer somewhere else?:)
Does anybody have any information regarding the steps for recruitment this year? Is it going to be Hirevue + Online Assesment -> Superday? Hirevue + Online Assesment -> Phone Screen -> Superday? If Anyone has any contacts who have information with regards to recruiting, it would be very helpful.
I completed the tests and don't feel as though I did super well. The situational judgement test had a lot of answers that were frankly horrible. Also, I was quit out of the switch challenge after reaching level 10 or 11 each time I did test even though time hadn't expired. Did anyone else have a similar experience? Feel free to PM me.
I actually thought the situational judgment was the easiest section didnt do well on the other 2 though I know some basic accounting but time crunch was still insane for numerical guessing I got 9-10 right. As for the logic one what is a good level? I got a level similar to you which I assumed wasn't that high kept missing the puzzles...
I got to level 25 on the switch challenge. The numerical was a nightmare.
Can anybody else not see the link for the reasoning tests? I got the email and clicked into my application center but it just says thanks for submitting your online assessments with no prompt to actually complete them.
I thought the assessment was for only UK students? I couldn’t find any precedence for this. It was hirevue-> phone interview->superday?
No I am Canadian and received an email. But I can't find the link anywhere. I emailed MS and am awaiting a response.
I think you missed the deadline. Everyone got the email May 16 afternoon so deadline would have been May 18. Sorry :(
Hey! Just for an update it they reset it for me- I still have time!
did you only have to do the assessment once? or is it like the hirevue where you do it multiple times for different locations?
I am a US student and my school is not a target for Morgan Stanley. Has anyone found any news/updates for their timeline?
Does anyone know what the next step is? I feel like this week would be when we start hearing back with regards to whether we are moving on. It shouldn't take too long to figure out percentiles, etc.
We all failed lol.
lol wish I had an SB to give you but so true xd.
The posting is still up on LinkedIn- I feel like people may be waiting for a while yet or its rolling now- just an educated guess though.
I'm assuming its rolling. We are probably round 1.
Can anyone confirm their assessment questions? Mine were as follows;
1.Situational- answered a slew of instant messages from hypothetical bankers/ teammates. I did Fairly well and answered all questions pretty quickly.
Numerical- given 6 different financial documents that had to be individually opened to view information. 18 questions in 6 minutes. Got my ass kicked on this. Answered 10 of them and might have only got 2-3 right.
Switch challenge- the input of shapes is the output. This definitely test how well your brain can analyze things quickly. I got to level 24-25 on this. Not sure what a good number is.
Yeah that's what it was. I'm not sure the weighting of the sections which would be interesting to know. How did you get level 25 tho? That's like over 4 a minute... Is this your first time doing the puzzles or have you had similar experience before?
First time. I couldn’t even find anything online in terms of what the assessment consisted of ahead of time, so it was tough to prepare for.
I got to round 27 on the numerical switchChallenge and I don't consider myself strong at quant at all. I've got friends that can hit 40+ easily on this so I wonder where the "cutoff" is going to be this year.. not that it'll ever be made public
Why would you even decide to take the test? You said that you already signed to a BB and if you were to get a super day invite then you would be effectively taking away an interview spot from someone else who likely doesn't have an offer.
Are you sure it is going to be iq tests -> superday? Seems like they would at least have a phone interview round in between...
You're right. I’ve seen on other threads that this guy has already signed for SA 2020 at Barclays (and that is for a junior role, not a sophomore one). Honestly really weird if he actually took the time to take the MS tests if he isn’t just lying (which would be even more weird).
For the switchChallenge, I personally don’t think it matters what “level” you got to but rather the difficulty of question you got to. For example, it started off with the most basic patterns and after a few “levels” they got harder and more complex. But if you got one wrong, the next question’s difficulty level would be a notch easier to where you once were able to answer correctly. So if you hypothetically kept getting questions wrong and were constantly fed the easiest (basic) questions, as a result, you’d easily fly up the “levels” and get to level 25+. I personally think that it’s the degree of difficulty the questions you reach that matters rather than the “level” since you can possibly be reach level 40 while only answering “difficulty level 1” questions. But then again, that’s just my rationale and I may be wrong.
I took the assessment multiple times since I applied to multiple locations and this was my observation
What level did you get to without any mistakes?
I got to lvl 12 before making mistakes (for reference the hardest one i got right was where there were two rows and each row had 3 choices and had to pick one from each to get final sequence)
Round 12 was the furthest I went mistake-free. I got to round 29 with mistakes in a different attempt for a different location.
This is a really good point that I didnt think of
Sorry messed up the quote feature and ended up with this that i dont know how to delete. See below for actual reply
Didn't read this until now. I applied to IB, Quant, and Fixed Income but have only been asked to do more than a hirevue for IB (online iq tests)
It would be helpful if one of yall let us know when you hear back regarding the next steps.
If anyone wants to know the Hirevue questions, I'll sell them for cheap.
If anyone wants to know the hirevue questions for free, literally look up earlier in this thread.
Anyone hear back,after the assessment?
Yes unfortunately, same thing happened to me. Its the exact same questions too. You won't have to do the tests again though. They'll email you telling you to take the tests, but then you click to begin and it immediately says you're finished.
It seems like only some people received the interview questions. Am I reading the thread wrong? Is it Hirevue interview questions, then iq questions, then super day or whatever will follow or just the iq questions then super day for some people?
Everyone got the hirevue and the online assessment. There's no word yet on whether its straight to superday or phone screen first.
Just finished my online assessments. Overall not bad, but the numerical one is impossible to finish at the given time frame and getting 80% of the questions right.
Did anyone hear back after they finished their HireVue & Assessments?
Completed the hirevue back in April. Did a few networking calls as well, but analysts hinted that they were not officially starting until mid summer unless you had an offer on the table.
I presume some people have done official 1r calls and possibly supers, but only top target schools who have networked hard.
Nope, at a target and spoke with bankers at all levels. They're reviewing everything after the deadline
I filled out the application for ER and immediately got a Hirevue invitation, but for IBD haven’t received anything and it’s been 2 days. Any idea why this might have happened? I emailed them asking why this occurred and haven’t gotten a response...
Is this program only for diversity candidates?
@crabcakes24 yes
I'm still not buying this. MS is clearly entertaining non-diversity candidates by giving a hirevue and then online tests. Furthermore, nowhere on the app itself does it state only 100% diversity. Rather it mentions how the program is to encourage diversity applicants. If they really just wanted diversity ONLY they would have created a filter to immediately DQ non-diversity applicants from the start.
it says in the application description that it is only for diversity candidates
Has anyone gotten news about phone interviews or superdays? I feel like I completed my hirevue a while ago
It was mentioned earlier in this thread that we wont hear anything back until probably late july/ early august
hey would you mind sharing the Hirevue questions? thanks in advance!
for JP morgan, found you through another thread. thanks!
Anyone know the timeline for GCM? IB deadline is July 7th but GCM has no deadline.
GCM is within IB at MS so July 7th as well
Does this mean people should start hearing back around that date?
Are phone screens and super days concurrent between IBD and GCM?
To people who applied to both IB and GCM, were the hirevues identical? Asking because I applied to IB a while ago but I'm thinking of applying to GCM too even though its not really my preference, and I'm trying to figure out whether I just need to regurgitate the recent deal/ problem answers or actually be prepped to answer new questions.
They're the same my friend
mine were different. GCM was much more markets focused, the IB ones were behavioral
Would you mind PMing me the IB questions?
look above in this thread
Sales & Trading Fixed Income HireView Questions - How did you become interested in financial markets? - Why a career in Fixed Income Sales & Trading? - What was a time you had to convince a team of people to change a course of action?
Anyone receive any news?
Not yet, hbu?
Apps close tonight. The earliest they get back to us is tomorrow, or at least during the weekday
Heard from analysts that the HR will first screen the hirevue after the ddl.
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I applied a week ago and still haven't gotten the hi revue yet... what does this mean?
Your gpa was below the cutoff or you didn't have the right graduation date. The hirevue should be automatic
I am a rising sophomore with a 3.94...
Hi guys--I heard from HR today that they are not reviewing candidates for 2020 IBD Sophomore Summer Analyst Program until it is closed on September 1st. (So I believe if you've done your Hirevue and other assessments there's nothing more unitl Sep.)
I thought those programs were closed as of July 7??
The ones that closed July 7 are IBD Summer Analyst for your junior year summer--sophomore summer programs are open.
What about GCM? Any word?
Just got the assessment yesterday.
What i have been reading so far is a 1. Situational 2. Numerical 3. Switch Challenge, however in my assessment description I got: 1. Numerical Reasoning Test 2. Inductive Reasoning Test 3. Situational Judgement Test
Anyone got this one before, any tips? I am familar with inductive and numerical (graphs and figures), but not situational judgement.
Situational is super simple, its like a texting app UI and you get texts from analysts, associates, MDs etc. with I think three different response options to choose from for each question. Just answer how you think they'd expect an analyst to answer.
Made the test yesterday.
Indeed situational was very easy and I scored excellent on that. Inductive reasoning got hard at the end, I figured I got 18/20 correct Numerical was a pain in the ass, did average on there, but had issues with the fact that the sheet would go over the question (so I had to re-close sheet sometimes to re-read question)
anyone hear anything from MS?
I applied over a month ago (from a target school) and did the hirevue for the quantitative finance sophomore sa. still haven't heard back regarding any tests I need to complete. are the tests sent to everyone? has anyone who applied to quant heard back yet (with tests or a phone interview)?
No, i only received the tests for IB but I also applied for quant fin
Has anyone heard back from HR about Superdays? Applied back when apps first opened with a referral. Completed hirevue and online assessment, but still have not heard back since then. Strange how MS opened apps early, yet GS has already given Superdays.
Anyone know about IBD Superdays?
bumping this anyone have any info about any of the divisions?
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is it correct we would be invited for a hirevue right after online assessment? or are the links sent at the same time? i've just finished my online assessment but not sure what next steps would be ....
is it correct we would be invited for a hirevue right after online assessment? or are the two links sent at the same time? i've just finished my online assessment but havent heard anything abt hirevue... not certain what the next steps are...
Has anyone heard back regarding the S&T timeline for MS and its groups (FI, Eq, BRM)? First rounds or superdays?
Has anyone heard back after Hirevue ? Especially Hong Kong /Beijing.
Haven't heard back anything, pls let us know when someone does.
Are the apps still open? Or is the recruiting timeline so advanced that there'd be no point applying now? Interested in IBD & Fixed Income and ER
Applications closed on July 7th so are no longer open at this point
They're still open online though.
Hi, did anyone hear back for first round interviews with MS for either equities, FI, or BRM?
nope. for me im till waiting to hear back after hirevue...
This is for high school Sophomores right? I just finished 8th grade but applied anyway. Fingers crossed, Marshall Stanley is my top choice.
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