+2 Ross best for placement but not sure of your finances. Overall best place to have good time get connections and college experience and still get top offer Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 to anyone reading, this thread is a mess because we don’t want other people interviewing against us. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Cause I had some friends who are enrolled in this Commodity Ms, and they had beetter acces at those commodity related roles (like Vitol, Trafigura, Louis-Dreyfus ecc). Sir IB_7
+2 Yeah but while the first job work is all gopher shit you need people in those seats to learn and develop. AI can handle the work but AI ain’t the future of the company/industry. credev99
+2 LBS MFA is good. Their cohort is very big now though (300 ish students) so you'll see more diluted outcomes. Cambridge is the most selective out of these but not as good professionally. adrien3
+2 Hey, really nice post—enjoyed reading it 🙂 jammyjhonshon
+2 You have a rather warped (and narrow) perspective if i may say. Desks don't exit, people do. I don't care what desk you're in if i can't stand sitting next to you, then i'm not going to hire you. Principal in HF - Other
+2 If you want to go to a SM HF, please stay in IB. I cannot believe nobody has said this yet but the pipeline from ER to SM HF is basically non existent. If we are talking MM HF, then that’s a different story. Associate 3 in ER
+2 I graduated from Exeter recently, this has been happening for a while. bordanjellfort
+2 Thanks for posting - couple of questions: patrick_bateman_
+2 And to play devil's advocate on myself. I miss the "ownership" feeling of PE where you had more control. Public investing is extremely passive with a goal of being right ~60% of the time. Investment Analyst in HF - EquityHedge
+2 If you can get a good GPA in math and have social skills, do it. I majored in math and everyone will just check the "intelligent" box when evaluating you. Lifestyle123
+2 Lmao talk about dumb. This post just takes the cake. Btw I'll let you in on a secret: China can buy oil elsewhere. mayoineko
+2 No idea but listening to WF speak at a conference, he seems pretty turbo and I'd assume he sets the culture  asmith_1
+2 O ye of little faith - STFU and trust the plan. MV is a competent leader who will get us to #6 in the Americas. If anything, JPM and GS should be copying us.  Intern in IB - Gen
+2 When people say access to the GP they usually mean the latter (ie equity ownership in the GP entity). Everyone gets carry starting from VP on up. Partners just get more of it than the levels below them of course. kuf135
+2 [email protected]: McIntire/Ross/McCombs gdogmoney
+2 I don't think this is uncommon at all- just a reflection of a lack of trust in the firm and strategy. For what it's worth I don't think this is true for all places. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 Pentagon Associate 3 in IB - Gen
+2 There will be Nuremberg trials for all of this. Heads will roll. Blood bath. Average voters ought to be shunned from society. LMBurn
+2 Landing a spot at any of those is pretty hard and will involve you starting in MO / BO unless you get an ops & scheduling position. Intern in HF - Other
+2 If i were you i would change your resume address to Chicago, and focus on applying to market rate associate roles in Chicago (middle market, wherever). Find an alumni connection in ER to talk to for every application. arbjunkie
+2 Congrats on Raine EbePrice
+2 Not to be a stonepeak apologist because obviously agree their performance is lackluster at best but at the time that they were raising their fund 4, funds 1-3 all were top quartile infrastructure funds (fund 3 was on track Associate 2 in PE - Other
+2 The problem with seniors thinking that they did it back in the day so juniors should do it now is that they conveniently forget how much they got paid back in the day vs. how much juniors get paid now. Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+2 No but I do use natural products in an effort to maintain good hair and skin.  Retinol has worked great for the skin.  I am convinced that using retinol has led to much greater facial hair growth. financeabc
+2 The financial markets specialisation and placements are better at escp as far as I know. Didn't go to either school so just speaking from what I've seen in the market.  Analyst 1 in IB - Restr
+2 Are bee see Work2BMF
+2 larry david: lottaGWs
+2 Honestly don't see a huge pipeline difference. flipcup
+2 I'd recommend sticking it out at least a year and then re-evaluating. PEanon
+2 Also in FIG and from what I’ve seen insurance is the vertical with the most industry to IB laterals recently, given the complexity and the state of transformation insurance is undergoing with sponsors. Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 bananamonkey003VP in PE - Other VP in PE - Other
+2 In the AI era, the senior bankers ( MDs ) and PE partners are gonna have the most fantastic job ever. FlyingBoat
+2 lake_michiganYou kill americans, you deserve to die.  You're right. Let's round up the ICE agents killing Americans.  WeatherController
+2 Yes HF is definitely more engaging / feels more like investing since you're not as bogged down by many mindless process workstreams / portco reporting, but honestly from your description it sounds like you have a pretty so Investment Analyst in HF - Other
+2 i have been interviewing for around 2 years now (similarly still at first role out of college, sr analyst/associate interviews) - seems like every process is insanely competitive up and down from MF to small company. bopbopbop
+2 . IB Intern in IB-RX
+2 For reference I’ve made about $175k, $215k, $340k (including A2A bonus), $220k (very painful, stub bonus), $325k over the calendar years.  Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+2 No "additional info" would change my recs (at the risk of sounding harsh your situation is not that unique...have seen it several times before...what you do from here can make a difference) ... Research Analyst in AM - FI
+2 - Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 UBS cares more about what makes them money, weath management. So they reallocate resources from IB to WM. CS merger was absolute failure, every rainmaker MD left to go to other banks. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Do you have LA/SoCal ties prior to going overseas? If not, that's going to be a bigger hurdle than being overseas. Easy coast people sometimes struggle to connect out here, let alone international.  CRE
+2 Congrats on McMaster Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 This is fabulous advice until you're considering the prospect of having 50+ harmonious years of living in accord with the fish, at which point one starts to consider the fish's thoughts and feelings kellycriterion
+2 No new trade war or tariff threat every dayBecause of that, more manufacturing jobs (we have been steadily losing them every month since liberation dayNo picking fights with allies almost ev Soros_
+2 Personally I always send a holiday text. Have received a few from students/interns I worked with in the past and I think it’s a very nice gesture. Analyst 2 in RE - Comm
+2 DL funds will struggle raising new funds and lower performance fee on existing vehicles. Research Analyst in HF - Event
+2 Congrats on UBS! NBTtmoon
+2 Can you help me understand which policies specifically were worse than what Trump is currently doing?  Determined
+2 Right now 0% but not because I don’t get any carry. The promote in all my deals is long gone (wrote it off in my head Q3 2022) :( larry david
+2 taking the LIRR is paradise compared to having to avoid the homeless on the subway Analyst 2 in Private Credit
+2 I don’t actually know for sure. The ex bankers who pivoted to consulting came from either an MBA program or a lack of deal experience was not an issue for them. Associate 2 in CorpFin
+2 This is spot on. Perfectly embodies the type of personalities in PE too - insecure yet at the same time loves smelling their own shit Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 99.9% it is someone too old to be an analyst, too bad to be a PM, and too poor to retire.  Principal in HF - Event
+2 Trump's tariffs are a disaster, complete clown. m_1
+2 as a mid level guy, there's way more 'control' over schedule now than as an analyst or assoc. MnIGuy
+2 You haven’t even been to Prom yet and you’re worried about Ares vs Blue Owl? Get your peener wet first, then think about Private Credit later. VP in PE - LBOs
+2 Because of Trump my phd got killed and I dident move to Cali.  :( Because I did not move I found an amazing girl (wife material)  :)  Thanks Trump!  hyronimus
+2 This post is either an AD or OP is not actually in banking. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 Intern in IB - Gen Analyst 1 in IB - CB
+2 " And the nepo stuff is nonsense" ? You have no idea how familial connections will become important when AI makes intelligence a commodity ( which AI will ). FlyingBoat
+2 I can't imagine ripping 80 hour weeks alongside 23-26 year olds as a 30 year old would be fun, but who knows. Not sure if it matters but odds are high you would be older than the VPs you would report to ... Works at Jones Lang LaSalle
+2 congrats on IU kelley + no you can't, they are recruiting from banks because they have already trained their employees  VP in IB - Cov
+2 exactly what i said in the UBS vs. wells fargo 100+ thread and got a bunch of monkey poop because the wells fargo kids kept shilling for wells fargo VP in PE - LBOs
+2 MQ Software much higher than that. theyre global head of software and services sits in chicago as does a very high profile education focused MD (brown boys up, iykyk). Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+2 Of that list, Carnegie Mellon and Berkeley also have very strong machine learning ecosystems, although I’m not sure how many ML classes students typically take within the financial engineering programs themselves. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 Work life balance generally better than BB teams, with less of a facetime culture (bank dependant). VanillaMan24
+2 Alright guys...looks I struck a chord here. I explored a move to a CLO with an offer and spoke to several professionals who are senior analysts/PM who echo'd some of the views I've shared. VP in PE - Other
+2 Sector agnostic value / operational mid market buyout shop based in Europe Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+2 Appreciate the feedback — probably worth adding more context. miserytigerzfan2022
+2 Rookie start. Personally I cut off both hands to set myself a real challenge. You should see how fast these dogs can hit ALT WVG. Made a couple of interns cry, but I think that’s just my aura Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+2 Yeah, I wish I knew. I agree this admin is not the ideal choice to have launched this conflict, and neither was the prior. WSOBURNER69
+2 Where's the tipping point that constitutes 'cutting off at the source' meaning we need to move troops in, secure infrastructure including the Hormuz, and root out the IRG along with fully decapitating the institutionalized Addinator
+2 You are an idiot Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Currently a BB underwriting associate. I've seen people go to IB, CB, or private credit. Personally, I might try to stick around. The WLB to comp ratio is very good. Outside of the office I train strongman. Associate 1 in IB - CB
+2 Thanks so much. Really appreciate the detailed response — especially the list of programs with direct quant pipelines. juicecake
+2 I will find it impressive if you actually work in IB because it sure can't be easy to find time to work in between the endless spewing of propaganda. Bruvver
+2 I agree with some of what you said here.  Sponsors do at times prefer PC for relationship reasons with the implication being either softer underwrite or relatedly more flexibility during periods of stress. CPDDOUGH
+2 The advantage of LBS is that it’s a London based experience + no visa issue. For BBs visas will not be an issue, for middle market it is an issue.Also LBS seems to have more alumni events in London. guillaume.alexandre
+2 larry davidThe promote in all my deals is long gone (wrote it off in my head Q3 2022) :( CRE
+2 . N/A in PE - LBOs
+2 Congrats on UBS tech optimusprimerate
+2 Similar to LMM PE.  Flood of assets have come into the space resulting in a flood of human capital as it does actually take bodies for both assets (hard to scale simply via dollars). CPDDOUGH
+2 Great culture. Generally hear that juniors stay for an extended period of their careers given the comradery and environment. Associate 1 in RE
+2 who made this  ivanshah
+2 Just send an email reaffirming your interest and thank them, that's really all you can do Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 Many satellite offices are still elite though - GS TMT CHI, JPM Industrials CHI, EVR Chi (all industrials/paper and packaging, but elite); definitely a bit closer between them and top rx shops tho. Prospect in IB - Gen
+2 Your analysis does not seem coherent. Most of your point is around PC making bad risk/reward investments over the past couple years which is true but isn't this correction healthy for the broader market in that case? Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 U/W is assessing risk (business/financial/credit/reputational/etc.), Origination/Coverage is assessing how profitable the deal is going to be for the bank (i.e. TLBandChill
+2 No you can't. Why the fuck would you ask if you can? Are you dense? I say that working in Dubai is immoral and you think you can DM me? Are you an idiot? Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 I had to take a Wonderlic test when I applied for a Point72 internship 5 years ago. Soros_
+2 CLT got it Intern in IB - Gen
+2 Warwick is definitely stronger than the rest, but if your offer is for Politics and International Studies, it doesn’t give you much of an edge; the consensus for London IB is university over degree, though Warwick leans mo Lorderic
+2 As a incoming BB banker (think Citi, BofA, Barclays) from USC, there is a couple things I'd tweak- SA26 placement was around 80-85% for TFA- 281 isn't class that helps prep for IB bulgebracketbest
+2 what a dick move to not give you the 3% lol  RogerTheAlien
+2 I'd assume the DS track carries a similar signal, though I'm less familiar with it. Some people switch from ICME-DS to Stat. Prospect in HF - Macro
+2 Propaganda machine right here. This is a dick measuring power play war that fight Israel’s battle for them and makes Trump feel tough compared to his idols in Putin and Xi Jinping. liquidiot
+2 Group is smaller unfortunately (under 15 juniors in each vertical) so unable to share specific details (mostly on exits, etc.) in public, and the initial post was not super specific  As an overview: hmmyes123
+2 A bunch of b-school friends and I have decided to pivot to banking to ride out this wave. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs