+2 just do M&I 400. Its free and only takes like ~20 hours to get through depending how thorough you are.  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Major doesnt matter all that much whether it’s finance vs other business major. Major in what can get you the highest GPA for the least effort and what you enjoy. pls_touch_grass
+2 yup, that is industry standard XXZOP
+2 360 no scoped that mandate fr XXZOP
+2 This is anecdotal so take it with a grain of salt. Works at USAA
+2 I’d recommend heading to Medellin and banging some big booty latinas Associate 1 in PE - Growth
+2 bro what DingalingMagnet
+2 The interesting part is that this would be one of the first clean public-market tests of a Western frontier AI lab as a standalone business. Ex-consultant in Tech
+2 Skill issue VP in IB - Cov
+2 Honestly, I think they cover the pure basic fundamentals perfectly. I think they miss on explaining some portions like WHY we are doing certain things in the model especially when it comes to their LBO section. reddemon
+2 Too much financial edge damn Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 What makes you think ib isnt also cooked at the jr level? Venturepapi
+2 I thought we wanted efficiencies from AI. Nothing wrong here Xhamster02
+2 Not sure what the FIG team does but SF TMT handled most recent fintech deals / IPOs like the Robinhood IPO, Chime IPO, Affirm IPO, Stripe Series I, Pismo / Visa, Plaid / Visa, Credit Karma / Intuit, Clearwater Analytics / VP in IB - Cov
+2 PWP sucks, can we stop with the shilling? It is honestly getting embarrasing Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 FIG is doing more traditional verticals within FinTech. For the most part, the more interesting or techy companies (your Stripe, Revolut, Robinhood etc) are covered by the TMT group. Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 It's a firm that has generated early success by capitalizing on a few things that tie together in a nice, well-packaged story for LPs: Moonshallow
+2 FTI is LMM IB, A&M is MM I'd say. Mostly help out with RX deals that come about as a result of their flagship restructuring groups. You'd be perceived the same way LMM / MM IB people would be perceived in general. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 He made 9-10 figures. It’s much better and he had time to enjoy his money unlike buddy here. Again most people who do high finance end up working for someone and never enjoying their money. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 From experience, getting internship experience early generally does not hurt your chances. amandalim
+2 Short answer: yes, the Public Revenue Office (PRO) can and likely will call it interest. الرأسمالية
+2 A good trick I found was to listen to DCF podcasts during my sleep (put on loop), especially to really grasp the FCF concepts Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+2 How does this place stack up against KPS, SVP, and Veritas? Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Sounds good. I'm thinking blazer, no tie and dark loafers. Would you recomend suit pants or khaki slacks or does it not really matter?  bananajoe47
+2 I know lakaka is the expert here (he might respond) so just going to share my 2c. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+2 We might have very similar backgrounds. Singaporean here, did 2y of army, did polytechnic (so 1y behind), did NUS for 1 year, before redoing my undergrad in the UK (so 3y, total of 4y spent at undergrad level). olamiemie
+2 What is the second class citizen point and how would it be observable in real life, particularly for a non-senior person? I hear that a lot. Intern in Consulting
+2 Nepo baby alert Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Congrats on Gugg! mulchygatorade
+2 these are all accurate but I think a bit negative. Reality is all 3 are elite shops in the spaces they play in. Also "doing well". Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+2 bananajoe47Sounds good. I'm thinking blazer, no tie and dark loafers. Would you recomend suit pants or khaki slacks or does it not really matter?  Analyst 1 in PE - Growth
+2 Not sure how helpful this is, but here's how the junior IB/AM ecosystem works in Asia: either you land an internship in the industry and convert to a return offer (easy mode), or go through the grad recruiting cycle (hard PeanutButterCookie
+2 Horrible take man. Please Get some help my guy.  nachocheese
+2 KPS, SVP, and Veritas are three of the most desired spots in all of PE, and maybe the most desired for their specific strategy. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+2 Haha nope! liquidiot
+2 Grindr (great place to meet like minded people with same grindset as IB) Intern in IB - Gen
+2 you have a few options. asdf1248
+2 Start with a blank page and focus on formatting without a mouse and as always ALT W V G - no gridlines On the side build out your formatting tables so, number, percentage, and color formatting reddemon
+2 From a levfin perspective he's right Intern in IB - Gen
+2 It will always be easier moving from public markets seat to public markets seat. Do not drink the retarded PE Kool-Aid. PE does not teach you to invest. I don't understand why this is lost on the WSO monkeys. Research Analyst in HF - Other
+2 Overpriced glorified pump and dump whose lead underwriters (GS and Morgan Stanley) are using outrageous assumptions (28T+ TAM? Excuse me?) to try to drive up hype for the retail crowd. nyctooexpensive2
+2 So much for #6.. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Both are cash cow programs. For LSE the undergrad and the MiF, LBS only MFA or MBA, if you go to HEC/ESCP etc. then only MiM/MiF are worth it Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+2 TBC doesn’t care about major (source: I’m in TBC). Regardless, you don’t declare a major until the end of 2nd year. Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 Fair. Kevin25
+2 I think the main thing that'll help you is just to own it. sudokuweekend
+2 It won't be a problem for securing a return full-time offer if that is your main concern, but long-term career prospects are probably not that great. Analyst 3+ in IB - Gen
+2 Second this. Also the HL RuffCo case study is a nice intro if you have no prior knowledge of RX to date.   pik_floyd
+2 Burner account - I have worked across both BCG and Bain in their NY Offices. My partner was at Mck NY.Go with BCG. Better perks, lifestyle/culture and overall coaching experience. jaxomchampion
+2 Yea their co-op stuff is great, but the students getting co-ops at the firms you listed are top of their class. You have to be top of your class at any of the schools OP mentioned to have a slim shot for a role in IB. bigdawg321
+2 Let's put RX aside, the point was more about M&A, a space where EBs and BBs compete directly.  Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 You're still going? The more you defend it, the more you prove my point. No one asked you to justify DCM.  You’re doing that yourself. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Tons of other threads on this. It is not that different from SA recruiting, except that in interviews you will be expected to speak to your deal experience very intelligently, and the bar for technicals will be very high. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Agree, with everything you said. I think hours and schedule get marginally better, but if analyst walking in the door today think hours are going ever regress towards normal (40-ish), they are very wrong. PeRmAnEnTiNtErN
+2 If we break things down into subsector/industry/sector then it's hard to move sectors, easier to move industries and fairly seamless to move subsectors. nutmegger189
+2 I had a very good SM seat, good comp, stable and also really liked the PM and senior analyst above me. r00ldy
+2 Just left LA MM gig so I'm familiar with the scene: Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 That's just false. You go to things. You go do things outside. I still meet plenty of people, younger and older, pre and post covid. It's not easy, it's harder than it used to be, but you're in banking. usernameladiesman217
+2 Tbh idk the answer but I’m laughing my ass off reading the replies so far of dudes being like “just lateral”. I feel like he’s asking “how do I be happy where I am without lateraling to a better bank”. AlexanderHamiltonLover
+2 Would recommend modeling rather than trying to just do repeat questions. Forces you to learn better skills imo  Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 You’re self aware enough to know that this is a retarded way of thinking, but not quite self aware enough to get over it. Figure it out. VP in PE - LBOs
+2 Imagine it was the very first hand of the first level of the Main Event. UTG+2 opens with a raise, folds to high jack who 3-bets. The cutoff then proceeds to 4-bet. Deo et Patriae
+2 Having to pretend to your friends and family in the industry that what you do is hard Incoming Analyst in S&T - Equities
+2 Isn't it only your second day on the internship? jerrypowmoneyprint
+2 pack it up dawg Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 I worked at a similar place. Producers were on a 200k draw and fee split was roughly 50-50 until draw was covered, 60/40 to the producer for the next million in fees and 70/30 to the producer thereafter. leftcoastlenny
+2 Ignore title. My associate years have been worse by an absolute long shot Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 moneybeingmadeI know LPs in his fund.  He charges more than 2/20 Intern in IB-M&A
+2 An old VP I worked for told me his best working hours were 1-3 AM, as "he finally had time to be his most productive" Deal Team Six
+2 take initiative and invite people to stuff - make a plan to grab food, hang at yours, go do an activity or something and get the other interns to pu. sc_30
+2 oof you hurt my feelings. how can I survive if teenagers on WSO don't think my job is prestigious. Kevin25
+2 these comments are actually wild. as a senior banker i get mad when my juniors aren’t using AI for drafts - whatever the document. the issue is the part about misrepresenting the data. B27B
+2 The conservative case in all those investments is that football clubs are scarce and hence the multiple just goes up with the passage of time or someone comes and offers a highe price just to own the club (buying a trophy GS under Blankfein
+2 Very common to backchannel like this. VP in PE - LBOs
+2 Similar situation, but at a larger LMM shop by headcount. Hopefully roles are less rigid at your shop given size, so once you’re staffed, try to play up and take on model work / actual value-add shit. speedball
+2 Personally, I'm at a CVP/EVR and I think highly of the LAZ/PJT/MOE EB guys. Intern in IB-M&A
+2 Analyst 1 in IB-M&Ahot take JPM is overrated have you seen their directors? bintangboss
+2 These are my 2 cents: First priority I think should be reading Investment Banking by Joshua Rosenbaum + Pearl - super helpful + explains every concept you will need to know sc_30
+2 Congrats on UBS!  Intern in IB - Gen
+2 if this is all a scheme for endless optionally with no clear path, why does everyone try to leave banking? similar to ppl becoming a corporate lawyer to clear 7-8 figure pay days one day, why not just stay in banking? Intern in IB-M&A
+2 +1 that group is swarmed with Asian hello kitties Intern in IB - Cov
+2 if you're not gonna have a life, at least find a wife Prospect in IB - Gen
+2 lol the 95% of the content of CIMs are now generated with AI. Can’t imagine not doing that Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Basically an LLM arms race CEO in PropTrad
+2 Ive been waiting for someone to say this. I agree AI is very helpful but “garbage in, garbage out”. The mass shitification in the investing space and quite frankly everywhere is so exhausting. waccAF
+2 How do you see the way out of it? Associate 2 in AM - Other
+2 Having a track record of internships at Norton Antivirus Associate 2 in AM - Other
+2 Let us know what happens here Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 In my experience it has been worse. I went from an RX group to a MF. Both are terrible but PE has been considerably more stressful, less predictable, and more hours overall. Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+2 Dump it all in SOXL  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+2 The Unemployment Chronicles continue Abusement Park
+2 I think you may be missing the forest for the trees here bud Abusement Park
+2 Claudius & Co. The Fool of Finances
+2 I can't tell whether you're saying you did this by accident, as a joke, or on purpose? I don't think any which way is better than the others though  nutmegger189
+2 In that case yes. I interned at a RE credit shops before starting full time reib. Definitely helped. olamiemie
+2 Tell me you work at Qatalyst without telling me IWorkMoreHours
+2 Agree with the above fully. Reaching out to your current employer without your permission is extremely bad practice. cremefraiche
+2 Can’t think of a better place to put 6-10 years in as a banker if you don’t want to be an MD, want to stack cash, and are willing to work for it. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 I know I also sound like an LGP glazer (I kind of am) but why is that necessarily a bad idea? Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 PhantomGhostnobody is reading this. I went to a top undergrad and a top mba and I never even read the case studies Nobody Man