Compilation of "IB/PE is bad" posts

CONTEXT: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ…
***(Read the post linked above to understand why I’ve created this repository)***

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https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-… (Both the post and the top comment are insightful)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-… (Unironically a viable way to vicariously experience what IB might be like, for some)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/venture-cap… (Read through the comments)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/leaving-ib…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/ib-sucks-i…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/warning-do…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/investment…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/confession…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/idgaf-anym…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/anyone-els…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/anyone-els…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/things-you… (read the top comment)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/to-all-con…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-… (A lot of interesting content in this one)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/hedge-fund/… ("Let's face it, IB sounds sexy to people who don't know what it is, but we all know that pre-VP IB work is just running processes")  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-… (read the top comment)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-… (read the top comment)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/off-topic/c…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-… (read the top comment)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-… (9am-6am wtf)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-… (command+F for "14+ hours" and read that thread of comments)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ… (long post but was top post of the week for a while)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ… (look through comments, many talk about PE too)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/success/hap… (really great thread on happiness)  
Legendary IB thread, comment have several different perspectives: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ… (Thread by an ex-APO ASO. Even though it doesn’t paint APO in a negative light, the way this guy thinks is telling of the types of ppl that crush it in this field)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/job-search/…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-… (Reinforces my view that only those who are wired like this make it in the field)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ… (Doesn't explicitly say anything bad about APO but the answers shed light on the type of person that succeeds here. Particularly there is this comment about personality fit: those who work hard, prioritize work first, high horsepower, sharp elbowed, risk averse. Also sheds light on pay. You don't fully receive your carry until ~10 years, and you never actually get the "headline carry". Only ~50% will actually end up being paid out, and almost 100% of that payout needs to be committed to the next fund. The deferral is brutal. The golden handcuffs only get tighter as you become more senior. "I have peers that have been in the industry 10-15 years post-MBA that have not realized any carry.")  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-… (Document following death of BofA associate demands that hours be capped at 100hr/week and that nobody should be required to stay in the office past 1am more than twice a week)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ… (A great balanced take that touches upon both benefits and consequences of going into PE)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/off-topic/i…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/job-search/…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ…  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equ… (solid comments)  
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-…

https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-…
I will do my best to update this page. Feel free to comment with anything I've missed.

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, here is a compilation of posts discussing the negative aspects of working in Investment Banking (IB) and Private Equity (PE):

  1. How Bad is Working Hard in Your 20s?

  2. Very Long Post: Stepping Off the IB Train

  3. Getting Crushed is Paradise

  4. Startup Founder, Now What? Recruitment Advice

  5. MBA Associate Looking to Leave

  6. Do Your Associates Just Not Care?

  7. Leaving IB Soon: Final Rants

  8. IB Sucks, I'm Out

  9. Warning: Do Not Enter IB (Coming from a VP at a BB)

  10. Investment Banking is Broken

  11. Confessions of a Former Second-Year IB Analyst

  12. IDGAF Anymore

  13. Anyone Else Just Want Out of This Shit?

  14. Anyone Else Giving Less and Less Fucks About Their Performance?

  15. Things You Wish You Knew When Starting Out in IB

  16. To All Consultants Considering PE

  17. When Did You Realize IB Was Far From Glamorous?

  18. The Reality of HFs

  19. MS Bonus S

  20. Quit Today

  21. Worse Than IB

  22. Reinventing IB in the Long Term

  23. Chronic Pain

  24. My Hours as a First-Year Associate in PE

  25. IB, High Finance, and Treatment-Resistant Depression

  26. Question for Senior Bankers: Does It Get More or Less Stressful as You Progress?

  27. Would You Redo IB Again?

  28. IB Midlife Crisis at 23: Please Help

  29. MS Menlo is Going to Shit: 9am-6am WTF

  30. Investment Banking Fucking Sucks and I Personally Advise Against It

  31. Venting Trauma Dump Megathread

  32. Didn't See the Light at the End of the Tunnel, Do You?

  33. How to Fix Slacker Reputation: Am I Done?

  34. Please Tell Me I Can Look Forward to PE

  35. Thoughts from a MF PE Associate

  36. You Need to Get Out: Rant, My Experience for 5 Years in IB, Now in a Small PE

  37. The Unspoken Truth About PE Handcuffs

  38. I Don't Want to Do IB Long-Term, But There's Nowhere to Go

  39. Happiness & Success Stories

  40. Life After Investment Banking

  41. Ex-Apollo Associate Q&A

  42. Talented Young People, Stay Away from IB/PE

  43. Are Banking MDs Happy with Their Life?

  44. Apollo Compensation

  45. Serious PE Funds with Good WLB

  46. Ex-Apollo Associate AMA (But I Actually Answer)

  47. Bank of America Juniors Strike to Start Monday, May 6th

  48. My First Year as a Private Equity Associate in Large-Cap Private Equity

  49. I Hate IB

  50. Why Should Gen Z Even Bother with High Finance/Consulting Grind?

  51. Why I'm Considering Leaving Finance: Reflections from an MF Associate

  52. Career Longevity in Banking

  53. I Was Not Ready for MF PE

  54. Does Anyone Like PE?

  55. IB/PE and High Finance Are a Scam (No, Not the Usual Complaints)

  56. Positive PE Experiences

  57. MF PE: Depressed and Burnt Out

  58. Recently Quit, Nothing Lined Up: Story Inside

Feel free to comment with any additional posts that should be included in this compilation.

Sources: IB ANALYST REVIEWS, New WSO Moderation Efforts [Updates Here], 2018 Summer Analyst IB Recruiting Timeline Megathread Page, An Analyst / Associate's Checklist, Hello Old Friends!

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