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23 years old in NY, 2nd year analyst - ~$75k, excluding unrealized stock gains of ~$15k. I was fortunate enough to have parents that paid for my college though.

If you don't mind, can I PM you? I've seen a lot of your posts around here the past few days and I'd like to chat directly.

 

Two friends in Houston / Dallas saved ~$100k by the end of their second year in IB, but those same friends haven't received meaningful bonuses in energy PE both last year and this year (think ~<$10k). Their WBL is much better than mine, but the compensation has really diverged especially this year. 

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Personally know friends who save 40-50% of base and roughly 70% of all in comp. Most of these guys are at the highest paying shops in houston so maybe not the best datapoint but know 2-3 people who have saved 250k+ after their 2 year analyst stint 

 

My base is 75k + bonus (Non NYC) and I am trying to save around 50% of my income. What should be a goal to work towards or how should I try to save 50%?

 

It depends on how you define "save". On your salary, I think it would be tough to save 50% post tax and still keep a standard of living that wont make you feel bad (physically and mentally). But if you aim to max out your 401k ($19.5k) that will move you much closer to your 50% goal and you can do that with pre-tax dollars. 

 

our lives are literally working for capital and then become the capital for which new kids work

 

yeah I’d actually be really curious. I go overboard to save and not overspend when going out, etc. because I feel like being in finance and getting carry or Co invest means that TMV is real and I’m just hurting myself if I don’t take advantage. not opposed to spending stuff but wondering if there are things I could do to enjoy more. I try hard not to hurt QOL by underspending and be miserable but I’ve just started work and have like 10-15k saved at 22 living in t1 city (high tax) as a PE analyst

 

hmm...

  • Taxes: 50k
  • Rent/Apartment Fees: 35k
  • Travel: 10k
  • Toys (carbon road bike, new skis, used car): 10k
  • Furniture: 10k
  • Drinks/Dinners/Girls: ~ $20k?
  • Student Debt: 15k (paid off completely now)

To be honest, I'm not proud of this, but planning to cut down expenses and save my entire 2nd year bonus.. plus my base is bumping to 150k in a month or two in PE which will be nice.

 

Honestly, I'd argue it's been worth it. This is ~$400 / weekend. If you include ubers, dinners, drinks, SoHo house dues, Apollo circle membership, balling out on vacation a few nights in Aspen and Ibiza etc. it's not that hard. I'm not going to be young and single forever and just because we work 90 hours / week doesn't mean we need to be miserable. I plan to start saving soon as my income will double next year, but lifestyle remain more or less the same with fewer large expenses.

 

22 - Wrapping up Year 1 of IB. All of signing bonus went towards establishing my new apartment (down payment, furniture, app fees, etc). 21K saved off of base salary and about 3K saved in Roth account. 21K is invested in low-risk instruments (ex. high yield savings/money market/CDs). Came into the job with a pretty sizable stock portfolio of savings I continue to manage and add money to whenever I can. Waiting for end of year bonus to calculate full EOY savings.

Net worth of assets around 50k, all included. Do not receive any outside financial support, just created an aggressive financial / tax plan before starting the job and stick to it no matter what. No prior debt or loans due to academic scholarship.

 

For sure.

Personal Finance Budget:

I use an Excel template that is set up with two halves divided into annual expenses and annual sources of income. Annualize every single monthly expense you can think of and list those out under expenses, as detailed as possible. For example, you can break it your expenses into the following: rent-related, transportation-related, medical, grocery, personal care, etc. Do not include discretionary (not mandatory) spending. Under income, list your AFTER-TAX income (just easier this way). First half of year as an analyst (June-Dec), you will fall in the lowest taxable bracket (~12%) because only half a year of income. Going forward, you can just check your pay check for the correct full year, after-tax amount. To calculate net income, subtract the total annual expenses from your total annual income. Then, set a savings goal! For example, I set my goal (without bonus) to 20k. If you divide by 12, that is the average amount you have to save each month (ex. ~$1,650). Subtract that annual savings goal from your net income and the remaining balance is your annual "Discretionary Spending" total for going out, big purchases, etc. I took that total, divided by 12, and that was the amount I could freely spend each month.

Calculating my monthly expenses, saving goal, and spending held me so accountable and made it easy to know if I was on-track, or not. Also, you can easily update your projections as the year progresses to factor in unexpecteded expenses that eat into your spending allowance, or require you to update your savings goal.

Investing / Interest:

Each month, I immediately moved the set savings to a high-yield savings account (~2% interest) so that I could build up a comfortable reserve for emergencies or other large expenses (ex. medical, car damage, etc) that compounds interest monthly. Comparable safe investments include linking your savings to money markets or CDs. In addition, (conservative approach, yes) I put about 5% in my Roth account (matched / 100% equities). If you are debating how much to put in savings versus retirement account, I would consider how much outside financial support you have in the case of emergencies and your large short-term expenses.

Any "discretionary spending" money that I do not use, I add to my stock portfolio (blue chip, tech, infra). I take a long-term approach with my stock portfolio and do not attempt to day trade. (Personal stock portfolio v. Roth account?? Again, personal preference on cash liquidity).

PM me if you have questions or want me to help set you up with a financial planning model - it's a bit more detailed than outlined, but those are some high-level points!

 

Nothing wrong with having cash sit in your bank account but you need to determine how much of that cash you'll need in the short-run and how much you can put into retirement. Any kind of IRA is only tax-efficient if you hold you money in there until you're 60.

Additionally, most people working in IB aren't able to directly put money into a Roth IRA because most people in IB earn more than the contribution income limit which is about 140k. However, this can be bypassed through a roth ira 'backdoor' in which you put money into a normal ira which has no income cap and immediately convert it to a roth ira account which also doesn't have any income stipulations.

To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering.
 

Does the backdoor create a lot of issues and extra paperwork? Also it seems like an obvious loophole - I don't get why they don't just let everyone contribute to a Roth IRA.

 

I am originally from China, my parents bought me $ 2 million worth of properties in China with no debt. I am 25 and I just started my career in big 4 audit in Australia. My salary is really low compared to you guys. I really want to get high salary like you guys but don't know how. Some people said I should try the Partner track or the CFO track, but it's takes a long time and they not very high-paying compare to IB and asset management. I am considering to transition to asset management roles but don't know how, can anyone share any insights with me about what I should do?

 

I am not showing off anything and would really appreciate for advices. I am 25 and I just started my career I don't have any full-time working experience prior to this big 4 audit because I spent too much time at uni. My bachelor's degree was in Environmental science obtained in one of a top university in China. I did my master's degree in Accounting at a non-prestigious Uni in Australia and now I am also doing my second master's degree in analytics (I am doing this part time and online, the program is provided by Georgia institute of technology in the US).

I am very hard-working and really want to get into a top-paying role. I'd really appreciate for advices.

 

Easiest way to make the jump to IB or AM would be to get your mba. But since you already have a masters in accounting, not sure more schooling makes sense... Might just rise in the ranks at audit firm and then lateral into industry. If family really dropped that much real estate on you, then probably worth considering getting involved with whatever they’re doing

 

27 - 4 years IB (3 year analyst program A2A)

401K/Inv. Accounts - $100k

High yield savings acct. - $50k (Does not get touched - rainy day fund of 8-10 months rent and living expenses)

Rolex - $9k argue it holds value

 

$100K but it's just sitting there in a checking account. I don't know where to put it so I can at least make some money. I used to work at a BB where all of my accounts are but I'm scared if I invest my money through those accounts, then I will be restricted by what I can invest in. What if they think I am doing something illegal just because I bought some good stock and it went up and they think for some reason I knew that it would go up?

Will update my computer soon and leave Incognito so I will disappear forever. How did I achieve Neanderthal by trolling? Some people are after me so need to close account for safety.
 

In the early days I had very little saved, I was trying to save 20% of my income (really just base), but it was hit or miss (mostly just into 401k). Larger expenses would come up every once in a while and I would end up wanting to take a vacation, etc. even with a budget it was hard to stick to it. I am surprised at how many people here can manage to save so much in high COL areas. I thought I was reasonable my first few years but not even close to what others have posted here.

Probably had about 40k after the first couple years.

Saving started accelerating in my mid/late 20’s, as did income. Started putting away 6 figures annually (and getting high 6/low 7 figure equity and bonuses) and being able to comfortably live off of salary and not touch bonus (except for special occasions...). Equity in firm also started building up.

Now (early 30’s) have enough saved to be happy, much more than I’d ever thought I’d have at this point in my life. Most in equity at firm.

Life is hard to predict and if you are successful (and the world doesn’t go crazy) you will all be fine. The first few years build good habits, but later years really start helping to build wealth.

 

Let’s be real here, there are lots of people on this site flexing a bit. When I was 25 making under $50K in a high COL area I could barely save. Car maintenance, food, rent (in the ghetto), gym, etc all adds up.

Greed is Good!
 

Christ people. Go out and enjoy your damn 20s or whatever fraction of it you get to enjoy. If in 20 years the incremental 100k you saved from age 21-27 means a goddamn thing to you, you’re doing something wrong and I would venture to guess the memories you’ll make enjoying that 100k at that age will be worth a lot more than the actual dollars.

 

hmm, when I think back to when I was 24 turning 25, I had 2 years of IB + nearly 1 year of PE under my belt, and had crossed US$200k in savings + unrealised investment gains. Fast forward a few years and I'm crossing US$600k with the paycheck at the end of this month. Things take off really quickly if you're not married, don't have huge debts, don't have an impulsive spending habit (my New York apartment was NOT fancy to say the least), nothing mooring you down, and a lot of luck on the way (read: family is comfortable, no huge medical bills).

 

I work in strat consulting (Not mbb) but want to leave and considering my options. My aim is to get the highest possible income which will allow me to save a lot:

Which industry/role do you guys recommend? do you think if I were to stay in consulting my salary will increase by a lot. I’m currently finishing my second year

 

As an Associate 1 I had ~300k in liquid net worth + 100k in 401k.

I discovered 2 years into my analyst stint that I did not have the "reinvest dividends" button clicked and I was very angry at myself...

 

22 years old. First year in IB at a no name boutique. 18k in savings, 40k in an 80/20 equity & fixed income portfolio. I spent a ton of money moving in and live pretty expensively. Rent, girlfriend, and nice food take a big bite out of my earnings but wouldn't have it any other way.

 

Just wrapped up my 2nd year analyst, but still waiting to receive my bonus. As of now, about $25K in 401K and $75K in after-tax index funds, plus like $10-15K in cash

 

If you don’t mind me asking, what % of that is home equity?

I'm a second year analyst in Los Angeles, but I want to stay here for the long term. I was thinking if I got married in the next decade and stayed in LA, a two bedroom in a solid area is like a minimum 1.5 million dollars, which seems fucking crazy, but it is what it is I guess.

I'm 24 with 80k, so I feel like I'd be able to make a 30% down payment on something thats 1.5mil when I'm like 31-33, but I fear that would basically be all my money lol

 

That's combined with my wife admittingly. Just saved and invested aggressively. Live below my means. 

 

I had around zero up until 5 years ago since I was paying down student debt and invested the rest in real estate (I lateralled over into as an experience associate in my early 30s).  I'm now over $600k in my mid 30s which isn't great compared to what some people have who started IB in their early 20s but I have two properties, no debt and expect to cross the million mark within two years hopefully.  That's assuming my properties recover in value to what they were pre-pandemic in that window.

 

I don't, I have someone to do that.  The going rate here is 1/2 of one month's rent per year for a property manager.  I hope to add another property soon actually.  I bought mine pre-construction which really helps the yield.  I only had to put 5% down a year for 3 years and then 5% on completion.  So even if the property appreciates a modest 10% over the 3 year period, your return is multiples of that.  However to break even on cash flow for rental properties is pretty tough, it typically has to appreciate quite a bit over the construction period for the rents to cover the mortgage, fees, and tax.

 

27 years old - been in IB since graduated undergrad. A2A promote.

$300K net worth. Paid off $30K of student loans couple yrs after school.

Single and no real expenses except rent. Hope to reach a million by 30 with comp trajectory I am seeing top bucket associate / VP 1, 2’s get. (Realize life happens though).

Not very creative with money. Have it all diversified into ETF’s with robo advisor.

 

$3M of savings (investments / cash) but 2/3 of that is inheritance. You would think it makes me feel rich, but it actually makes me feel quite inferior because it wasn't earned. 

Anyone else have this issue? 

 

Yeah. I guess I’m over it.

In 30 years hopefully it will compound to $20M

 

30, $800k, started with $0 out of university (and with HECS repayment..), so all from my time in banking. This excludes shares in the BB that I may never see vest / may be worthless... First half of career in an international office where I'm from, 2nd half in NYC. Comp day for FY20 will be in a few weeks, while i miss the days of 100% cash, will see what it bumps to...

 

600~800 net assets, mid level VP early thirties

Lower end is equity in RE / stock portfolio at cost, higher end is at market value today, so could hit 1m on higher end if its a good bonus season in few weeks :) 

Prob on lower end for VPs but I lateraled from a lower paying gig to BB, so only fully paid back my BS loan ~3yrs ago. I try to avoid lifestyle creep but by no means am I frugal, I've spent money for good vacations around the world with my SO (think tens of Ks) but these are the best moments you get to keep. 

Assets are spread between several rental properties in my hometown (lower cost), all cash flow neutral but levered to the tits so will have to sit on it for a while, large portfolio of ETFs and some 'play money' in stuff like gold, crypto & some friends startups

 

8mm, early 30s. Fortunate to make MD quite young in a weird specialty that has had massive growth. I made one good lateral move from bb to bb.

Was super cheap until more recently and saved about 80% of after tax, I have invested ok... but until 2020 was largely seeing market-like returns. This year was really good and I bought a lot of long-dated calls in March (a bit too early)

 

How do you guys typically invest your bonuses assuming you get it year-end? I always struggle with the idea of investing it as a lump sum in January, or setting up auto deployments where it invests in equal installments across the year per week or month to DCA in. Thoughts? My bonus hit on 12/31 and given the current market i’m going with the latter. 

 

I have to wait until Jan 31 for my bonus but I then just auto-dump it into my 401k to give myself a boost in maxing out my contributions every year. The max bonus I can contribute is 50%, which stinks because I'd put it all in there if I could. Doing this has allowed me to be done with the max by Feb/March, which is great. I don't know what I'd do if my bonus was at the end of the year. 

 

Thanks mate. Before starting FT, I had ~$10K left from my Summer Analyst gig and ~$7K post-tax signing bonus ($10K pre-tax). From that point on, all my money has come from working FT.

And yes, I do still go out at least once every weekend to go to restaurants / bars / clubs / other recreational activities.

Some things that help me save:

1. I signed my lease during covid when rent was still low. I also got 2 months of free rent.

2. During the week, I expense all my meals on the corporate card since I'm working past 7PM anyway. I order for both dinner and lunch the next day. Free coffee and snacks at work.

3. I'm not in a serious relationship (though I do go on the occasional tinder/bumble date).

 

It really looks like I’m far off… :

24 in few days

Started Analyst 1 this summer

Have maybe £4K of cash that is saved from my offcycle

What worries me is that I save £1k per month and struggle to save more (high rent, fun when I have opportunity to enjoy life, gf), so let’s say £12k a year.

Add to it pension, something like another £10k

So, all in all, I expect to save like £22k a year (bonus not included but I plan to mostly use if to buy gifts for my family) - seems nothing compared to the amounts above.

Ive tried not to worry too much by telling myself that too much effort now would not make a lot of sense given if would possibly earn significantly more in the coming years. Am I wrong?

When I see people here and even my fellow analysts with already £10k+ of cash (+ probably other investments) I really feel that I’m poor.

I cannot save more because I have high expenses, since I live with my gf and she doesn’t have real income. Really affects me even though I know it shouldn’t …

 

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