1/2/17

It's been a slow day at work, so I decided to do something useful and type up this thread with some basic networking tips. I went into my background in detail in my lateraling guide, but basically I went to a non-target for undergrad, then started at a "no-name" boutique, lateraled to a top MM as a second-year analyst, and am now in corporate development.

First, let me give a shameless plug to the WSO networking guide. I got this a few years ago when I was in undergrad, and it was the best $50 I have ever spent. This overview is not meant to replace the WSO guide, so if you're trying to break into IB, I would highly recommend getting the guide. I don't receive a referral commission for this and am just a happy customer.

Note: This overview assumes that interviews start in September and that you're able to have one phone call per banker and then meet them in-person for coffee. If interviews for whatever cycle you are in start at another time or you've unable to meet bankers in-person, adjust accordingly.

So, you're trying to break into IB and have started networking. Great. Want to get me on the phone? Here's how.

The Preparation (April)

Wait, what? I have to PREPARE for networking? Yes, you certainly do. This isn't like walking into a bar and picking up chicks.

The first step is putting together a tracker that you will use to keep track of your networking efforts. You can use Excel, Google Docs, or anything else, but I prefer Excel. You will want to keep track of who you contact, when you contacted them, the stage of networking etc. Now that your tracker is set up, start populating it with the names of banks that you are interested in working at. I would take a broad approach to this. If you list every reputable BB, MM, and EB, you should have 30 to 40 names on there. No, I will not run a CapIQ search for you.

The Search (April)

Great, so now your tracker is in place. Now it's time to find people to network with. If you have not already done so, create a LinkedIn profile (and use a professional picture, not some selfie that you took in the back of a club).

Going bank by bank in your tracker, search through LinkedIn to find bankers who you might reach out to. I would reach out to bankers across the spectrum. Analysts can give you the best insight into what your role might be on a day-to-day basis, but VPs and up are the ones with the real power to get you an interview. Start with alumni and then look for bankers with anything in common with you (e.g. you both went to a non-target). There is nothing wrong with networking with random people. Read that last sentence again. Now read it one more time. If a bank has no alumni from your school at it, just reach out to random bankers. Trust me, there are many out there who are happy to help anyone. For some reason, no one ever thinks of this.

So, now you have a list of banks and several bankers at each bank. They aren't going to be contacting you, so you need to start finding their contact information. Please, for the love of all that is good, do not cold call. I know that someone is going to reply here telling me that cold calling worked for them, but trust me, it's incredibly annoying to be sitting at your desk only to have someone randomly call you. Do not cold call. You can easily find most email address formats on the WSO Company Database. Others can be found by a simple Googling. Not sure if you have the right email address? Try an email address tester, such as MailTester.com.

The Execution (May)

You now have a list of banks and contacts with their email addresses. You're ready to go...almost.

Make sure that whatever email address you use is professional. FirstName.LastName@gmail.com is what I would suggest. You do not need to use your school email. In fact, I would not since Gmail has a much better archiving feature than what most schools use.

Now, start teeing up your emails. I have typed up a few templates in various threads on WSO, so you can search for those, but I would (again) suggest getting the WSO networking guide, which has several templates in it. Please, whatever you do, type up a professional email with correct grammar. English is not my first language, so I can sympathize with others, but please, act as if you care. I'm not your bruh, girlfriend, or twice-removed cousin. Please be professional, but do not call me "Mr." (or "Ms." If I were female). We're both adults, so act like it.

I would suggest reaching out to one person at the bank at a time. So, if your list has 30 banks on it, and you have at least one contact for each bank, you should have 30 emails typed up and saved in Gmail (or whatever you're using). Now that you have your emails ready to go, you can start sending them. I always sent my emails on Tuesdays at 10:00 AM because I figured that people were too busy on Mondays and too busy at 9:00 AM. Unless you're sending emails at 2:00 AM (please don't do that), I actually don't think time or day matters.

One thing that many students ask about is whether or not to include your resume. If you have prior experience, such as an internship, I would. If not, leave the resume off. A resume is a good way to provide context and can increase my chance of responding to you. If I see that you've had two boutique internships or spent a summer at GS, I will be more likely to reply to you because I know that you're serious and have a realistic shot at breaking in. This is not to say that if you're a freshman or just late getting into the game that I won't reply. If that is the case, however, just leave the resume off.

The Wait (May)

So, you just sent out your emails and are eagerly anticipating a response. To your horror, you see that a few of your emails bounce back. Maybe some people left the bank, but haven't updated their LinkedIn, but most likely, you have the wrong email address format. Some banks grandfather employees with longer tenure into new email address formats, so if you're emailing an MD, he/she could very well have an email address format different from the analysts'. Or, the bank throws you a curveball by using a middle initial in its email address format (I'm looking at you, JP freaking Morgan). You may be able to find the banker's real email, but if not, that's fine- just find another contact and move on.

So...you wait...and wait...and wait. When should you follow up? Should you call them? Show up at their office? Whoa, calm down there. You're networking with bankers, not Victoria Secret models. Wait a week (a FULL SEVEN DAYS) and then shoot out a follow up. Make it short and sweet and to the point. If you do not get a response to your follow up, move on. Maybe the banker is busy, maybe the banker just turned in his/her two weeks notice, maybe the banker was arrested for murdering another banker with an ax. There are many more bankers for you to contact. Please learn some social cues :)

The Contact (May)

So, you're about to take a nap instead of going to class (c'mon, we know you do it) when your phone buzzes. A banker replied to your email!

Some bankers might say that they don't have time, might forward your email to HR and CC you, or provide some other non-committal, "don't bother me" type response. That's fine, it's their right. Just move on. Chances are that unless you're exclusively emailing alumni, your response rate will hover around 10%. That's fine. Remember, you're emailing some of the busiest people in the world asking for 15 minutes of their time. And they are strangers who don't know you to boot.

So, anyway, the next step is setting up a time to talk. Please don't reply with something like "I can talk whenever". YOU are the one who contacted ME. Suggest some reasonable times. No, 7:30 AM before your first class is not reasonable. No, I will not get on the phone at 2:00 AM because you think that makes you cool for asking. 7:00 PM is usually when my senior bankers started leaving, so suggest something around then, but do end your email with a "I can be flexible" line.

The Phone Call (May)

So, you finally got me on the phone. Congrats. Don't blow it now.

So, this is going to be just a regular phone call, right? Wrong. Don't take this call on the subway, at Five Guys, or while you're getting lit. Please, have some decency and make me want to help you further. Take the call in a quiet room with good phone reception. If you have poor reception and drop the call, I'll probably understand, but the banker in me will wonder, "Did this kid really not test the connection out before this call?".

So, what now? What do you ask? Well, you would know if you had already gotten the WSO networking guide ;) I would prepare questions with the intent of not using them. That means have some questions thought out, preferably unique ones to my background or bank, but be ready to go with the flow; try to have a conversation instead of raddling off questions. And, please, have some social decency. Don't ask me about Trump, how my bank will handle regulation, why my bank just paid a fee, etc. Also, make sure that your questions cannot be easily answered online. If I take 15 minutes to talk to you and you ask me who my bank's competitors are or what I do in my free time, I won't be happy.

There are two must-ask questions. After you've had a few minutes of conversation, you need to ask for advice. This is code for "get me an interview". Most bankers know this and will give you advice and then finish that with an offer to pass your resume along and/or connect you with other bankers. If they do not offer to connect you with anyone, ASK. Feel free to print this paragraph out and frame it. It is that important.

The whole point of networking is to build a network. The only way to do the effectively is for others to introduce you to their network. Plus, the more people you know at a bank, the more can go to bat for you to get you an interview and the less you are affected if one of these people leaves their bank. Once you've had your conversation, asked for advice, and asked for references, it's time to go. Please don't keep me on the phone for 30+ minutes. My associate is already wondering where I am and why I haven't changed slide 12's header bar from 5, 84, 139 blue to 5, 84, 142 blue. Finish by thanking me for my time and asking me if you can follow up.

Some people tend to ask whether or not you should prepare for this first call by studying technicals or anything. I personally think that it's a complete dick move to ask someone interview questions of any type on a networking call, but you should be prepared because some bankers will. So, read through an interview guide or two and be ready.

As far as emailing referrals go, send them a similar email to the one that you sent the first banker, but mention that that first banker referred you/gave you this second banker's name. If I know that the analyst sitting next to me referred you, I will 100% of the time reply.

Post-Phone Call (May - July)

Hopefully you now have a list of contacts at every bank that you would be interested in working at. Since you took my advice and asked for referrals, you even have multiple contacts per bank, and you've talked to all of them. Now what?

Once you've had a phone call, the next step is setting up some time for coffee. If you live in or close to NY or some other financial hub, this should be easy. Wait a month after your phone call and then email bankers for some time for coffee.

If you go to school somewhere else, I would consider taking a networking trip to NY. This is what I did. I spent a week at a buddy's place in NY (this was before Airbnb, so it's even easier to go now if you don't know anyone in NY) and scheduled three to four bankers for coffee per day. A few bankers cancelled last minute, but other than that, it went well. Please have some respect and show up in business casual. I don't expect you to wear a suit (please don't), but if you show up in anything less, I'll assume you're not serious about the job. Ladies, I apologize, but I am no expert in women's fashion, so I would suggest Googling "female business casual" or something of the like. Please don't show up in a mini-dress (yes, this has happened before).

Ok, so now you're in NY, have several coffee meetings lined up, have some proper clothing with you, and are ready to go. Make sure to bring a notepad and pen with you. You probably won't take notes, but it shows that you're serious. I also might not remember who you are, so bring a few extra copies of your resume (printed on regular paper, not card stock...c'mon) so that I don't have to awkwardly ask what your background is again.

And, when I offer to pay for your coffee, don't play this "no, I'll pay for it" game. Offer to pay for it and then move on once I insist. I'm making six figures. Don't make me an asshole too by letting some broke college kid buy me coffee.

The Ask (August)

Great, so now we've done the networking tango. You sent me a cold email, I replied, we got on the phone, we met for coffee, we both feigned interest in each other. So, now you need to reap what you sowed: ask me for an interview.

Whoa there, buddy. We're still doing the tango, so you can't just straight-up ask me for an interview. Say something like "With recruiting season coming up, I was wondering how I could best position myself". This is usually where a banker will offer to pass along your resume, talk to HR, or even come back with some phone interview times.

The End

So, you've cold emailed bankers, received replies, had phone calls and coffee with the bankers, and even got the bankers to get you interviews. You're done! You've completed networking! Achievement unlocked! Right? Wrong. Networking is not an end-goal, but more of a journey. A network is like a relationship that needs to be maintained. If I helped you get an interview, I put some serious time and effort into you. Don't be rude and just drop off of the face of the Earth. Shoot me an email and update me on how recruiting went, even if you declined an offer from my bank or went to a more prestigious bank. A few months into your job, shoot me an update. Maybe something that I said helped you. Let me know. You get the point. If all you do is use people for their connections and do not try to build real, genuine relationships, you're missing the point. I don't expect a college kid to be able to help me or to repay me for my time, but at least give me the satisfaction of knowing that I helped someone and that I made a difference.

And if you got your job because some banker helped you get an interview, don't be an asshole. When a college kid asks you for help, pay it forward.

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I am sure that I forgot something, so feel free to ask any questions below. I enjoy the anonymity that I have on WSO, so I will have to politely ask that you do not PM me asking me to connect via phone, but again, I am more than happy to answer questions here. Please post them in this thread instead of PMing me them so that others can benefit from the answers.

Mod Note (Andy): Best of 2016, this post ranks #8 for the past year

Comments (72)

11/17/16

Thanks Sil.

Mailtester.com is great.

By the way, you mentioned reaching out to as many people in a bank here and in your lateraling guide. Did you ever get any negative for reaching out two people, with the same role, in the same office?

How is my grammar? Drop me a note with any errors you see!

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11/17/16

I never did, but I also kept it to a minimum. For example, if I tried reaching out to three analysts in BAML's NY office and got no replies, I would then just move on.

11/20/16

I worked in Consulting so the environment is a bit different from banking. Our office is pretty small and me and some other analysts were talking about recruiting when we realized there was a candidate that had spoken to many of us on the phone at different times (for reference our office has about 40 people total). It became an inside joke between us about how ridiculous that was, but at the end of the day it showed how dedicated he was and he ended up getting an offer to be a summer analyst.

So to answer your question, no I don't think reaching out to multiple people in the same role will harm you (as long as you don't make any negative impressions).

3/18/17

Thank you!

11/18/16

Do you think it'd be ok to call the next day or 2 if you already have their card & made a good impression? I mean I'm sure a lot of people here meet bankers or HR people through OCR or Firm events. When networking for internships at no-names I always found it easier to get on the phone since 1) Much faster and 2) More direct/shows initiative.

Ultimately, who can actually push resumes? My guess would be associates & up.

Also, any funny rejection emails? I've gotten unlucky once with a pissed off trader.

11/18/16

I would never call unless told to do so. Professionals, even those outside of IB, are generally busy working and not just sitting around. Calling instead of emailing is like marking an email with high importance: it has a time and place, but most of the time, you're just telling the other person to ignore everything they're doing and focus on you.

EDIT: I'm on my phone and forgot to reply to your other questions, my bad. Anyone can push a resume, as in get it in front of HR for serious consideration, but only a senior banker could realistically walk into HR's office, say "this guy/gal needs an interview", and be completely certain that that candidate would get an interview.

I got a pissed off MD once who rejected me via email because she was mad that I asked for an extension to the offer. She was pretty unprofessional and I ended up getting a better position, but it was still a downer at the time.

11/18/16
Sil:

I got a pissed off MD once who rejected me via email because she was mad that I asked for an extension to the offer. She was pretty unprofessional and I ended up getting a better position, but it was still a downer at the time.

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11/18/16

great post sil, odds just moved in vegas 5/1 to 4/1 http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/nominations-...

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11/18/16

Couple of other things from an associate's perspective don't be awkward and follow up. I'm always impressed by how few people fail to do so

11/18/16

[Redacted] sorry :(

^ is that awkward- its been 9 months
Or should I just send a linkedin request to break the ice?

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11/18/16

It's awkward in the sense that it doesn't give the receiving party any reason to reply. Anyone reading that email is going to go "ok, cool" and move on. My suggestion would be to include a reason for replying. Perhaps you send a similar email asking if they can meet for coffee to catch up. Hope that helps. Good luck.

11/18/16

Good tip, and I completely agree. Sometimes bankers mean to reply, but as they type a response, something urgent comes up and they have to focus on that. Always follow up.

11/18/16

Someone is rising up the ranks in popularity ;)

Sil you are the man, keep it up!

11/18/16

Spelling error in the title is triggering my OCD. Other than that great post.

11/18/16

In all fairness to SIl the g button is very close to the t. I'm glad he's made posts like these because they have helped me tremendously.

11/18/16

Absolutely, it's a top notch post. Just errors in the title section of articles drive me nuts. I hope Sil can change it without too much trouble.

11/18/16

What is spelled incorrectly? Maybe a mod edited it since I posted this.

11/18/16

for a while it was "Want go get on the phone"

11/18/16

Ah, ok. My bad. Thanks to whomever corrected it.

11/18/16

Yeah no problem. Pretty much agree on everything in the thread.

11/18/16

I know it's a very minor point, but what is your opinion on email addresses.

Currently mine is in the format of XYZ123 as my first name is very common (think John, Mike, James) and my last name is also common (Smith, Johnson, all of the Colours).

I'm sure it's not a big deal, but would you recommend trying to get another email address other than xyz123@gmail

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11/18/16

This is gold. Thank for writing this up, I know this will help many many future financiers.

11/18/16

Lol john.doe123@gmail.com ... Probably not gonna get read, sorry champ. Change your name and get a real email address.

11/18/16

This advice, right here, is freakin GOLD. For all you college kids out there looking for a job in finance, pdf this, print this and stick it wherever you can refer to it everyday. About the best and most thoughtful networking post I've seen in a while that actually explains how to do it right vs another war story. Thanks for doing this Sil.

11/18/16

Regarding attaching your resume on the first go, I think it's really important to attach your resume if you have a solid resume from a non-target.

I reached out to a lot of people (non-alumni) and I'm from a non-target, and I think the main reason that a lot of them responded to me was because my resume looked decent. This doesn't necessarily mean having a BB IBD internship (or even a boutique), but decent content with strong formatting and a high GPA should be enough to get you a few extra responses. I highly recommend attaching your resume.

Thanks for the post Sil, really appreciate it.

11/18/16

Fantastic post.

Your point on reaching out and networking with random people cannot be emphasized enough. Some of the most helpful/useful contacts I made during my job search was by doing this.

Most people are happy to help if you ask the right way.

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11/18/16

Nice write-up. I've never been good at networking, so far have always gotten jobs through other means, but it's something I want to get better at

Only thing I'll add though is that while the above is one good blueprint to use as a starting point for a person at one particular stage, there is a lot of variability in the steps I can imagine, even just in that framework. I say this because it's true of any blueprint, for anything, since a perfect blueprint doesn't quite exist given the immense diversity of situations and people. I think the important thing is to be organized and thoughtful, and to understand why something works and why it doesn't, and to keeping experimenting and taking chances without straying too far off course

11/18/16

This is a great post with some great advice that I will without a doubt use! thank you

11/18/16

Sil, this is an amazing overview of the networking process. Thanks so much for writing posts like this!

11/18/16

Great post.

I'm not in IB, but great advice. Reaching out to people now in the RE industry all your points are spot on. I'm getting pretty good returns on my responses and I follow pretty much what you're saying. I love your point about NOT cold calling. Unless you are calling a guy you know has an assistant to answer or if it's a small firm with a receptionist, do not call. Seriously. You're going to have to spend at least 30 secs briefly explaining yourself before even asking a time to chat. At the high level of these guys, it's highly unlikely someone is not currently in the middle of something.

Also to add, I've seen a lot of people on this forum say to not attach resume. At least from my experience (again not in IB but I'm sure similar if they respond or not) the few times I tested to not attach I either did not get a response or they responsed with for me to send over my resume. I don't understand why you wouldn't. Who cares if " they then feel you're just asking for a job". Newsflash. These guys aren't morons. They've been around the block and know the game. Attaching a resume shows background context and what you've been doing.

11/18/16

Thanks for the insight and advice Sil.

I am also having the same background as you had and currently am a sophomore at a non-target. Would you suggest me to start my networking now?

11/19/16

It's never too early to start networking. Having a relationship with your network over the long term is beneficial. Remember the concept of sunk costs from economics class? Despite knowing of this, bankers don't apply it. If a banker has spent many hours helping you out, they are more likely to keep helping you because their thought goes "well, I've already helped this kid so often, so I might as well keep helping". Hopefully that makes sense. Good luck.

11/18/16

This guide is money. +SB'ed you for the amazing advice and the VS model reference from my other post.

A major point often ignored by college kids: always be listening rather than asking questions for the sake of it, or noting down essentially everything on a notepad. I decided to meet with you to have a conversation, not to hold a press conference. Listening is a skill very much lacking in students these days.

Also, try ending the conversation (final question before thanks) in an informal non-career related note, say like common interests or something. It will aid him in remembering your name during follow ups.

11/19/16

@Sil this is more related to the job but just something I thought I should mention. If you somehow get an interview at a bank you don't have contacts do you think it'd be ok to email 2-3 bankers there because you had mentioned something similar in the lateraling guide.

11/19/16

@BillBelichick37, I'm not 100% sure what you mean. If interviews have already started, it's unlikely that anyone, other than a senior banker, can get you an interview. Even then, there's going to have to be a pretty good reason for this. I personally would not ask because the question then becomes: if you really wanted to work at this bank, why didn't you network beforehand or apply online in the specified time period?

11/19/16

like lets say you just applied to an asian bank in HK not really expecting anything from it and then got an email that you have a phone screen next week.

11/19/16

I personally would not. Reaching out now would send the message that you do not care enough about the job to have networked before applying. I'm happy to be corrected if someone else has another opinion.

11/19/16

Fair enough. Thanks again. You got my vote for member of the year.

11/20/16

Sadly, I've done everything mentioned in the article but still ended up with no offer just because I'm a senior going into FT recruiting with a boutique internship, and also happen to be an international student; all firms that sponsor Visa are hyper competitive and no-name boutiques don't sponsor. It's so painful to lose your dream just like that after trying so hard and doing all the right things, but I guess that's fate, and now I'll have to go make up stories on why I want to do sales/marketing/etc...

11/20/16

You do realize the days of getting FT at a bb without an internship are over right? I mean really your only chance of working ft at a MS is to either intern there or an equally impressive BB/EB/etc. CS said during a call that their entire FT pool comes from their interns. Also, I don't get one bit why internationals want to work in NYC so bad because you can get an equally impressive experience in London, Hong Kong, etc.

11/20/16

I mean, the landscape only changed this year because the market went down - many students were still able to get BB FT with a boutique internship last year in offices across America. Going to FT recruiting with only last year as an example I was not as predictive as I can be, and I also overestimated the number of boutiques willing to sponsor, so I admit that my whole recruiting strategy was wrong. It's quite understandable though why internationals would want to work in the U.S. - its regulatory system is much more mature than the emerging markets, and there are less hand-holding with clients in the U.S., providing more learning space on the technical stuff, so an experience in Hong Kong, for example, isn't necessarily to be equally impressive as one in the U.S.

11/22/16

Wow, you've been much more helpful post-transition than I. Making me feel like a slacker....maybe I'll get to it during the holidays. SB's for you and you'll have my vote for member of the year.

I used an excel tracker as well. It is amazing to me how many people scoff at this advice, but if you do not need a spreadsheet to track your networking progress you are not casting a wide enough net. Pure and simple.

11/22/16

Thanks. There's a reason banks and PE shops use DD Excel trackers: they work.

11/22/16

Great post, "@Sil . I remember when I wanted to go down the IB path and was networking from a non-target.

Many things you said were especially true, but what I've held closest is that networking does not suddenly end because you hit your end goal. I've actually become very good friends with a PoC at one of the banks I interviewed. Being able to strike a genuine interest in the person is critical. (I assist with campus sessions for my company now, and I say this being on both sides of the coin). I am far more likely to help someone who I like and want to see succeed than someone I don't.

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11/22/16

I'm in sales. I really appreciate this.

I can't wait to use this to bait and switch my way to pitching my penny stocks to all of Wall Street.

11/22/16

Great post Sil. I'd like to back up what dartzrip said about attaching a resume. When I was networking for both IB and consulting, I had a number of people say the only reason they responded was because I had a good resume. Then again I had stellar grades and some relevant work experience. And then personally for me if somebody doesn't send me their resume the first thing I always ask for is the resume and then preface it with "if it looks good then we'll talk", otherwise I send them some templates and move on.

And yeah, never start with a phone call unless told to do so.

11/22/16

Slightly off topic, but what is your view on networking once you're out of college?

In college it is common (even expected) that reach out to people with the intention of securing a job. Once out in the real world, it seems people are not be as receptive to a random LinkedIn invite or cold email from someone who's not a student.

Would you take the same approach to networking as someone who is already working, but say wants to move on to a different firm/industry somewhere down the line?

11/22/16

I think this is an area where someone more senior to me could offer much better advise.

Networking once you're out of schools seems harder, but it's just more realistic. The networking you do in college is largely focused on you contacting someone and hoping they help you get a job. Once you're outside of school, networking is very much a two-way street. Networking changes from a game of trying to get others to help you to you trying to build a meaningful professional relationship with someone else.

Something that many of my friends do is attend networking events. ACG regularly has cocktail hours in my city. Intralinks and Merrill frequently have happy hours for clients that can act as networking events. I am still trying to figure this out on my own, so again, someone with more years of experience probably knows post-college networking better than I do.

11/23/16

Agreed on it being a two-way street. I think the toughest part is figuring out how you can help someone that might be much more senior than you.

Hadn't thought much about industry networking events. Something definitely worth checking out.

11/23/16

Same boat as you, except with 0 work experience. I talked to a guy for networking, and he mentioned he was looking to relocate. During my job search I found some jobs in the area he was looking at and I bounced a few of them towards him.

May have been annoying, maybe not be he thanked me.

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11/22/16

+SB, this is a great post! I needed most of this advice in college.

11/23/16

Thanks for sharing! Wish I knew this earlier.

11/23/16

This is awesome, but almost borderline creepy IMO. But hey, whatever works...different strokes for different folks.

11/23/16

Hi,

So I completed my superday at BAML NY (Friday) and the recruiter called next week (Monday) saying that my decision would be made in the next 48 hours. It is now Wednesday evening and I haven't got a call back. Should I wait or send an email, and now or after thanksgiving. Mostly it's a rejection but I would still want to get it over with.

11/23/16

Here is how to get me and any of my colleagues on the phone -
just call.

11/30/16

I'm in middle of a large networking campaign.

This is gold.

I filtered linkedin by those who were once with my current employer and then various combinations of Target MBA programs, Firms etc.

Went deeper to find LP's to network with.

Play the long game and add value. You'll get good responses. Let the rest roll off your back.

11/30/16

Great post. The only thing I would add is that despite there being a structured timeline for recruiting don't wait until April to start, the best thing to do is start right now and make developing your network an ongoing process. The reality is that this industry isn't a meritocracy.... so your network =net worth.

11/30/16

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12/2/16

Thank you Sil!

I'm going through the trial-error networking stage. Career adviser at school recommended The 2-hour Job Search by Steve Dalton. It states that you don't need to customize reach-out emails. Generic ones are enough. His point is people who are willing to help would reply as long as it's reasonably polite while those who don't like to help wouldn't reply even if you customize, so why bother spend the time.

What do you think?

12/3/16

I would not spend the time customizing these emails, unless you email two people at the same bank. Then, I would change the email around a bit, but not do much else. Hopefully that helps.

12/4/16

Thanks Sil! Very helpful.

12/15/16

Thank you for this guide Sil!

I am a sophomore at a non-target school. I have been struggling with even getting alumni to respond to my emails at the big banks. I was wondering if winter break is a good time to reach out to Investment Bankers? My career advisor at school said that this is the time of the year bankers go on vacation and I should try to reach out some time in the spring/after a few weeks in January. Thoughts?

12/15/16

Your career advisor is wrong. I don't know many analysts who took a vacation at all during their two years in IB. You really should button-up your email, though, if you are struggling getting even alumni to respond to emails. Your overall response rate will probably hover around 10%, but with alumni, it really should be closer to 90%.

12/15/16

Great post!

1/2/17

If you don't get SB'ed, I don't know who would. Thank you for the great post.

1/3/17

im sure someone will compile all this information and monetize it into an ebook one day

1/3/17

Question: I go to a non-target and there are very few alumni in the industry. I have reached out to many random bankers. I would say about 8 out of 10 don't every reply. Is that normal? I tell myself maybe they're busy or don't go on linkedin that often, so I don't feel bad about it. I'm just curious, could it possible backfire against me? I really want to be in XYZ group at ABC bank, and lets say I reach out to 3 people from that group and only one replied. When they're discussing candidates is it possible for the people who didn't respond to me remember that I reached out to them on linkedin and think that I am annoying?

1/6/17

Please read my original post. I answered your question there.

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You're walking around blind without a cane, pal. A fool and his money are lucky enough to get together in the first place.

Gordon Gekko

1/11/17
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