+1 A lot of people who study maths/sciences eventually get bored and want to switch to a less technical path at the end of their degree or after their first job. pitchdeck
+1 move to GS/MS/JPM if you want a realistic chance mate Pepper Jack
+1 analyst role out of undergrad and got a portion of my team's book as time progressed. Basically pure paper for O&G team although firm has historically done some physicals  in the past. Intern in IB-M&A
+1 Mandatory image when talking about IR Soros_
+1 Interesting to hear. Not once in my arb career have I built anything more advanced than the most basic of LBOs. I spend most of my time on the phone/antitrust work/traveling to “see for myself” etc. PeterEater
+1 Why would you need to send an email from a work email to say hello? Do you not text your friends? Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Deal structuring has tons of resources to learn on places like YouTube.  I will caution you however, the people who generate this content are often times not exactly the sharpest crayon in the box. ioncewenttoschool
+1 Your last comment as to whether this is worthwhile to do is a good question. If you are doing down-the-fairway multifamily acquisitions or development deals, maybe not. DiversifyYoBondsMF
+1 I feel you have a better odds of getting a return offer if your VP catches you jerking off in the bathroom than doing what ever this is. ioncewenttoschool
+1 I agree, I do these types of deals personally.  My point is that the time you spend to get dangerous enough with this stuff may not be well used. ioncewenttoschool
+1 Associate 1 in PE - LBOs Works at The Family Office
+1 How about SMU Alts? Competition probably not that hard to get in since student caliber a bit lower and not as many gunning for IB, but seems to place very well. Ratfarts
+1 From the perspective of someone who works in long only, I wouldn't usually put those companies together as a group, but yeah those are all the "top" places people would want to work in their spaces currently. marketMergerMaddie
+1 MII is buns bro.  no_home_jerome
+1 Eh, I still question the need for periodic full body MRI scans unless it's clinically indicated. Business School in CorpStrat
+1 Consensus from HH’s so far is similar timeline as last year (January) Incoming Analyst in IB - Cov
+1 tbh I would just not say anything and if your friend asks give a watered down version of what happened as to not offend him (i.e. they didn’t seem interested, etc) Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 I'll just say I'm a skeptic of any longevity medicine trends that recommends overconsumption of medical care / tests when there is no clinical indication. Business School in CorpStrat
+1 It’s a more natural transition from IB where everyone is an asshole as well. The email tone is just how people speak, it’s not that that makes them assholes, it’s the way they approach everything at work.  Associate 2 in IB-M&A
+1 I swear for someone who has worked in this industry for 4+ years you sound like a freshman undergrad comparing these places. Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 Odog always coming in with the most insightful comments.  Dev_WanaBe
+1 Maybe RE expanded too hard post covid and now there’s a hangover effect in the industry birdhouse890
+1 They know they are inferior from the day 1 and gatekeep/act like assholes/go full hardo to make themselves feel better. birdhouse890
+1 Partner in RE - Comm odog @digitalimmortality.com
+1 Great perspective Odog Ralph Lauren
+1 I liked the trade floor, and some teams e.g. FX sales and hedging advisory seemed interesting. Equity derivative sales was also a great team. Anonymous Monkey
+1 NGI hub and flow is huge for learning more about natural gas and understanding the general flow. More emphasis on news for traders though and less for bankers tank_monkey
+1 I work in credit so will offer my 2cents. Bond markets are clearly way less efficient. That being said, you really have to be ok with 1-massive downside on names and 2- capped upside. Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 Real estate sucks as a long term career. As someone who lost their job due to restructuring and had to accept a below market role, I'd suggest considering other industries. BuySideIntern
+1 The standard is still IB - PE. Here, in India, Big 4 TAS is an underrated option. thinkingbridge
+1 Yes, clearly HYP have far better finance placement per capita but the data does help when picking between schools in the same tier Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Appreciate you sharing your opinion / insights. No debate, you have very valid points. Business School in CorpStrat
+1 Should I just say it? Realize you're a W2 worker inside a golden cage, making someone else richer, and taking life way too seriously. You're a pawn on someone else's board. Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Wisconsin sleeper akpsiontop
+1 Congrats on UBS! Intern in IB - Gen
+1 Someone please go light up that WSO thread where the founder attempted to refute claims of mismanagement Retired in PE - Other
+1 Materially better. Analyst 1 in IB - Restr
+1 Schools that went down: UC Berkeley, Harvard, BYU, Yale, Western Ivey Schools that went up: Indiana, UChicago, Boston College, Vanderbilt Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Virtually no presence in the US. 5 total current analysts.  terabyte
+1 Not a finance expert here but I’ve been told that an in-person msf is a lot better from a networking perspective if you were to do a msf program. CluelessFinanceDude
+1 Morgan Stanley or Nomura? panda-123.
+1 Morgan Stanley or Nomura? panda-123.
+1 could you tell us which firms you included for MM?  avazhu
+1 loving the recs here, but why the fuck is everything about data centers these days holy fuck Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 just got into a MF (non-acquisitions tho) and I had a sub-3.0 GPA from a non-target. it’s uncommon but possible depending on how intentional you are with your work exp/breaking into certain roles and learning key skills. Analyst 3+ in RE - Other
+1 Suprised nobody's commenting here, this is hugeeee news, they were one of the biggest players in the paint the cabinets and flip game and consistently denied they were in trouble. This is nuts  terra879
+1 Just recruited SA27. I found alumni connections vs non alumni connections to have much less of a difference than people claim here once you actually get them on the phone. Intern in PE - LBOs
+1 thanks babe ❤️ Intern in IB - Cov
+1 Went to similar school and jw what your thoughts are on best connected team that converts on it the most too. SOFRsoGood
+1 Since can’t ask questions, will assume that the intern got hammered at a team happy hour and hurled slurs at the Uber driver. On second thought, what slurs did you use? jerrypowmoneyprint
+1 Let me ask Bill Hwang and get back to you Amazon Prime
+1 They hire for the city they want people. Maybe go to new city then crush and try to transfer  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Just treat this as an opportunity to try new things if you are okay with moving to that city. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Yeah fraud and dishonesty are embedded in what, all Indians? That’s what you’re saying? SOFRsoGood
+1 i trust this guy jacobcrawford
+1 No - the whole point is the Sharpe is lower for SM than MM because of greater tolerance for drawdowns or volatility. laka
+1 Found the Cresa flex office tenant rep guy Associate 1 in RE - Comm
+1 My bank cut our summer analyst class by 30% despite record levels of activity. Hours are still very high, we just work on more things at the same time Intern in IB - Cov
+1 bump Quant in HF - Macro
+1 Anyone know if they’re still sending out rd1’s? curious George 2345
+1 You the same guy who said a year ago you think you’re better qualified than everyone else getting junior year internships just because you have parents in the industry and been into finance since before you could walk? Research Analyst in HF - Other
+1 Based on the most helpful WSO content, not hearing back the same day after a superday doesn't necessarily mean you're out of the running. WSO Monkey Bot
+1 Target level placements the past 2 years, but the PJT Park Hill incident may throw a minor wrench in it. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Also in an environment (which I think is the prevailing sentiment) where deal flow is high but uncertainty is also high I would spend headcount dollars on experienced hires over unproven grads.  Managing Director in IB-M&A
+1 Thanks for checking in bro ur good IWillDieForBanking
+1 Damn. I came here to see what constitutes as ‘fun’ for a convertible bond acardboardmonkey
+1 Yeah, but which one? guyfromct
+1 ioncewenttoschool  Brokers are essentially entrepreneurs; they just have a corporate marketing framework.  Ozymandia
+1 The early years in quant trading are indeed critical, but they are not necessarily deterministic. Based on the most helpful WSO content, here’s what you need to know: WSO Monkey Bot
+1 This is just a fake job for people who want to be in “investment banking” but can’t KageSelly
+1 It’s way easier to trade up than break in, in my experience. An MSF is unlikely to do that much better as most seats are filled via summers. guyfromct
+1 I’d separate “AI replacing analysts” from “AI giving banks an excuse to hire fewer analysts.” The second one is already happening faster than the first. The analyst job is not disappearing tomorrow. Ex-consultant in Tech
+1 Prospect in IB - CovBump Bump aintnowaygng
+1 Yeah not sure what that guy is saying - Kasey is the MD on the ground; had a few coffee chats with him and he was a really nice guy. AVP Quant
+1 Junior lawyers are the first to be automated away. I think our legal spend will prob drop by half this year. WSRaider
+1 Vandy is my #1 program choice, I'm still waiting to hear back from them, depends solely on how much financial aid they give. Intern in IB - Cov
+1 3.7 for MM and 3.9 for MFs. I haven't met anyone that has gotten a top MF offer with lower than a 3.9. But am interested to see if anyone on here has GumboPumpkin
+1  That comp is phenomenal, take that and don’t look back. Accept the offer, then close your laptop and go enjoy your summer. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 that's why we have certified users (see gold star around some usernames)... WallStreetOasis.com
+1 Compliance isn’t sitting there waiting to nuke you for saying hi to friends at other banks. Associate 1 in IB - CB
+1 MSF is only worth it if you have nothing lined up. Boutique then lateral rolo25
+1 Yeah I mean I think it’s days at this point to get to not useless.  Investment Analyst in HF - Other
+1 Any insight on Centerview? c.bands
+1 Going to be January. PE firms still will always heed the words of Jaime DImon and the other senior banking leaders.  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 No I don't actually think they are the same in this day and age. My point is that people have been saying HC tech is the next hot thing for 40 years and Biotech was considered HC tech in the 80s and 90s.   ioncewenttoschool
+1 Dogshit is my guess, JPM + AM + London = triple shafted Trader in AM - Other
+1 The peopel who complain the most about it tend to be the people who saw them selves as having the grit to do it and then just settled.  ioncewenttoschool
+1 Analyst 1 in IB - CovDoes anyone have any info on who the rainmakers are in the group? Managing Director in IB - Cov
+1 Far dearer to me than my treasure,The heiress declared,is my leisure.For then I can screw the whole Harvard crew-They're slow, but that lengthens the pleasure. PaulAllensGlasses
+1 No because although this would work fine for pitches or similar tasks; a bit of a nightmare in actual deal processes for an MD to check through every number. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Pe model is to look away from bad news and mark up fund like vista just did. Can’t sell if things change so only option is to dig in. Managing Director in HF - Other
+1 Answers above capture it well. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Ah yes sponsors is definitely still a top group… you clearly don’t work at DB Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Is it not a top group anymore? My impression is that it's probably the best/one of the best groups to be in.  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 10 liquid + paid off house I come from a semi poor country so i would be like some royalty if i go back Coconut1983
+1 JFC. Pick the better fit for you, the one you felt more comfortable with and happier at. The outcome for your life both personally and professionally will be much more dependent on your confidence and state of mind vs. FleeClashFoe
+1 I would try and downplay your secondaries experience as much as possible (even though it's more akin to public market is some ways), at least with HHs. Associate 3 in PE - Other
+1 got it. what do you think is possible to do after strategy & product at jane street though? haven't seen any exits from there and am curious what my options are if i don't like the role aroadtoaplace
+1 There is still an IB team, above people saying Kasey is MD are wrong - he left in 2019. Team is mostly ex-GS Calgary. Used to be led by Ken Davis who now runs Barclays, not sure who runs it now. Associate 2 in IB - CB
+1 More like 15+ years. These businesses were already on their second or third PE turn in my analyst days! SOFRsoGood