+1 One ultrawide for IBD, two for markets Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+1 . fTheVix
+1 Buddy of mine interviewed there recently. Definitely a stuffier shop for their size and mandates. VP in PE - Growth
+1 I've heard someone else recommend that, but are you concerned of just reaching out to someone on linkedin since they still may be close to people at the place you are interviewing with and report back to them that you are Analyst 2 in PE - Other
+1 As someone who is in one or more of these clubs & recruited with them, I would say chill. It's good that you want to be proactive, but coming across as a sweat is never a good thing. sass123
+1 We build our own models. Sell-side models are literally 500 rows with so many useless line items and impossible to even track. Investment Analyst in HF - EquityHedge
+1 Fantastic advise thanks! seekinthealpha1
+1 I didn't see your comment, but I said the same thing. I've heard others recommend reaching out to people on Linkedin, but I don't get it. Analyst 2 in PE - Other
+1 Hey, Summer Associate in HF - Other
+1 Absolutely - it's easy and shows you're prepared and think outside of the box. IB is all about repetitiveness. wallstreetwarrior1
+1 X smith532
+1 Based on the most helpful WSO content, JPMorgan does offer Off-Cycle positions for Investment Banking roles in London, but these opportunities are typically very limited. WSO Monkey Bot
+1 My two cents is you should worry more about learning than comp. patrick_bateman_
+1 Agree, I work at a top BB in a top group in NYC and they are overrated. Join the group with the people you enjoyed speaking with the most. Culture above all. YesIAmWHO
+1 What are they saying?  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Moe is complete satellite shop list inaccurate Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 A job is just a means to an end. Family first!! Best of luck with your situation Analyst 1 in RE - Comm
+1 How many “in 5-10 year” waffles do we have to endure? AI has been largely available since 2023 and yet no material progress has truly been made. liquidiot
+1 From my past experiences and common knowledge. Yes If you ever have to ask a question like that there is something very likely wrong with you champ. The first step is awareness than acceptance and than fixing it. nachocheese
+1 Since you bring it up, most people and certainly analysts spend 100x the time on the model vs thinking about the right multiple and the chances of re/de-rating. MMPM
+1 Point has hands down worst BD in the business. Always be asking for more details about your team/strategy/pnl/colleagues and never be serious about roles. Analyst 2 in HF - EquityHedge
+1 IYKYK  Director in IB - Cov
+1 Their initial funds sucked but still raised money because BX. Current fund is going to be one of the most successful mf pools ever. Like 5-6x post fees. Have accidentally hit on a bunch of AI tailwinds. CPDDOUGH
+1 Based on the most helpful WSO content, here’s a breakdown of your questions regarding commercial graduate programs at major physical commodity merchants: WSO Monkey Bot
+1 Appraisal experience is highly valued for certain positions. Look into "Valuations Associate" roles at REPE firms. They are akin to portfolio management, which is arguably more coveted than asset management. Associate 1 in RE - Comm
+1 But the technology doesn’t go away just because the bubble might burst. hustle247
+1 I think it is entirely possible that the “ai trade” never makes anyone money but AI remains the most revolutionary technology of our generation. sappy
+1 I’m curious though would something like infra PE be in a similar category since it gives you ability to assess tangible asset prices thoroughly, while relying upon intangibles less to expand the business (brand image, mana Intern in S&T - FI
+1 Thank you for expanding nutmegger189
+1 Are you suggesting the WSO bot is useless and requires me to constantly scroll past large amounts of AI slop on almost every thread? acardboardmonkey
+1 Honestly I’d talk to your current bank and see if you can work something out with them. They may be willing to sponsor you if you’re committed to going back even if it’s in a different geo.  Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 I’m quite openly a (Yuge) supporter of the Trump agenda but this shit and the Iran war are objectively terrible. larry david
+1 Guilty as charged larry david
+1 We've been busy with a mixed bag similar to yours, plus some niche plays that aren't driven by cycles (affordable housing, etc.) and some fee developments. CRESF
+1 Sanest RX Banker Intern in Private Credit
+1 Honestly whenever you feel the timing is right and the role (and pay) fits what you are targeting. Associate 3 in RE - Comm
+1 Okay you're definitely a bot nutmegger189
+1 i mean i guess depends on group but i couldnt see a world where a single analyst cares and maybe at the most hardo shops the mds/vps might  care a little but even then if u produce good work and are pleasant superinv123
+1 Yeah I don’t think sofset is a problem tbh. Her content is ok  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 I’m fascinated if true, did you use a LLM to write your original post? If so why / what’s the main appeal of it because to me this reads as a prime example of the awful ai slop people are complaining about. liquidiot
+1 Alexa play blood theme from Dexter  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 This is exactly right. Interned there, and just about everyone there is from Iowa, went through the program, and they never leave.  CRESF
+1 Better than being known for having bad teeth imo. Invisalign is also a thing... Analyst 1 in PE - Growth
+1 definitely got to be trolling if you’re denying LLM usage in writing your entire post lol liquidiot
+1 anyone? Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+1 It is unfortunate because as you said, the bullpen is an awesome bonding experience with a good group. Rabbit
+1 Maybe, it's a tough market. I just don't realistically see why you'd want to. Your background is clearly really strong in PWM and such, so you'd likely make more over the long term there while also working way less hours. usernameladiesman217
+1 I didn’t wanna be the guy but that is true  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Missing PIPR Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 can be very good jobs. can make high 6 to 7 figures in 30s and not much stress and institutional stability. get to grill HF managers all day. hard job to get and arguably better than 60-70% of LO/HF jobs HFPM15
+1 bot begone Associate 1 in RE - Comm
+1 Anonymous Monkey: Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Genuine question, would anyone pick Baird/Blair/Lincoln over Jefferies just because of the Chicago presence? Engineer in Risk Mnmgt
+1 From my experience, I just started cold applying and getting more looks that way. At the end of the day no one is going to vouch for you from a couple of calls unless you invest heavily into a relationship. Engineer in Risk Mnmgt
+1 How much are uchi/nu/ preferred at these banks? what % of class do you think are at these schools? tg-sphinxpro
+1 I think the main posts at issue are the “I’ve noticed xyz problem… has anyone else? Cardale Jones
+1 +1 SB wallstrett
+1 Generally little difference if you’re at a top firm, what matters a lot is your actual deal exp and direct involvement, which obviously varies by group within your firm so yea it matters to a certain extent but not for the Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+1 Prob Asian Bwc shit  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 So I'll speak a bit from an American perspective. GPA thresholds, I've seen usually the bar set at like 3.0 for the ABCD houses, but my guess is the unspoken bar is 3.5, so get that up. Substack_Guy
+1 What other JPM groups are in Chicago? What are they like Assistant in Acct - Audit
+1 yes you can, had a very similar path. unfortunately two things to consider - 1) make sure you’re largely tapped in with top clubs and OCR. especially because your bio classes and friends will be far from finance circles. Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Is SA for CHI really starting that soon? I am a little naive to the timeline. monoloco1
+1 Look into MTS Health Partners marlin_pardon2
+1 Building football fields is a meticulous process, and based on the most helpful WSO content, here's how it's typically approached: Setup Options: WSO Monkey Bot
+1 RBC mining is a bucket shop. Paradigm does more 😂 SniffinPanties
+1 Did the same, transferred into top SoCal school working at MM shop in NYC. PM if you want to talk Uglydataroom
+1 They'll host an information session in the coming fall semester. Just attend that. But if this director is involved in the recruiting process for IB, he'll probably know aswell.  Sterndegen
+1 Check out Glassdoor for comp. Or ask LLMs like Claude, GPT, Octum. johnstamosky
+1 I don’t get this thinking. It is literally the founders company. If it’s not a public company, the folks who founded it can do whatever they want. No one deserves more carry. No one deserves a way up. pudding
+1 Aren’t u tired of promoting this rubbish? melwhatup
+1 Yes you turn them in and the Barclays people put it on their desks to make it seem like they actually have deals Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+1 Hi OP. Associate 2 in HF - Other
+1 I call this NOT having “skill set leverage.”  Work at a company surrounded by non-high finance folks.  Be the only one, even better.  odog @digitalimmortality.com
+1 You go to Cornell which is one of the best schools dw you’ll place  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Agree with this! essec is possible with a non typical background. Otherwise OP should look at semi target programs like accounting & finance at target schools  Intern in Acct - Audit
+1 Join an ag company. Cargill will have you trading trucks of soybeans in 6 months. Up to you from there to turn that into a prop trading career. If speed is truly what you're optimizing for then ag is the path.  lake_michigan
+1 Throw on a belt with them, I hear they have the tendency to drop-down Perpetually_Unlucky
+1 Proof? Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 How much do their mid levels / below MD make? 300k for vp/ 400k for director? Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+1 Hey thanks much. Acrobat
+1 I took a slightly roundabout way (IB -> PE -> IB) but I find IB ASO to be pretty awesome. Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+1 The pay isn’t nearly that high I think. Unless you’re high up and have decades of experience at a very large endowment You can look up their pay as it’s usually disclosed. investor45
+1 bump 2trim
+1 Low quality ad from law quality course, don't take it  nocarryinpe
+1 The only people on planet earth who would try to equate a UF degree with a Cornell degree are UF grads.  Flush the idea, severely chastise yourself for such a momemtary lapse in judgement and get the Cornell degree. CesarChimp
+1 JAI HIND YeeHund0
+1 cant be worse at basic math than the humanities majors right? Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+1 White collar jail NewIndustryHorizon
+1 Be a legend bro God's Sanest Cokehead
+1 They might be being bitches and trying to ice you because they want to get a return offer instead of you. Says more about them than about you. Just be yourself, get the return offer and then you’re chilling.  Intern in IB - Gen
+1 Multi is just not a good product type right now and won’t be for a while in most markets  The risk adjusted returns make no sense Rick Kane
+1 AI slop begone, you learn how to do a basic bar chart on day 1 of training. Pls find a better idea liquidiot
+1 Pokemon Master IsItREPE
+1 Associate 3 in Investor Relations at a US Credit Fund - made £245k last year working 9-6 Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+1 jpm ldn ibd does not do OC Intern in IB-M&A
+1 Step 1: Be socialable aka can you hold a conversation without freaking out. Step 2: Talk to as much EXEC as possible so they remember your name and hope that you did step 1 right Prospect in Research - FI
+1 A close friend in Boston worked here and I have heard terrible stories. He ended up leaving after one year  libret123
+1 No IBD OC in London. They do OCs in regional offices Acinas
+1 You raise a genuinely important point, and honestly, this kind of skepticism deserves a thoughtful response. Let's unpack it. Nurse Rahma Dikhinmabhatt