+1 It feels like the VP position has drifted to be more junior than it was 10 years ago, as Associate quality has degraded, the top has gotten more full, and people refuse to leave the industry. Prospect in PE - LBOs
+1 I honestly think a lot of these convos overestimate risk adjusted quality of other careers and underestimate median in HF. notsospecialsituation
+1 Still same answer - to clarify when I say juniors I mean sophomores who just secured their offers and will begin their junior summers this fall. Summer Associate in IB - Gen
+1 lmao BuyoutBroski
+1 try emailing qcomm Intern in HF - Other
+1 Well, you answered the question yourself. The people gunning for it the hardest got their return offers, and are removed from the pool. usernameladiesman217
+1 DW they're saving a secret spot for you usernameladiesman217
+1 I'm at an EB and sure, you might get more reps (though not sure if you get more than at some top BB group like GS TMT/FIG, MS M&A/Menlo/M&C, JPM M&A/HC) but that's because most of the EBs are chasing everything Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Agree w this take. No longer a great path out of undergrad, AI gonna cook ts  Analyst 1 in IB - Restr
+1 There is so much bullshit people say on here when comparing Canadian schools. Get a LinkedIn premium free Trial and see placements for yourself. Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 I’m not trying to insult you if you actually do TAS, but idk why your so persistent on a big 4 career bro - they give offers to anyone who can walk and breathe (I did 2 Big 4 internships in my undergrad). rolo25
+1 seems like your sole issue was lack of prep given the large amount of first rounds you were able to secure Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 GS, Centerview, and BofA Intern in IB - Gen
+1 Quality of work increases, number of errors and re-drafts decrease, clients don't see timelines being blown up or missed as often therefore preventing dilution of believablilty of the MD's promises, quality of life increas QuestionableExpenses
+1 Trademark of an MD struggling for business. Book size / timing constraints are often inversely correlated to how well regarded the MD is and how strong his/her deal pipeline is.  VP in IB - Cov
+1 Bump Rajim
+1 Yeah you can easily find CRE jobs with good WLB, its kind of the the biggest perk of the industry IMO. NA in RE - Other
+1 Yes - more difficult to get promoted with longer timelines as well. In the past, 3-4 years as ASO/Sr ASO was common before a VP promote, whereas now senior associates can be as old as mid-thirties. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 This actually makes sense, so an MD hoping to make a name for himself will do this as an unintentional side effect of trying to provide value vs. QuestionableExpenses
+1 MS Menlo and not really close. PJT m&a has been struggling Any 2 IB - Cov.
+1 i mean dude if you want to go to a program full of brampton goons & markham chingalings then be my guest mate Intern in IB - DCM
+1 Go to business brokerage/search fund and leverage that experience to a larger bank Erving_Fisher
+1 Exited MM M&A to strategy at a high growth CPG and I love it. Strategic finance roles seem to open up when a company first gets institutional capital to assist with make the business more official. ImagineSisyphusHappy
+1 Watch Severance and perfect your performance of that particular form of on-the-clock-lobotomy and you’ll be just fine. You can stay interesting if you try liquidiot
+1 WLB also varies. I landed a Director role making $230k with a ton of WLB, but I imagine the $300k+ outliers are highly visible and face a lot of stakeholder scrutiny to deliver results. Director in CorpFin
+1 Can PF bankers move to “traditional” advisory roles. With that in mind is it limited to energy/ infra or coukd you move to unrelated sectors? burneraccount6
+1 short answer: no Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Associate 3 in PE - LBOs NAME_REF
+1 Knew a guy started in econ didn’t get into any of the clubs, switched his major to math, still got EB offer MOE / LAZ / EVR. GAAPIsASocialConstruct
+1 Who did SPD? Intern in ER
+1 i assumed a lot of FT recruiting was people from lower tier IBs who got their return offers but want to move to a better IB. Thats where the best of the best are competing against each other. Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 Del. max.lang
+1 My favorite associate who oversaw my analyst years is now a MD at Stockbridge.   odog @digitalimmortality.com
+1 Stockbridge is a massive institutional platform so expect a more structured and stable environment. It is great if you want to focus on large scale industrial or residential deals where everything follows a set process. dean787
+1 Ngl mate... if you've not been told this by now, you should be contacting HR... nutmegger189
+1 The "best" office chair really depends on your budget, body type, and how many hours you spend sitting each day. curranahuja
+1 I think it's still a thing, just not as straightforward as it used to be. anaisss_
+1 Structuring these roll-ups usually comes down to setting up a clean holding company, especially if dealing with cross-border funding or international partners. dean787
+1 An IB on Paper, a PR Marketing firm in practice Managing Director in IB - Gen
+1 Intern in IB-M&A FailedInFinance
+1 Hey I just updated my comment, I was in BS lending not REIB. Associate 3 in RE - Comm
+1 Surprisingly, traffic on this post from 5 years ago has picked up recently.  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Imo nothing wrong with lateraling to a better for better deal flow or CVP level C-Suite exposute but on a real note it seems like ur just doing IB for the prestige and the title. Intern in IB-M&A
+1 Did anyone else get the virtual interview? bdhxhhdhd
+1 can you write about your experiences? itswayeasy
+1 Not that it needs confirmation, but the mid 7- pushing 8 figure pay days for brokers when switching firms or being retained is true and is something I had no idea about until moving into brokerage. Jabaraking2626
+1 they do mostly FoF, which doesn't rank high in terms of prestige to me ...  GS under Blankfein
+1 Thanks for the reply, this is helpful!Are these in order of what your personal lateral preferences would be? If so, could you give me a bit of color on why? Manager in RE - Other
+1 from the sounds of it everyone will be a former ubs banker soon once they close up shop. steroidmonkey
+1 Pretty sure this is AI slop,You can ask anybody who actually works in IB and they'll tell you that in no way Schulich or Rotman is in the same tier as Queen's or Ivey, or even Waterloo Intern in IB-M&A
+1 Thanks for the honest take, genuinely appreciate it. Investment Analyst in AM - Other
+1 Aligned, was also going to suggest REPE which seems like a natural transition.  SaaSChimp
+1 First of all, it's not. It'd be FAR more concise and sound less like the ramblings of a lunatic if it was. But I don't fk with AI when I choose to voluntarily write on a forum like this. FinnesseGod
+1 If I were your age I would apply to every company in this list, with a preference on the non reits. larrysellers
+1 Good point - I may be over indexing on the 'optimism' scale this week!  Addinator
+1 Can you comment more on the different exits Analyst 1 in HF - Macro
+1 front office  financialrepublic
+1 Okay boomer. jl12
+1 "...i have tens of friends outside of IB who make triple what I make hourly doing things like sales, startups, wealth management even accounting they make more hourly." jl12
+1 100% this trade will be frontrun, I'm assuming IPO allocation price as a pivotal input for this trade's execution. Intern in PE - LBOs
+1 Need an update ASAP on the compliance meeting… DealFlowDan
+1 Have a few rx cases / guides, feel free to pm vcp132
+1 data center spending go brr Intern in IB-M&A
+1 “PE exit lined up” bro your solution to escaping a burning building is by jumping into another burning building Shelly1
+1 Yeah I mean just from recent experience of the last 2-3 months of the job search, I found it much easier than I expected to recruit for FI Analyst roles at a wide variety of shops, large and small alike, with smal marketMergerMaddie
+1 I worked in that team. Intern in IB - Cov
+1 Not in process, but know two kids who have a R2 soon. Process is similar to other pods like Point and there's a take home case study  Analyst 1 in IB - Restr
+1 I’d advise against this because nine out of ten times, students do not have legitimate deal experience, and it can make you look like a snob. rothschild44
+1 B/c regardless of how moronic NIMBYism can be at times, I don't think the federal govt should be coming in and overruling the will of a locality in which these projects [and their externalities] will exist. jmr206
+1 Absolutely would help, but would recommend going to a top school for brand name if you can afford it - purely to get your resume through the screeners Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 14k a mo and 10k signing bonus is crazy - might reneg on LMM IB to pursue this Intern in IB - PubFin
+1 6k wtf Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 Partners are miserable hardos because they couldn’t succeed an established platform they’re trying their best to save their careers by closing deals at a mid franchise Analyst 3+ in IB-M&A
+1 Series 7 Guru is also very good, I used his videos to listen to when getting ready in the morning or winding down. Intern in IB - Gen
+1 How’s Georgetown? curious George 2345
+1 I bought a new Camry when I moved to a tier 2 city Think I paid around $650/mo. (Financed it at 2.49% interest) Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Had some exposure to CC Capital way back in my IBD M&A days when they were quietly raising a SPAC for D&B deal. My MD visited the office and told me how baller it was. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Thanks this is helpful. Teller in PropTrad
+1 1000% yes, can move to a debt fund with little trouble. Even easier if you are on the repo / debt funds team. Associate 3 in RE - Comm
+1 It's a community college in boston. reddemon
+1 I left before but I heard from my former colleagues that Numis is atrocious. Low quality people across the board and they are not integrated with the DB EMEA teams. It is a very different experience Intern in IB - Cov
+1 Take Zoloft. I did for ten years to survive a brutal feedback culture (not PE but psychologically worse). Keeps the tears at bay. Downside is it makes you a little slower. GrownAssGirlCap
+1 Former emo at a top BB here - it’s tough the first year or two in undergrad, but you can develop enough self confidence to blend these two aspects of your personality. mara20
+1 It’s not easy to make it to a MF but in CRE everyone does the same stuff. Its secured lending, the MFs can just do more scale. There are some smaller groups that lend on super hairy deals. Associate 3 in RE - Comm
+1 phantom ghost at hbs with the fellow 24 year olds ILOVEBANANAS123
+1 Get your 'close connections' to pass your resume to the PMs this time instead of the traders Analyst 1 in AM - FI
+1 Technicals to practice: Practice saying this out loud:“Daddy, can I work at your firm this summer?” Congrats you’ve now landed the role   Analyst 1 in HF - EquityHedge
+1 Whinny little bitch Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+1 Essec is fine. If you can get into HEC or ESCP then go for those obviously. Warwick is not good for masters.  Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+1 It’s situation dependent and often depends on whether the case study is remote or as part of a superday. SaaSChimp
+1 My entire office is male across 25 analysts RE_Private_Egg_Witty
+1 I wouldn’t frame it as GS “poaching” Cayne. Cayne hadn’t worked at Q since Jan 2023 (look at his LinkedIn page). gru_from_despicable_me
+1 Thank you for the response analyst steroidmonkey
+1 Well said. bestman222
+1 I mean it is expected for a firm thats very lean and small to slowdown in deal flow. bestman222
+1 Shit will get better I hope. bestman222
+1 Get a Camry or civic bestman222
+1 Diary of wimpy kid works. bestman222
+1 Please Fix thanks. bestman222
+1 Agreed, but I have associate and VP friends literally building CIM's cos there's almost no analysts - maybe that's normal but just seems crazy to me. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A