+1 Imo they're essentially the same list, unless you're specifically going for quant roles, in which case I think schools like MIT, Cal Tech, and Princeton are your best shot, but those are targets(besides Cal tech) for IB as Substack_Guy
+1 . Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 Does anybody have insight on their SF healthcare team? I.e how do they divide work between the offices, group culture, exits etc? Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 This is a common question and the answer is entirely unsatisfying and unhelpful. hfanalyst__
+1 To answer your question, I’m at an UMM and have a couple coworkers here from William Blair, which is a decent boutique but certainly not “prestigious” compared to EB/BBs.  Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 All of the carry vests immediately in 1 year? I would just stick it out if that’s the case. That plus your cash comp should give you a meaningfully higher net worth. Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+1 UBS is 1000% not worth it - you are getting scammed out of two years of your life with absolutely nothing to show for it on the other side. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Crazy how ppl managing a bucees in the middle of  nowhere texas probably have a higher post tax income. Intern in IB - Gen
+1 Mine was 7-8 interviews including a ‘super day’ + a technical. Most questions were about my background and deal experience. Technical was easy to medium but just straight questions no case monkeyanalyst3
+1 I think it added to my “cool story” and in a sea of cookie cutter applicants, it’s an edge. Think they also respected my conviction in leaving something lucrative for what I wanted. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Interested in this too Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+1 🧢  VP in IB - Gen
+1 Will emphasize the physician attrition point. yieldhog69
+1 I don't know what GRE score is equivalent to GMAT, but yes, they really do consider a strong GRE the same as a strong GMAT. QE_Infinity
+1 Congrats buddy - u were like 1 out of 500 that got paid decent. and dont lie, jpm and citi did not pay worse. Also, enjoy your cliff vesting RSUs. Associate 2 in CorpDev
+1 Echoing everyone else, if this $1M is more likely to happen than not you should absolutely stick with it. VP in PE - LBOs
+1 Not sure if its a 'add-back' but have seen a PF adjustment for acquisitions that will happen in the next 24 months as an adjustment. VP in PE - LBOs
+1 the tool has to be designed as reverese engineered . What is the prblem and what would be the ideal solution, then build with agentic and other tools from there. Hedi Mesme
+1 PJT Park Hill is a total hidden gem in an industry filled with zero WLB and constant stress. Great people and great pay. Still will be busy but get to do cool work. Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+1 This is very insightful. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 alot of the bank's top industrials bankers did exactly that and went to MMs since they got paid like shit here. Works at Goldman Sachs
+1 Not sure about S&T, but here are a few stats: Incoming Analyst in IB - Restr
+1 Whether you stay in banking until MD or not… if you plan on staying VP/D years staying at BofA is moral failing. RBOB_squarepants
+1 Exactly this. Worst part of the job IMO Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 Thank you for your response, I currently am on the waitlist for Kelley. I was thinking it would pretty easy to get into Kelley even if I don't get direct admit, but your suggesting otherwise. SoCalTrader
+1 I don't think I'm going to be trying for quant roles, probably derivates trading or something like that. I wonder if location of the school matters more for Sales and Trade because of market open. SoCalTrader
+1 have been doing really bad in superdays and haven't converted as technicals have been hard and behaviorals haven't been that smooth... anyone have tips or recs? I seem to be doing fine r1 Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 BofA leadership is in trouble with investors over low returns and profitability. Moynihan's time is nearing its end at the bank. gelato_cuspids1d
+1 No. It is women (mostly white), black / Hispanic / Native men, and LGBTQ.  Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 I went through the Membership Anywhere page on private clubs and while the digital membership card approach for access control, events, and member communication looks well thought out, I’m skeptical that technology really adhyansingh
+1 how dyk this s1758
+1 The things you are describing happened within the last week. Nobody could possibly have an answer to any of these questions Analyst 2 in PE - LBOs
+1 Don’t disagree w above at MD level - but not sure if it applies to associate / VP level. Teller in IB - Cov
+1 If the groups are different, pick the stronger group over the bigger name. In IB, deal reps and team culture will matter more than the logo when you recruit later. sophiasmith1
+1 I can actually second this. My most recent internship has been in private credit however I also have very strong internships in PE and public equities. Intern in Private Credit
+1 that was their equity options electronic MM desk abob
+1 So many deleted comments, I read them earlier and they were all negative about the culture and performance... is this public relations in action Works at Bain & Company
+1 Well, UC Berkley to Cornell is not exactly an apples-to-apples- comparison lol. I mean both are great schools but we're talking about Cornell here.  Substack_Guy
+1 Hard to lateral. For every 20 applications there are probably 1-2 spots out there right now...so you are forced to stay or leave with nothing lined up (tough in this market). Leverage Hero
+1 Depends what you're building.  I would also argue that in some ways development functions a little like a watered down version of VC. Ozymandia
+1 To add don't think Toronto banks will be increasing analyst classes based off this alone, as it doesn't effect their revenue Intern in IB-M&A
+1 You don't need me to tell you this... but "they" (ie: executives) don't care. If there's an efficiency ratio to (potentially) be improved - they will take it. Short-term thinking.  MidasMulligan
+1 Relo / sign on is where you'll likely be able to get them to move. NuclearPenguins
+1 If you do place into LF, UBS. If you don’t place into LF, TD. But, placing into LF at UBS is hard, as it’s the best group and everyone wants it. On a risk-adjusted basis, TD might be better. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 IMO targeting specific family offices isn't going to get you that far - typically really ad-hoc hiring and much smaller teams, and firms may have really different investment models (allocator role, directs, both, publics v NuclearPenguins
+1 ive heard Ind. is a good place to be from someone who works there. not sure if u get paid tho Broker in IB - Cov
+1 You should be able to lateral from these groups to a strong BB which is miles better for career banking. Path to MD at JEF is much harder given how much they like to poach MDs rather than homegrown. Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+1 There is generally a lack of good associate hires due to not many associates being available for hire. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Appreciate the help. I'm an incoming first year coming off the generalist internship, so truthfully I've only spent a couple weeks in each group. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Pretty sure it is prospective-monkey-555
+1 I don't think you should worry about burnout. I think it's more don't have your tech prep >>> your networking to the point that you'll be prepped but it'll be useless since you're not getting interviews. Smoke
+1 Probably one of the least motivated places ever. lucien_de_montclair
+1 I'm from a semi target and thought the same thing, but this week I got  chats turned to referrals from RBC and GS which both started process months ago (for RBC they opened in Nov) blueberry_muffin123
+1 Sir, your hours are LOW. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 House hacking, BRRR, and living in your flips are strategies to do your own deals and also mitigate risk. Another way to mitigate risk is if you can continue working at your W2 while pursuing real estate on the side Fred Fredburger
+1 Isn't a group needing lateral analysts generally going to be a signal about people quitting early aka some tough culture? Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 This thread seems overwhelmingly focused on the IB side which obviously has its issues as plenty have noted. What about other parts of the firm? [email protected]
+1 Tower Arch is one, but they are strictly 2-and-out. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+1 Would speak to the equity sales guys at your bank. that's the easiest way to move over by the way... Associate 2 in ER
+1 Was at evercore recently and a colleague moved over from PFG - very frequent 2am-ers, quite a few 4am+. The craziest part is the email traffic they have - would say 4-5x compared to standard M&A. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 lmao there was an identical thread like 6 months ago. There is not going to be another payraise till 2029/30 at the least, you are right in that. anonf0fty
+1 is that what happened in 20/21 and before that? not enough talend and way too many seats? though both were linked to super amazing years for IBs and talent retention (loss of guys to PE)? Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 They have a really good culture from what I've heard because they're a smaller firm and care about their employees. ninja1287456
+1 Interned at a lower BB last summer and I wish i had a 55 hour work week. Average is 70+ minimum assuming ur not the worst analyst in ur group Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 ur not alone Aweco0429
+1 Not alone. bronzesciaga
+1 A week I believe locals
+1 My base is 70k. Not PWP - not sure if they actually are setting up a PD team or not. Seniors seemed great in my interviews! I chose this role because of the culture I noticed. Won't comment what firm. stayfrosty1337
+1 I first made sure I had $20k in my savings account before I started attacking the loans. Apart from the 6% 401k contributions I'm making, I'm not doing any other investing. Fast and Fiduciary
+1 Ok mr.x Either way - 9/10pm seems too optimistic. If that's the case, expect bonus to be 30%. 40% MAX in a very good year. wherebanana
+1 jerking off to this comment rn Prospect in IB - Cov
+1 Considering my non target is starting to get interviews might want to follow up with your connects Intern in IB - Cov
+1 Update as of 01/27/26. Centerview is providing the comps for analysts, but refusing to provide comps for KS's analyst class who at this point have been promoted to Associates. Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+1 Analyst 2 in IB - Gen gladtobeout
+1 We run a lot later, process should start to kick off in the next few weeks  Associate 2 in IB-M&A
+1 Can't speak for 20/21 wasn't around then but there is two main factors generally1) CoL. Can an Analyst live a decent life on 70k base in London Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 There should be signs showing up in the numbers of things getting worse. Revenue missing expectations, margins degrading, FCF conversion getting worse, etc. hfanalyst__
+1 Anyone willing to share what MMs got? Curious if there was a range or just set number for each level. Associate 3 in IB - Cov
+1 That’s rough buddy… :( sorry to hear Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Ny wso warrior
+1 Sounds like ur friends are bottom bucket Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 What I don’t understand is why you’re restricting yourself to balance sheet sectors, when you’re making the bigger jump from private to public equities. highlow123
+1 bump stlstep
+1 Has anyone heard back from the Classics SPD today? wsouser58129
+1 Just trying to get into Ivy and equivalents, major in Applied Math / Statistics and take some relevant CS courses. Prospect in HF - Macro
+1 EBNYC VP2>VP3 $750K all-in Associate 3 in IB - Gen
+1 Highly recommend sand491
+1 I do see a good chunk of asian women ngl but I think it's just because they're a woman. IMO dei is primarily : CopingApe
+1 Won’t disagree. You got all the subgroups covered.  Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Maybe a dumb question but based on what you all are discussing wouldn’t all the profit (promote and fees) flow down into the opco? patrick_bateman_
+1 I have 3.84. Should be high enough i think  idk.123
+1 Yes, this is the way. Build the network and research companies  hfanalyst__
+1 Not at GS, but if this is in NYC it's not too unusual. There's a somewhat new background check law that makes the process insanely long. Have they asked you for any background check stuff? Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+1 I don’t think they are usually press released. I’d ask issuers acardboardmonkey
+1 EVR numbers out this week? Curious what the sentiment is Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+1 just have patience, you'll be fine. worst thing you can do is lose hope, stop studying, and one day get a screener/r1 invitation. (non-target currently in a few processes) dicky
+1 Well, right off the bat doing a PHD in math is going to be a complete waste of time. I'd reckon to say even most quants don't have a PHD.  Substack_Guy
+1 Curious also Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+1 How do you get ideas as a generalist? Secondary sources from other investors (13f, investor letters), or primary sources (your own field work, top-down thinking)? And what’s your investing style? Roy Ike
+1 you forgot the wells fargo anchorage branch. Assistant branch managers regularly clear 46 hours (including daily paid 1 hour lunch.) You know what they say though. lucien_de_montclair