+3 How many Kelley freshman from Long Island will be rushing SAE and have autism? Good chance you're the only one Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+3 You were just complaining about the lack of M&A work your team does. jl12
+3 I did PE for 2 years at a MF and went back to banking (BB), both in sector teams. VP in IB - Cov
+3 squidmaxxing on wso before gta VI Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+3 Strategy: Workouts/RX (Taking over sponsor position on non-performing assets) at a LMM Primarily Credit & Structured Equity shop (with some buyout)City: Tier 3 MCOL Associate 2 in Private Credit
+3 The comments are so sad, like let the guy enjoy his life fr. Too many little people complexes in this comment section aha LendingFanatic1
+3 While I agree that being overly deferential, indirect, or evasive can be negative traits in finance and other settings, I didn’t say that being indirect or deferential is the same as being abrasive. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+3 I guess two things:  PEPrincess
+3 I generally take issue with all discussions around "incompetent" and "merit" because those words are seldomly used with a static definition that can be applied to two people or two groups. PEPrincess
+3 The discourse here is wrong I think. Analysts / Associates are probably best positioned to take advantage of AI. Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov
+3 I cannot believe how often I see this comments out of banking. My main hypothesis is still that banks just don't let people access good models (yet).  Associate 2 in PE - Other
+3 That's fair - I suppose I'm assuming that the female ones are solely the ones that are branded as feminine (random female profile picture, communicates they're female, etc.).  PEPrincess
+3 I haven't worked in HFs so this is trending outside my direct scope. My understanding was hedge funds are performance based but whether people are out on 1 bad trade, how long people can carry a loss earning streak, etc. PEPrincess
+3 Nah bro you got it backwards. Spending all your time chasing +1% risk adjusted returns is for losers. And don’t even get me started on “hedging out risk” (higher testosterone people enjoy taking risks). Jeffery Montenbeauberg
+3 Not your exact situation, but know a few guys at your level who were let go in the past year. All found new roles pretty quickly but went to less lucrative places - smaller funds, family offices, portcos. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+3 does anyone have some resources on what to use for elite boutique interview questions? ones that are actually hard?  Intern in IB-M&A
+3 Is everyone that doesn't agree with you uninformed or "based on wrong facts" or can reasonable people reach a different conclusion than you? PEPrincess
+3 Just keep recruiting. A lot of these interviews are luck based. You never know who else they are interviewing and might just be getting unlucky (not getting interviewers who you really connect well with).  That's_My_Quant
+3 First of all don’t lose that money. In a market like this it’s easy to make that kind of money but it’s easier to lose it. pbandjpartners
+3 Navy/Charcoal suit with no tie, you can ditch the jacket if its really hot outside but some coffee shops will be blasting AC so I'd bring it with you and just carry it in your arms. Prospect in IB-M&A
+3 From the perspective of someone that went to LMM PE from a MM IB Pros: Better WLB for me, more interesting work, feel like I've gained a broader skillset if I wanted to start my own company Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+3 thisisanexampleofausernameHow smart the friends that you source your ideas from are.  Investment Analyst in AM - Equities
+3 this is good context that changes picture a bit.  when you have MF pedigree on resume, I think you can wait it out much longer than most. asmith_1
+3 Of course it’s a red flag, but when has that ever stopped a desperate man? IsItREPE
+3 Software never left These fundraises were done months ago. Hg was announced earlier this year but it was done at least 9 months ago  VP in PE - LBOs
+3 Agreed although I think age/seniority is an important consideration.  If you're young, the boring/dry REPE is good pedigree/reps and you can subsequently transition to the developer/operator. asmith_1
+3 No balance sheet = not a BB TLBandChill
+3 Yeah I've heard first yrs at Shea clearing ~$230k Any 2 IB - Cov.
+3 There are many. Currently working in one - pay is definitely above market (way above banking and higher than most mega funds). I personally never had to take a pay cut throughout my career. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+3 Ya, the BS issue itself doesn’t seem existential. The bigger question I think we are asking is what else might be sitting under the surface. The theme is laxed dd and total risk on mode. Associate 2 in PE - Other
+3 I’m surprised the PWP shills on this forum haven’t hit this yet Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+3 I think there’s definitely an angle if you are able to grind the ladder for a while before being a recruiter. Associate 3 in RE - Comm
+3 when you get a pip Real lasagna G
+3 Right except there’s no VP promos for any associates since every fund performs like shit lol. Where u gunna go sunny? Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+3 Take the interview 100%. MBB bump in prestige will follow you for life and it’s a big enough difference to warrant trying. Associate 1 in Consulting
+3 Because it's a massive balance sheet bank with a bunch a morons running around at all levels. Simple as that. Associate 3 in RE - Comm
+3 del CapitalKoala
+3 Just saw that Balyasny built an AI research engine for investing, using ChatGPT 5 to monitor merger arbitrage forecasting, so the field is definitely changing. CapitalKoala
+3 The answer entirely depends on your opportunity cost pursuing a CFA. WillAckman
+3 People figure out they want different things 2 years into their career vs. when they are college students who haven't worked any job in finance full-time and come in excited. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+3 The profit share with no pref hurdle is so offensive and off market it'll be interesting to see how this plays out given the investor base is predominantly small retail and unsophisticated PEanon
+3 So you mean like most human males Partner in IB - Gen
+3 gotta drop ur height for this reply to not be comical deelcheef
+3 Yes, partners rarely leave. There are not many jobs that pay you a floor of low 7 figures with potential for much more through carry. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+3 freshman year is a good time to be asking this, most people don't start thinking about it until they're already behind. OFFERGOBLIN
+3 Ignore title. They are an extremely prestigious name and historically paid top employees a ton. It is considered the best seat amongst the LO's, typically. Analyst 1 in PE - LBOs
+3 I wouldn’t say it’s ingenious or stupid—going for the network is a top reason for most attending. While it can help some people with their job immediately post MBA, a lot are thinking more long term. Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+3 Idk if Berkedia or CBRE are looked down on since they are typically a top shop for volume, didn't really have any fallout from the broker fraud investigations, and have some decent IS bridge to agency volume. VP in RE - Comm
+3 HuskiesREguess who was part-owner of BiggerPockets? Such a punchable face  Rick Kane
+3 This post is 11 months old but an incredible forward indicator to OWL stock price. It was such an open secret this industry is a joke that ppl on WSO were clowning it. Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov
+3 Arbor has had a decent amount of leadership turnover due to the fallout from many broker issues (Meridian). VP in RE - Comm
+3 Yes Europeans aren't even considered real people until they have a masters. nutmegger189
+3 Woah, insane timeline to be thinking about this already. When I applying to college, I had no real idea what I wanted to do with my life or even really study....wild to realize how far behind I was than my peers. PEPrincess
+3 Alani nu - the can is like a billboard, everyone's gonna notice it. Really not what you want in an office. Also more experimental and less of an institutional status than the A tier ones.  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+3 That's actually why I put it in C tier. The crash after that 300mg is horrible. More caffeine at once does not equal better work, especially in a job where you're sitting down. It would be better for more active work. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+3 more matches on hinge than referrals in ib simbarawr264
+3 Four paths:  Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+3 Fund I and II were awesome as you said, but a shaved ape could have made a good return in software growth equity back in the 2010s. PE-biz-dev
+3 Well... i explained it. The proof is the price of both average and luxury homes. suu
+3 Thanks both — helpful perspectives. valueadhd
+3 Unfortunately it’s true that I am not a bit fan of my colleagues  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+3 Oh, wait. I understand what you mean. suu
+3 30 $7-7.5M Equities (Brokerage, 401K, Roth IRA, Other): ~$3-3.5M Privates: ~$1M Real Estate (Vacation Home, Equity Only): ~$3M Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov
+3 Don’t worry guys - 3,000 UBS employees being onboarded in Hyderabad as we speak. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+3 The problem is people leave but it is usually just the top performers. The bank is infested with bottom buckets that never leave so everyone is mostly okay with the rat pellet pay. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+3 Think about why the firm actually asks...they want to ensure that you're going to complete the entire associate program without jumping ship. SaaSChimp
+3 lol you’re gonna do very poorly trading binary readouts if you solely rely on ER reports. Probably better that you don’t see any of the puff pieces they put out and instead learn to form your own opinions. Benson Says
+3 UMM / Large Cap Assoc 1. I’m curious how involved you are in thesis building or early looks at businesses. DAVEYJONES
+3 Not the poster but sorry, the headcount figure you referenced is something you just conjured up as no bank publicly discloses it. 0singles_litters
+3 I rounded my 3.5 to a 4.0, is this a problem? Prospect in IB-M&A
+3 hope that kid has seen that clip and realizes what a fucking chud he looked like on video gkk1234
+3 If you don’t like it, no one’s forcing you to stay. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+3 Also remember that private equity, especially  at the associate level, is an apprenticeship program. SaaSChimp
+3 So that you can take 3 gap years just to end up in Big 4 Tax gkk1234
+3 I’m gonna assume from your title that you are still in banking, the day to day is actually different and significantly more interesting.Even though you still spend time in excel and ppt the breadth of things you do is sign Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+3 It goes American MBA's (blank slate) > international and domestic A2A's because all top and middle analysts leave to either buyside or another firm > international MBA's because they are stuck in the job. Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+3 Ong, HSW MBA to Lincoln is crazy work Intern in IB - Gen
+3 MV made the downfall of UBS that much more extreme by hiring only “yes men” who can’t actually close deals at the rate MDs are suppose to. When it’s internal politics over deals, you get a Barclays Bro-tocracy Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+3 What level of insecurity and retardation does this require Prospect in IB - Gen
+3 I was an associate at the firm who just left. I will tell you everything negative you read about it the firm is true to this day. The culture is very toxic and not at all collaborative. Anonymous Monkey
+3 Agree with this commenter. I get that you’re very eager and it’s a good thing in good measure. Nobody cares about goodwill, this question is way too in the weeds even for an accountant. Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+3 I’m American so don’t know what these numbers mean. Graduated 20yrs ago so grade inflation was as bad but finished with 3.4 from Columbia applied math. CPDDOUGH
+3 Sounds like they’re saying you act like a know it all and just need to be quieter instead of talking all the time Vader_.
+3 We're hiring for analysts and associates for acquisitions right now. Our teams are stretched way too thin, so the bar for an associate hire is pretty high. VP in RE - Comm
+3 Simply inaccurate. Americans tend to be better at working.  Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+3 Fuck what everyone else thinks do whatever you want to make you the best banker possible KageSelly
+3 Ok here’s my view, it’ll be slightly unconventional but fwiw I’m speaking from experience and having seen the trajectories of similar others. alexcokke
+3 AIF nooneinparticular
+3 Sir this is a Wendy’s larry david
+3 Some question/thouhghts  PEPrincess
+3 I work in the investment bank, not commercial real estate, but in lending, the syndication teams are paid the most, they are in charge. They handle all the left lead transactions. Works at Wells Fargo
+3 investor45It comes down to how you’re staffed and operate. Investment Analyst in AM - Equities
+3 One aspect that is sometimes overlooked in this decision is the impact your credentials have on LPs. David White
+3 IBD, Citizens, Boston, May 26 DealFlowDan
+3 M&A at UBS might be the worst groups in all of banking. Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+3 Managing Director in S&T - Equities ERguy118
+3 Who needs a model either the vibes are good or bad  Principal in HF - Event
+3 This is actually an important lesson for bankers and gets worse as you make more. Federal taxes on bonuses are generally withheld by your company at ~21% level which is generally way under what you actually owe. Quaneaser
+3 Pick that rock back up. Keep it pushing man. You got this ImagineSisyphusHappy
+3 BIWS project finance course was a lot of help for me and prepared me well for modelling tests. For all the places I interviewed, the modelling test was an operating solar farm acquisition using leverage Analyst 1 in IB - Cov