+1 Fuck me P.s. what does UMM stand for? Analyst 2 in RE - Other
+1 Harvard Yale and Tufts killed it this year Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 Based on the most helpful WSO content, private credit remains a compelling space, but the decision to enter it now depends on your risk tolerance, career goals, and the specific dynamics of the firm you're considering. WSO Monkey Bot
+1 not legal advice but -- this is likely insider trading under the misappropriation theory.  as an employee of netflix (for example), your employer owns that information. omygcqmqewkaosgdbn
+1 As a power industry veteran who worked at both utility company and IB, I would have to recommend Corp strategy. Green Zeus
+1 No comp threshold just based on title. Only applies to competing banks, not PE or anything else.  VP in IB - Cov
+1 Avoid like the plague, extremely high turnover for a reason.  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 This is generationally funny Analyst 1 in IB - Restr
+1 Sounds like a personality/likability problem, focus on being authentic and natural in your interviews, feel like so many kids interview like robots, reading off a screen these days  Associate 2 in IB - Gen
+1 Personally I don't mind having Balkan baddies slide in my DMs Soros_
+1 Makes sense. Ig for me what has always worked is to try to treat the interview like a chat or conversation rather than a test. Intern in IB - Gen
+1 Great perspective. When you say "smaller bank" do you mean like MM firms or the LMM / boutique firms compared to the Bulges? Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+1 lowkey have been looking at ice career path. could I leverage my Ivy education into skipping grunt ranks and being a commander? Will have to see futurerockstar56
+1 Jpm, except for FSG which is heavy 2 and out Assistant in Acct - Audit
+1 For sure, makes sense. I try not to be a complete contrarian investor since there's probably a reason those companies are trading so cheaply. Intern in IB-M&A
+1 If you come from a non-target background, having a masters degree and a better brand school on your resume would definitely help. It is a large reason people do the MSF. As well as a chance to extend recruiting. Associate 2 in AM - Other
+1 Centerview, Raymond James, PJT, William Blair Analyst 1 in S&T - FI
+1 It’s always going to be office dependent. No matter what company you work at. I really never understood the blanket questions of “what are the hours like at X firm”. Or “what’s the culture like at X company”? IRR you ready to rumble
+1 My main want from a program like this would be overall career advancement, but also for it to be worth it. figureditout
+1 I got that exact feedback at my MOE superday lol it pissed me off so fucking bad. Just among people at my school tho, those who “over prepared” tended to not convert. Intern in IB - Gen
+1 My best advice is just to keep pushing. Found myself in a similar situation where I SDed at Moelis, Jefferies, UBS, and Citizens, yet still didn’t convert one. RecruitmentIsParadise
+1 Inaccurate with most current An2’s across all groups not getting the nod Intern in IB - Cov
+1 DO NOT COME OFF AS ROBOTIC OR REHEARSED!!! I had an analyst chew me out in a first round for sounding like a robot and it completely ruined the interview. Be personable and be nice to these guys. RecruitmentIsParadise
+1 Good point. No chance I would buy a single stock in any of these names right now. Associate 1 in Private Credit
+1 . NotSure1214
+1 Greenspan's Panties Roger Sterling
+1 Based on the most helpful WSO content, your path to investment banking (IB) is absolutely viable, but it will require strategic planning and execution. Here's a breakdown of your situation and actionable advice: WSO Monkey Bot
+1 Not really a finance movie but Gold starring Matthew McConaughey is seriously underrated. Roger Sterling
+1 They are just can’t leave it, it’s true alex50
+1 Echo above. Not as large of a bank as guy above it seems but my team is a credit group. Underwriting/executing and have many exits to notable PC platforms or internally to LevFin. Even LMM PE Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 i dont think they will get fired for the cringe photoshoot itself (although it is cringe make no mistake), but it just really shows poor judgement, unnecessary vanity and just too much time on their hands lol. biscuitsandgravery
+1 Not crazy if ur non overtime is slightly above 50 braxtonberrios
+1 Analyst for a debt broker, we close ~1.5 per month, average check size ~$20MM. Analyst 2 in RE - Comm
+1 I would put “summer analyst” or “fall analyst”, I wouldn’t put intern. Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+1 I think the way to play it and someone will is to pitch it as a trained AI black box model which has been trained with 100s (more?) hours of the founders who need to be serious pe investors time. Senior VP in PE - Other
+1 Honestly it's still pretty late to be starting even as a sophomore, you would have needed to be networking soph fall as many offers have already gone out. Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+1 Refer to my response below. But the one sentence summary is I wish I was more prepared on commercial questions. TBDZ
+1 I answered this question in one of my reply previously. In SEA I'd say KKR, TPG, CVC, and WP are the 4 most active MFs. TBDZ
+1 Hi there, The practice for MFs now is they, almost 100% of the time, hire only junior levels (analyst and associate), or only very senior people if they want to poach some dealmaker. TBDZ
+1 So many incredible characters in it too. I wish they had more seasons. I rarely rewatch shows and now after reading this comment, I want to start this show again lol. NewIndustryHorizon
+1 I really wanna say PJT lol. RSSG is deservedly elite, you could say M&A is rlly good etc, but those aren't the only two groups at the firm, and the rest are somewhat lacking. Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+1 My take on why there's far more women in PE than HF is more structural (although the stories above are very real and those situations do happen). About 20-30 years ago, girls started to get the same opportunities as boys. Quant in HF - Other
+1 nah bro, I'm at an actual EB with dealflow and good trajectory that pays better than PWP. Congrats on PWP, though - the UBS of EBs Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Yeah got a lot of advice that I internalized, but they might have been lenient. I'm trying to find people who I can trust to interview but not being in a top club is hard to find those people. idkwhatimdoing123
+1 Yes exactly they are analysts on the same deal team and they log off completely when they go home (has never responded to pings) and when I confront them about it they just say they’ve been going through a lot and don’t ne Intern in IB-M&A
+1 Ready for all the downvotes given this forum is mostly prospects and interns who are scared of DEI and of women.  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Currently watching Industry.  Also watched Billions.  Vardalon
+1 Watched both of those.  Vardalon
+1 I think that’s actually about advertising.  Vardalon
+1 Nobodies mentioned The Associate, or Working Girl.  Or Capital, which is actually a French film.  Vardalon
+1 There was also the Canadian show Traders.  Not sure if you can find it anywhere now, though.  Vardalon
+1 Are you tring to say a woman did a sharpe of 2, lost her bonus to a man with sharpe of 0.8, and doesn't get recognized?  dcccc
+1 do you think someone will commute for an hour to make your lunch slop bowl for min wage? Let’s use our brains here Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Thanks make sense! I think we might have graduated the same year (or 1 year apart) Kudos to you for the jump! olamiemie
+1 afdhfgWhere performance is actually important, actually generating money, there is no room for diversity BS. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 m_1Associate 1 in PE - LBOs Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 It is usually a sliding scale depending on investor size, but being 15-20% over a 6% is pretty typical for a high yield fund. Most of the firms that focus on core debt do it for fees only. CRE Credit
+1 Well said  Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+1 In terms of prestige and outcomes, hsg and bocconi are MUCH higher tier than RSM. Milan and Switzerland aren't exactly cheap though.  Qwentin8
+1 Graduating early is not helpful for finance since the timelines are pretty rigid. Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+1 This is so not true, international can still say no and slack if they are analyst and leave after 2 years of banking since laying off anyone will need to pay them 6-7 months of salary - I am an international w green card a Intern in IB - Gen
+1 if you are asso and want to stay in banking long term then sure, but for analysts who are going to buyside, no need to grind at all and anybody say have to is harming you in the long term. Intern in IB - Gen
+1 orked with a few of these, and the biggest bottleneck is always compliance speed. GT and Stonehaven are massive, which sometimes means 5-10 day turnarounds. For independent dealmakers, that speed kills deals. jasper.thorne1
+1 +1 to this. My current manager on my project has a very social life it seems outside of work. She's awesome to work with and I don't mind going the extra mile for her when asked. Business School in CorpStrat
+1 I really don’t see a problem with it.   Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+1 So i didn't know they were in FIC, I assumed they were in O&A. In terms of culture, i cant say ive had any interactions with them, they all seem nice. Analyst 1 in S&T - FI
+1 Survivorship bias is a thing. The question didn't specify just finance though even just limiting it to that universe you're wrong, but that's ok prospect.  PrivateTechquity 🚀🚀🚀
+1 congrats on britehorn retard jewslayer1944
+1 waste_management_consultant JonnyDrama
+1 UBS baiscally had no women across at all levels and women are amongst the first to get laid off. Anti DEI if anything. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Know Parthenon has an office there and Trintum is a ~$1bn fund based in Austin. The largest firms in Austin are all tech investing in different flavors so not as ideal if not interested in tech. Vista is tech buyout. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Actually by the responses on this post, Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 What type of bank are you at? BB, MM, EB? That will determine what kind of exit op you can get. Won’t lie PE is very similar to IB, and the WLB isn’t great. Same with MBB consulting. Analyst0910
+1 delete Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Congrats on UChicago Penguin2006
+1 $35 dinner, ubers after 8  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 insert customary congratulations on UBS comment Jokes aside, bump, hope you get some good responses LendingFanatic1
+1 Would say there is a unique disdain for Moelis on this forum among its EB peers and few shills (sweatshop lol)  Intern in IB - Gen
+1 IB might be better as all cash comp and easier to move up  midwest_analyst
+1 What do you suggest instead? Too late for tech and consulting is even worse with DEI and simply not a fit for me I think  Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 what does the K in ibk stand for Intern in IB - Cov
+1 Honestly the branding isn’t that great and you lose 4 years learning not so much Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+1 Grizzled guy bumping this for those studying. EV is up 100 because you gained $100 in operating assets (the PP&E). Debt is up 100 because you issued 100 in debt. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 It's possible but it really depends what other schools you're weighing it against. Stern alums will be focused on the tidal wave of Stern alumns emailing them. Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+1 I get the sentiment, but I am also not of the belief that WE have to be the ones abandoning the great cities just because of the bottom 20% of society. JulianRobertson
+1 The peak exit is to move to a LCOL country once you reach your desired/necessary net worth and chill for the rest of your life playing GTA VI, not a HF. Pro Veritate
+1 Definitely not too late, I've seen guys make the move in their 40s. Just keep trying. MMPM
+1 Czechia, Poland, Slovakia, Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia all have a much higher quality of life than anywhere in the US or Western Europe. Keep coping mw1337
+1 Yeah, would probably agree with that sentiment. There's always the chance that this will be like '08 for TPG, and they do end up recovering, but I think that's impossible to underwrite as a junior. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 1 studentmonkey101
+1 right... liberal arts Ivy students get these roles because of their "skills." Incoming Analyst in IB - Restr
+1 CEO or regional head of a major firm pays well. Amusingly, at that point, you’re also essentially doing your own deals.  CRE
+1 Moelis is overrated as fuck. Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Better be some good reasons, is the under performance between a few concentrated investments? Struggle to see a story LP’s would accept. [email protected]
+1 could be wrong so if anyone from IU wants to chime in feel free too, but non IBW break in just fine into IB if thats your ultimate goal — just not top groups. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 If you graduate early, you will not place in PE. Firms aren’t impressed you’re doing it early — you’re expected to beat out older competitors just the same. Intern in PE - LBOs
+1 I’m all for making fun of women or any group for that matter but this critique is completely stupid and reeks of the ‘tism. Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Yes that’s for sure the goal to bring in my own deals and use my producer for credibility and grey hair. Analyst 2 in RE - Res
+1 Becky spotted ^ Principal in IB - Cov
+1 Seems like purely preference tbh, these are all way different. Probably rule out piper right away unless you’re really into energy Intern in IB - Gen