+1 you could learn the PE craft and then, for example, go to Cambodia, raise some funds, use your own savings or borrow, and start acquiring companies that are run inefficiently and professionalize them. GS under Blankfein
+1 You have very limited options without Dutch in Netherlands for IB. In sell side Levfin or structured finance is possible at a few banks, m&a very little chance. Anything buy side is obviously super hard to get. Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+1 Definitely will be heavy on technicals I think sa_10
+1 You’re entering a bad risk reward situation Research Associate in AM - Equities
+1 newlymintedbooth Ozymandia
+1 lmao GS under Blankfein
+1 Most of LMM PE is emailing, regardless of what level you're at. Analysis is getting increasingly automated and all that's left is sourcing, due diligence and legal documentation. Beamer_Ford
+1 Tell me you were in a frat without telling me you were in a frat user231463
+1 Get deals done. Show you are someone that can contribute to getting deals done. Also, building sector / industry vertical expertise helps. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 Work in the space and would include Jefferies, Houlihan Lokey, and Truist as well and that makes up 95% of banks I see on these deals. Analyst 3+ in IB-M&A
+1 Based on the most helpful WSO content, here's the deal: you need to tread carefully here. WSO Monkey Bot
+1 Ooh banking and PE friends user231463
+1 One of the companies I angeled in that went >100x (sweet payout on exit). I had some friends join at the round prior to exit. They helped scale 1–>multiple products. They got paid I think somewhere 10-20x on equity. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 UBS ib not top group or JPM Asset management? Debating and don’t want to go into PE later, just want prestige and experience to open up more opportunities. Anonymous Monkey
+1 . chimpchompchamp
+1 Tough to give advice when you haven’t shared your long term goals. What do you want to do in 3-4 years? Do you like what you do now / your current team? Associate 1 in PE - Growth
+1 It’s not. You’re not offering any analysis or new perspective. It’s a rotation and flow based. Not technical at all Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 I kind of did list out my 3 potential paths. I'll say that all roads lead to entrepreneurship at the end tho u ain't gonna catch me working anything corporate by 32-33 unless its an absolute steal. Gold-ManSacks
+1 Personally I'd look into corporate banking. Base pay is the same (bonus is only 20-40%) but WLB is nice which I believe is typically 55-60ish hours a week. VP in PE - LBOs
+1 In same boat I have not passed a resume screen anywhere and no one responds to emails, lol Intern in CorpFin
+1 I also vote to give it 6 months (of focusing on your firm + settling into/enjoying your new city) before you start looking. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 I mean if your making consistent returns and your LPs are happy, who is complaining that your product is “low idio” ? It’s not like SM product is charging 3/30+ like the pods for their returns.  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 I do think this is actually a good career gamble for PE people to pursue, especially if they have some ties to a developing country. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 Got screwed over with returns last year, but put my ego aside and sent a thank you email that was personalized to each person on the team that I interacted with meaningfully. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Even if you didn't get a return offer but have people you got on with / close to during your internship, they will be useful in the future, even if it doesn't seem clear right now. Analyst 2 in PE - Other
+1 More PE funds than mcdonalds, 8,000->4,000 public companies, seeing shitcos we are pitching on where we have to fuck with the compset to drive up the desktop valuation because MD said sponsor paid 20x on entry. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 You first say you got SPD tmr then you said offers are out today. R1 started to run last Friday and still ongoing. Earliest SPD is Wednesday, stop capping Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+1 Yes definitely possible. You might take a year reset but have seen our analysts get offers / multiple looks from traditional coverage roles. Generic Banker
+1 Bump, keep ur head up, similar boat Intern in IB-M&A
+1 Would disagree with this statement. PEI and Marathon have been pretty active. I am at an EB and obviously don’t compete with us, but have seen a bunch recent articles and transactions they are advising on. Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov
+1 thats a generalization. Your sample space includes just people who didn't get RO and ended up at better firms. You gotta look at people who didn't get RO and ended up jobless or at a worse position. nontarget_2026
+1 My statement still applies in that case Generic Banker
+1 Appreciate the thoughts from a check writer but a little confused (I am just a dumb re guy though) therightcoast_
+1 Analyst 1 in IB - Restr Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 New business registrations are up substantially in recent months. VP in PE - LBOs
+1 Dudes quoting literature instead of sending some emails Intern in CorpFin
+1 Is JPMAM recruiting, or have they fully converted intern offers? joesilvester
+1 These groups are all pretty different in the sense that their portfolios look different. E.G Tac Opps has more large cap growthy stuff to my knowledge while MGG is more middle market shitcos. notsospecialsituation
+1 just look at it from a headcount perspective. how many quant firms hire how many new grads(i know internships etc. but zoom out) - 20? 30? how many firms out there would be even considered "quant"? imgoldenbaby
+1 you are not real dude. trying to get rid of the competition.  no_home_jerome
+1 Caution on Elliot that will hold for other funds too. Elliot has many different strategies. Frankly they are closer to PE in how they operate with most $’s coming from drawdown style. CPDDOUGH
+1 people are idiots and actually dont know what they wanna do in life. 95% of high finance people shouldnt have been here in the first place. they are basically equivalent to accountants. equitystrat
+1 It's not even a real HireVue just asks you what you're likely to do in different situations (not a video interview, literally just most like me or not like me type questions) shamkin
+1 Long shot but if your goal is really to make money and provide financially, try to convert your internship into a FT seat in Houston (or Chicago?). NYC will just not work. Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+1 Intro from close friend that had known folks at the company is how I got in. CFACAN1
+1 JPM supers should go out tmrw f1keymonster
+1 Behavioral and then the the one case study which is the only "technical" section. reddemon
+1 Analyst: 105,120,135 + ~50% bonusAsso: 180,190,210 + ~70% bonusVP: 225 + ~80% bonus, but becomes much more less transparent Source: Roommate works in JPM Coverage Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 chills bro chills… Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 I'm a big believer of separating church and state, even if you look like a drug dealer in public carrying 2 phones. unders
+1 Consulting and AM isnt going to cut it unless you show clear skills and alignment to IB  Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 My 2c and you can downvote me for all I care but I went through the internship exp as a science major in IB (not Chem but I understand it) Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 There’s no such thing as balance. Just figure out what you want, make good choices, and do the best you can with the cards you’re dealt. crazylifechoices
+1 Thanks for your input. Couple things here.  rotund_fish
+1 Just go for what you actually want. There are so many PE firms out there, think culture fit or at least having a cohesive story that you can speak to matters more than anything else. Intern in IB - Gen
+1 A chance at what? Leaving my family for a singer with a busted jawline? Smoke Frog
+1 Congrats on M Klein 67676767
+1 Ask if she is being serious and then ghost her. investmenttbanking
+1 With all due respect, you sound like you desperately need some hobbies/ passions. I think there is something out there for everything. investmenttbanking
+1 this is a good point - i think if you're running on very little sleep, doesn't really matter when the workout is.. with that being said depends on your goals. MnIGuy
+1 Not true there is still a hirevue it’s after you complete the virtual assessment not everyone is invited to complete the hirevue  honk_cat
+1 This could be a top tier list ever made on this site lol 😂. Seriously impressed you managed to hit every ib tho coolmonkey67
+1 How many juniors do you have? Southern_cre
+1 I used to work at an extremely sweaty EB with unreasonable MDs had to operate constantly under massive stress and had to take pills to fall asleep and had chronic diseases. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Where else are you going to make a low risk +/- $500k/yr in your late 20s? Mr Balloon Hands
+1 To improve your success rate as a new broker, here are some actionable strategies based on the most helpful WSO content: WSO Monkey Bot
+1 I hear you and I don't think you are off base for feeling that way. But I would disagree overall. RCJ92
+1 Read a ton of threads about PE lifestyle and every single person except one VP said it was horrible. monk monkey
+1 Return offer rates in SF were 100% (3/3) Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Having been in a rotational program, I find it great for building a network or if you’re targeting more qualitative leadership-aligned work. Analyst 1 in CorpStrat
+1 Can confirm - happiest people I know tried the "path" didn't get what they wanted and in off-cycle ended up with sweet gigs they intend to ride into the sunset with. FR_@_Monkey
+1 My understanding is that Mark has worked in PE/IB and is Meridith's husband, which may explain some of the firm's attitude in dealing with candidates. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Literally nothing wrong with caffeine Raijin
+1 Can't stand his super cringe affinity for a red strap Raijin
+1 It's outsourced and the outsourcing company depends on your geography. There isn't enough info here to give you any meaningful advice, as things like disclosure depend on geography too.  AceTheSolve
+1 If I knew you were a top to above average bucket Associate, I'll be more impressed. If you are below average I'll probably view it more negatively.  VP in PE - LBOs
+1 Someone’s grumpy - imagine you have 1-3mm liquid or in investments from your first 10 years of working and then you get laid off. If you’re doing long/short or merger arb - you’re analyzing markets all day. monk monkey
+1 Any specific firms? Intern in IB-M&A
+1 Bump, any good credit exits from CAG? Intern in IB-M&A
+1 Do you not have hobbies? If I had the money to fully support my current lifestyle + hobbies, I could retire right now and never be bored a day in my life. I'm 32.   kiltedlowlander
+1 I wouldn't say you're wrong, but it truly is a YMMV situation. As someone who grew up in a wealthy, non-woke Asian country outside the U.S. Intern in IB-M&A
+1 As a non-target, I reach out anyways if we have nothing in common, some of y'all give me nothing to work with if you got an empty LinkedIn and as a non-target theres like 0 alums at any IB monkeyloveymoney
+1 bump Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 Similar boat it’s rough out here but it’ll work out it always does  anonymousnon-target
+1 Her latest LinkedIn post claims to have multiple EB positions. I honestly wonder what’s she calling an EB? VP in IB - Cov
+1 Your biggest mistake was joining as an Aso1. With 3-ish years of banking + 1 year of PE I would've pushed for Aso2. Its much easier to negotiate in at a higher-level than jump promotions. VP in PE - LBOs
+1 Would imagine a lot of things like private credit and hedge funds are reliant on IB before. Also, your ability to take HF risk (can blow up in months and job stability is nill) is probably gone.  InsuranceBro
+1 Pretty sure that's an automated standard one urface21
+1 Noice! Prospect in Non-profit
+1 Look up reverse snobbery investmenttbanking
+1 Look into the teams at large asset managers (Ares, Apollo, KKR, etc) that sell the funds to financial advisors, RIAs, banks, etc. LAXPipeline
+1 Will definitely look into that sir. 🫡Funny Username Btw 😂 gzkbn
+1 'Majority' is wrong - BNP, Mizuho, Scotia all have better WLB but that's pretty much it. And that's because none of them are good at / offer M&A. Santander is sweaty (and even then not that strong)  Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+1 Any large gap between expected and current will invite questions about your honesty, which is not something you want. If you're going to post "expected GPA", I'd argue you should also post current GPA to date. MMPM
+1 This one is great too. "I think rent stabilization is a shitty policy but the average democrat voter is so stupid they think its a good idea and fuck you for disagreeing with them" You're a fucking clown man.  larrysellers
+1 “Expected YE comp” HFPM15
+1 Pump and dump. Don’t be a simp Director in IB - Cov
+1 I mean tbh most ppl recruiting for FT arent in the position to choose groups, so I think almost everyone would still be willing to give it a shot regardless of group. greatgreatdreams
+1 The figures above are total comp, so base + cash bonus + equity BabylonLine
+1 My hours are decent, it's the only reason I've stuck with it Associate 1 in PE - LBOs