+1 arthistorymusicgym ProspectiveChimp
+1 Reality is people just care you are doing a good job and actually taking on real tasks. No one is giving you a return offer over being last in office. Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+1 I know most recruit through Cornell. Now if you dont have the time commitment or have already graduated, Cornell does a watered down summer program I believe. teddythebear
+1 Uh, problem is that you're just gonna get filtered out. These days I think almost every student I see entering IB has PE internships and such. usernameladiesman217
+1 Don’t do it girl - not worth it and if it doesn’t work you might resent your fiance nothinglol
+1 This is an IB target school ranking, not a college prestige ranking. MIT is certainly Tier 1 if you're talking about the quality of education and its highly competitive admissions standards. Associate 1 in PE - Other
+1 I've heard EVR/JEFF/LAZ/UBS dont model but not 100% sure. HL FSG is more relationship management, not really IBD tbh Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov
+1 My guy...I think your dream is dead if you STAY in PE VP in PE - LBOs
+1 Those plus people with family money, non-finance entrepreneurs, foreign oligarchs, etc. kuf135
+1 I guess people simply got to see the reality and not the Wolf of Wall street version wallstrett
+1 You're not emailing companies. You're emailing people. They're just like other people. Establish a relationship and see what comes of it. nutmegger189
+1 I'm 19, so I'll share my perspective on a few of these points: londonraccoon
+1 I think the associate hiring market is really robust right now. I managed to lateral up market from my current MM seat to an EB and had a few BB offers on the table. Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+1 If you're aiming for investment banking, Wharton remains one of the strongest options due to its unparalleled placement into top firms like Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and PJT. WSO Monkey Bot
+1 Thanks for the advice! I'm curious as to what I should include in a cold email/LinkedIn message. Should I express interest in working at the firm or just hearing about their experience? JJ656
+1 havent been in a similar spot personally but saw someone at my old bank do it (as an ANL2) Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+1 Northwestern by far  guywhoisrecruitingig
+1 Girls place fine without clubs. If you’re a guy you’re absolutely fucked lol Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+1 The more I do this job, the more useless a model feels from my seat (concentrated long-only). It clearly matters a lot for a MM pod, but my experience has been the opposite. Investment Analyst in HF - EquityHedge
+1 biotech been difficult to find shorts Associate 1 in PropTrad
+1 I broke into this industry successfully.. I don’t think a single job in IB at the junior/mid/senior level should go to foreigners and I think Americans should prioritize the economic wellbeing of other Americans.  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 https://discord.com/invite/j3YYrnCa7z 714_Lemmon_Legend
+1 Sounds more like insecurity than patriotism AmicusOliver
+1 imagine being pissed off that the people who risk their lives to deliver your burrito are the wrong skin color  Intern in IB - Gen
+1 Theres probally 15 other threads like this on the forum. Quick tip -> search your question + "wso" on google, its search filter is much better then wso's internal one Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+1 I like what you said about maximizing options. Goldman ballsack
+1 I do not think the city is the deciding factor anymore. In our case, the quality of the technical discussions varied much more than the location. Hazel_Parkery
+1 Slightly wavy, straight, whatever.  It's not curly.  nutmegger189
+1 Honestly, it really depends on your lifestyle and where you are in your career. If that rent is eating up a huge chunk of your take-home pay and leaving you stressed about savings, it's definitely pushing it. Hanlon
+1 I paid 5k as an associate 3 and then 6k as a VP. Your budget is doable, but a little tight imo if you have a kid and your partner is not working. You can afford it but comes down to if its worth it to you Leverage Hero
+1 Honestly, if you've already had a pitch put into their book, you’ve clearly proven you can do the work. mithusjc
+1 It feels incredibly slow. You're not the only one facing silence right now; the volume of applicants is just overwhelming for most firms. elsizinie939
+1 Nws, good luck leefbmp
+1 Ya I mean unless you wouldn’t be starting for several months or it’s a near-term catalyst, I’d hold onto the idea and then come in day one with it if you get the job. Investment Analyst in HF - Other
+1 Valiant, Verso, Route One, Farallon Analyst 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 So i think a few things misleading - the stat is nation and sector wide, and banking is hardly representative of that. KardashevScalingUp
+1 If thats the case (Im uneducated on this topic) why is it very difficult for Europeans to legalky migrate to the US?  hyronimus
+1 The consensus might be wrong, so might as well be contrarian and stay in the path and see how it goes. GS under Blankfein
+1 It's so so so over Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 I mean yea chances are nobody would verify  Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 I think you can get into LBS/LSE with your experience. Most of their cohort is international and doesn't have your level of internships so you'll be top candidate.  Intern in IB-M&A
+1 They're all just waiting until every software PE firm changes its thesis to "AI-native services" monkeyvjit
+1 Would live off dividends and explore other careers that interest, whether it be finance or not. You have the luxury of not having to take a job you don't want purely to pay your bills.  Associate 3 in IB - Gen
+1 You don’t have any other options but to wait. You’re most likely going to get ghosted so keep it moving Amazon Prime
+1 You could lie and get the job.  Or you could work hard and be honest and know that it was all YOU who got the offer without having to stoop down to get ahead.  Summer Associate in IB - Gen
+1 Started in balance sheet, Cornell and NYU were most common colleges with Cornell leading the pack. I was in a regional office (TX) and went to a state school. Associate 3 in RE - Comm
+1 only reasonable comment here lol swerveokay
+1 I don't think rolling matters its still first come first served Are you using Trackr?  Prospect in IB - Cov
+1 I can only see the markets offcycle on trackr, i've never seen an ibd off cycle intern on linkedin Prospect in IB - Cov
+1 .. Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+1 meh, internships in london are just luck of the draw anyway. interns at my bank rarely have actual experience (or knowledge). Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+1 LBS will have the best outcome out of all those options, but equally will be hardest to get in. GL ! rpdwldn
+1 Yeah I've been thinking about the same thing...depressing but true. Thanks for your advice! wildjobhunter23333
+1 Based on the most helpful WSO content, a two-week delay after an HR phone screen, especially when the hiring manager is unavailable, is not uncommon. WSO Monkey Bot
+1 What's wrong with trillionaires or billionaires? If the top 1% disappeared, a lot of our critical businesses would slow down and innovation would take a step back Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+1 Know all of the levfin guys at my bank. The only guys with CB experience are the ones that came out of school in a rotational program and networked their way in. It will depend on who you know, imo Banker1290
+1 From my understanding, hiring immigrants were not a function of DEI (pre h1b visa changes), it's because they will listen and work harder. I understand your first argument more than your second.  superinv123
+1 This thread has been formed by my opinions developed by working for an “American” BB. I have successfully broken in and outcompeted internationals at every level.  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Idk why you wouldn’t try networking Works at Goldman Sachs
+1 There are quite a few multi managers here now, but fewer teams / firm. Woodline and Freestone also stand out. Industry coverage is broad. Tortuga Vallarta
+1 Hah, this brings back memories. I was an hourly intern as a summer associate and got in trouble with HR for working over 40 hours a week. Fun times.  Don't expect to make any extra money this summer.  CRE
+1 That's a valid concern, and I'm glad you brought it up. Fair point. Nurse Rahma Dikhinmabhatt
+1 Lol are people really believing in this? What kind of brain damage you need to suffer to convince yourself to this BS? 0singles_litters
+1 If you are this worried about recruiting, I don't see how you would last in an internship let alone full time. LAXPipeline
+1 That's a fair point and a valid one. Most Canadians I work with disagree with how our provincial and federal government has handled the economy and housing.  FinnesseGod
+1 Most of these associate postings are not active. My group posted this associate opening a year ago, keeps refreshing once in a while too but we’re not actively looking for a lateral. 0singles_litters
+1 “Listen and work harder” is pure cope. H-1B and OPT immigrants must obey every employer demand or risk deportation since their legal status is directly tied to the sponsoring company. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 I don’t think having a top MM offer says you weren’t “good enough”. Grow up Broker in IB - Cov
+1 I think it’s much simpler than all this. Yes you can go down the hard route to differentiate find alpha do something unique invent something new etc etc. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 sequoia vc has a publics arm - scge HFPM15
+1 use bloomberg.equity screen functionvaluation, sort by vs 5 or 10yr std deviation (shows companies trading way below their 10 year multiples) Incoming Analyst in S&T - Equities
+1 I think full-time Ib recruiting from a top MM is one of the strongest positions you can come from. Everyone reading your resume will immediately understand why you are doing it. Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 Depends on the property. Most are private-pay and some properties allow for subsidized rents. Finme
+1 I think it really varies by company - which isn’t a helpful response but… Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Teneo does really well in the UK restructuring market. The team there is led by ex-Deloitte RX guys who are very well known. VP in IB - Cov
+1 Wow thanks god you are intelligent Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+1 Based on the most helpful WSO content, the most fulfilling industry or sector depends on your interests, expertise, and career goals. Here are some insights: WSO Monkey Bot
+1 And we should shame the BBs/EBs that do until they don’t. It’s less rampant than tech but plenty of H1B abuse by BBs  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Keep in mind it’s also a signal to your firm - if you decline to participate (when most others take it), it throws a yellow flag to your firm re: promotion, loyalty, firm buy-in, etc. SaaSChimp
+1 It’s hard but there are people who go through medical school later in life, knew two. Would just really take time to reflect that this is truly what you want to do. It’s no cakewalk either. asdf1248
+1 Both DEI and H1Bs are a problem and both lead to mediocre hires  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 I'm US based, but teneo is def a strong firm. Believe it's stronger in europe than in the usa in all honesty. As someone else mentioned, the leadership is ex deloitte RX, which is not bad at all. Associate 1 in Consulting
+1 Men of Caucasian (European and Mediterranean) descent experience the highest rates of male pattern baldness globally. Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+1 Alright buddy, lmk when you get an offer then. Cash cow masters are useless for IB recruiting hsjdndjj
+1 I refuse to believe this post is real. If you really have that much free time, start a side hustle or something instead of nuking your life for minimal upside. Even day trading futures would be more optimal Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+1 You need a top MSF or you won’t get hired. Telemachus
+1 interested in a research career and asking this ngmi imho Research Analyst in AM - FI
+1 If you need a credit card to impress women you’re ngmi  Research Analyst in HF - RelVal
+1 A recent post summarized the situation pretty well - decent enough deal flow, but micromanaging CEO, who thinks that he needs to be in the weeds of everything, makes it less than enjoyable experience overall. Intern in IB - Cov
+1 Thx! 50% of the business mix involves a long dated contract (with a province) running till 2050, but it is a software solution that is being provided to province. No signifcant physical assets that target has. Principal in PE - LBOs
+1 It came off infinitely worse for the other guy to try to put you down in front of seniors. waccAF
+1 Unreasonable seniors  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 khan.mmuaThere is frustration regarding firms that observe federal and market holidays but ignore Juneteenth, which many feel sends the wrong message. premia
+1 This never happens, you’re just making up a scenario in your head.2. I don’t care about intel, the post said banks, so let’s stick with banks for this purpose. [email protected]
+1 Yeah, but they won’t help that much because it is (mostly) HR-led, not like IB where analysts have a tracker on you. But my friend at a MF claims a coffee chat got him the interview. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Yes but I've seen completely retarded people pass. If you study you will pass. Take it seriously but same time, thousands of finance people have done this before. I wouldn't stress too much JulianRobertson
+1 Sometimes you get a second chance to retake it but regardless, if you fail it, you should get fired.  VP in PE - LBOs
+1 lol heard of an analyst (Becky) who failed because “it was too hot in there” … she got to take it again and still works there … don’t tell me there’s no special treatment in this industry KageSelly
+1 My intern did not meet my expectations, but I still wanna keep him. Don't wanna do more mandatory random coffee chats, acting nice, and wake up at 8 AM for a random superday CSHouston
+1 ojapar20And that's exactly your shortcoming ignoramus.Perhaps listen to the people who have explored the technology more than you? IsItREPE