+1 Best advice I can give you is to stop overthinking. Realistically speaking, no one knows and you'll probably never be able to find out what happened unless if you're hired there. electronicmango
+1 Some large shops hire undergrads (M/C/P) all have programs Outside of these you’re gonna need to do IB/ER for equities  Analyst 2 in HF - EquityHedge
+1 It's not hard to filter these academically obsessed (test taker as you say) candidates. GS under Blankfein
+1 You care more about his job title than his personality or integrity? You’re perfect for finance! Smoke Frog
+1 arossi: "I was not factually incorrect." --------- arossi: "Stop calling it a high paying job.” (Internal quotations omitted).  jl12
+1 Yeah, this makes sense. I'd say I have a good enough profile for IB, but I'm not even getting first-round interviews despite applying broadly. EchoNomad
+1 Gone down hill in terms of pay vs hours, glorified consultancy with some really toxic seniors.  Anon76
+1 Your lack of reading comprehension here is not a good sign Research Analyst in ER
+1 ER isn't dying per se but it is certainly going to change - mostly because of AI, yes.  nutmegger189
+1 What is street TC in infra these days? Research Analyst in AM - Equities
+1 Former MF PE associate, most of the portco work I did was for add-ons and capital structure stuff (refinancing) in addition to the typical quarterly LP reporting work. Investment Analyst in HF - Other
+1 I have been thru the same shit and I am second year right now. Don’t let your confidence get shaken, that’s what causes more mistakes. If you make a mistake, take accountability and do your best not to make it again. zoomizoomi
+1 These things rarely go as one plans for them. You are likely not coming back after a 2 year stint, and it might take longer. VP in IB - Cov
+1 I know it's easier said than done, but I would try not to overthink at this stage as what's done is done.  momonke
+1 I'd push back a little on "not competitive." Deferred apps are read against other college seniors, not the regular pool. Oba Ajayi
+1 Seems like a WSO Fantasy post where in reality nothing ever happened.  Isaiah_53_5 💎🙌💎🙌💎
+1 I think the answers to your questions are situational and no one has a crystal ball.  CRESEA
+1 If you know anyone in HFs, this is the right week/month to ask them your original question. Iykyk MMPM
+1 That’s what they said about you when the calculator came out… Boomer. If technology upgrades made everyone dumb, then we wouldn’t have got this far VP in IB - Cov
+1 CFA only has 3 levels. And no this is not doable to study in a week. Prepare behaviourals, technicals (research markets/division) and hage justified opinions formed  Intern in S&T - Other
+1 If Smoke Frog is making sense in a thread, it really means OP is so wrong in his position lol Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 Bumping what the guy above said. If you don’t take the severance you’re a moron. burner18363737728
+1 Ok you mean the IMC. Yes it’s offered by CFA and is a UK level 4 qualification, but don’t call it a CFA level 4. try learn as much as possible. Know your products, know why MS, why this position specifically etc Intern in S&T - Other
+1 You Gen Z analysts take feedback way too personally. Just don't take feedback personally, it's not a reflection on your intelligence or effort you put in if your PM or MD says the thing doesn't make sense. outside_lines
+1 NYC and it’s not close SOFRsoGood
+1 You cant carry a simple conversation yet work in S&T....and I am the one without a job. Volruss
+1 the fixed-interest shortcut changes your debt paydown too, not just the interest line. simple example: 100 debt, 10% interest, 30 cash flow before interest each year, no taxes, and all remaining cash swept at year-end. LedgerShelf
+1 Can’t forget that management projected 50% Growth YoY either IWorkMoreHours
+1 Can you negotiate ongoing employment in lieu of severance? Same dollar amount but you get to stay employed while you’re looking for your next gig.  CEO in IB - Gen
+1 new platform, add-ons and portco work (which you do not in banking) What exactly are these magical skills?  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 homie we dont got levfin up in canada  Intern in CB
+1 most levfin groups are in commercial banking (RBC corporate client group, CIBC mid-market levfin, BMO corporate finance, etc) and you basically get worked the same hours for 50% less pay. Intern in CB
+1 Hes on garden leave before joining Moelis. Ehren has been running Liontree the last few years. Associate 2 in IB - Gen
+1 Agreed, main issue about pe is 2 years and you are out.  squashcast
+1 I mean it’s a fair criticism tbh - no one I knew felt going to PE gave them better experience for being an “operator” or an “entrepreneur”. The best way was to just go directly into it after banking… Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+1 Alpha & CAI out of top 10. Replace DSP with Akpsi. Rest accurate Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Can you explain this ? Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+1 BACRest of the clubs at Cornell VP in IB - Gen
+1 If you work at a developer you're going to be doing a specific asset class. outside_lines
+1 always thought it was funny to see retard PE guys think they are investors. its just IB 2.0. oh and also, no talented nor smart people stay in IB or PE. IB and PE are the new accountants in this day and age now equitystrat
+1 BuyLowSellYOLODid anyone hear back after last week’s AC? Yup they gave the offer like same week Thursday. Anyone else in Jan start? wattseven1
+1 OP gonna let boredom/fomo get in the way of having a successful career/life Quant in HF - EquityHedge
+1 for starters he definitely makes $400-500k all in. gun to my head thats my bet but honestly if i was bro and saw this (highly likely btw this forum is big but not that big) it would be an ick. imgoldenbaby
+1 Thanks for doing this. Can I ask total YOE you had before you went to HF (2 and 2 for IB PE))? Then, YOE before you made PM?  Analyst 2 in PE - LBOs
+1 TCI, Pershing  HFPM15
+1 Based on the most helpful WSO content, here's what you need to know: Citi Leveraged Finance Underwriting (LFU) Role: WSO Monkey Bot
+1 Idk ur function that would be important context. But I mean a discount in title is fair and standard practice I'd be surprised if u did not. Gold-ManSacks
+1 Thanks for the fintech/service provider/AI firm suggestions, appreciate it. I'm not sure if you misread my reply - what I'm saying is I want a low-stress + 40 hours/week job now not after the MBA. Associate 3 in HF - Other
+1 that google sheet comp data set from a few years ago is great and would be clutch if someone remade it. Associate 2 in RE - Comm
+1 ~1-1.5 hr but I'm WFH 95%+ of the time. Not ideal but many people in my area work in Manhattan and make it work. NewIndustryHorizon
+1 There's certainly value, but what is your goal with those skills? If you're optimizing for income, IB and HF are better. You won't need to worry about some random investment going to $0 and your carry going into flames. Analyst 1 in RE - Comm
+1 Chicks love lizard guys, dude. Buy a few Billy Walsh
+1 Genuinely curious - what's the argument for PC here? Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 What team/office is it for? Mine was SF Tech so could be different from team to team.  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Nah did it remote since I was in NY at the time  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 many in HF worked in our industry before we covered its equities, which feeds our perspective and passion for the sector. For one reason or another we took a 90 degree turn to HF. folfoxy
+1 LMM usually has poor technical training, processes, and lower quality deal reps and experience. VP in IB - Gen
+1 Didn’t realize AI was going to teach you how to play golf with clients  Managing Director in IB-M&A
+1 For a mid-range watch, I'd recommend checking out Casio, Timex, and Fossil. They offer different styles, from simple everyday watches to more formal designs. anujgusain0602
+1 easily explained by the fact that many big industries are not letting their employees use the newest models. outside_lines
+1 Honestly, it's about anticipating the next three steps before anyone even asks. benjvh
+1 If they’re the same as UK questions then I’ve got them. But it’ll cost ya you squid alexcokke
+1 Don’t know too much about your situation… but many of my coworkers who left my old bank to other banks told me how much of a difference switching has made. If you’re at a small shop, maybe a larger bank will be better. ImagineSisyphusHappy
+1 You gotta get so hard Five Star Man
+1 Bump FreshCapone
+1 Depends what you're optimising for: If you want exit opps, go for GS.  If you want a Long-term career, go for CVP.  (I spent time at one of the two shops) Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 CVP.  momonke
+1 Take all of this with a huge grain of salt, as I did not do this. Analyst 1 in Consulting
+1 you're already a step ahead of your peers just by simply admitting "i'm confused"  fragestellung
+1 It's the same at both shops, tbh. Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 As for disadvantage for getting into the MSc? Maybe only slightly but not really. Your biggest disadvantage will be the lack of experience when you apply for jobs. Intern in S&T - Other
+1 You'll need to love it if you want to grind >60+hrs a week at something and still have something meaningful at the end of it all...working that many hours a week will demand a lot of sacrifices. The Penguin
+1 No not yet.  bankermn_1
+1 Valid - here's the info: ~5 years in fintech S&O in Canada, finance Undergrad at average/slightly above average cGPA, CFA. Havent written GRE yet, aiming for 320-325 range. FinnesseGod
+1 Bro, that's literally every single post you make... Abusement Park
+1 Corporate Banking seems great for the 50+ year old cohort that doesn't do much other than "maintain relationships". No clue what the comp is but I assume it's pretty nice for the work/life balance?  Mr Balloon Hands
+1 Yes, that is right.  FIG & Real Estate are lean as there are very few new players in FIG (banks / insurers) and RE (REITs, Sponsors) Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 People will shit on whatever you do so it doesn't matter. If you gather the opinions of 8 billion people on Earth, the consensus will be that all professions and all jobs suck. GS under Blankfein
+1 This sounds like an S&T conduit position that some banks have. Is it a permanent role or a transition role i.e. do you eventually do something else? Because it doesn't sound like a role with growth. nutmegger189
+1 I'm from Phoenix and did my undergrad at ASU. The real estate job market is just generally less institutional there. wallherder
+1 Since this is off topic I assume stuff not finance related is ok. I built a jev powered workflow to QC a relatively complicated product. m_1
+1 they don't go above and beyond and give you timelines like this for "polite rejections".  As a final round candidate I was ghosted or given feedback at most Intern in IB - Cov
+1 GP-led for sure, LP-Led is an admin role, setting up a data room and calls.  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Anyone hear anything else? tsunami-man
+1 Are you saying this based on your estimates of how much AI is being used by each individual or is IT actually tracking token spend? Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 got rej from spd this morning Intern in IB - Cov
+1 Lmfao nutmegger189
+1 Guy is a total POS Rick Kane
+1 Because those are groups that lend to companies via the bank's balance sheet i.e. corporate/commercial banking. koby
+1 Curious why? I am considering same thing. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Managing up is the corporate skill of being able to successfully tell your seniors when they are being unreasonable without explicitly telling them that. VP in PE - LBOs
+1 t10 but not finalist, we'll take it tho thecenter
+1 Truthtolight or OP right? Associate 2 in IB - Gen
+1 Hi man, I know this was ages ago but just wanted to say thank you for this. Ended up tanking Citadel but it was great practice and gave me a lot more confidence for assessment centres going forward. big_gilg
+1 You have to be a complete and absolute retard to post the same thing 5 other people have said in hopes of getting likes Developer in RE - Comm
+1 Dr. Rahma DikhinmahasYep agree with this. Two reads/follows I'd recommend: Ozymandia
+1 Deal-contingent FX hedging.  Count WACCula
+1 keep the prior experience - banks screen as much for character as direct exposure. alexcokke
+1 Intern in Risk Mnmgt pilotamd24
+1 Dream job for 50+ cohort. Hours aren’t bad, I’ve had slow weeks that only required 30 hours and busy weeks where 75 was necessary. I’d say it averages about 50-55 a week. accidentalanalyst