12/4/12

My laptop just gave up. I'm looking to buy an iPad anyway so I was wondering in addition, what would be the best laptop to buy right now?

I was thinking the Macbook Pro but with me getting an iPad anyway, I just dont think its worth spending upwards of $2k.

I'm looking to spend between $1000-1500. Would be great to hear some ideas.

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12/2/12

For the love of God dont get a Mac. You could get such a great PC for the price of one of those things.

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12/3/12

Art.Vandelay:
For the love of God dont get a Mac. You could get such a great PC for the price of one of those things.

Seconded.

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12/2/12

Just what I was thinking but I have been using a PC for years. Maybe I need a change. I cant think of any real good Windows laptops right now anyway.

12/2/12

BoxerRebeller:
Just what I was thinking but I have been using a PC for years. Maybe I need a change. I cant think of any real good Windows laptops right now anyway.

Depends on what you want to do. Watch videos? Fuck around on the internet? Take pictures? Use the mouse a lot? Mac is your scene. Use your computer for things other than fucking around? PC.

As for which PC, there is one easy choice: Thinkpad. It costs more but its performance is unrivaled in my experience.

12/3/12

labanker:
BoxerRebeller:
Just what I was thinking but I have been using a PC for years. Maybe I need a change. I cant think of any real good Windows laptops right now anyway.

Depends on what you want to do. Watch videos? Fuck around on the internet? Take pictures? Use the mouse a lot? Mac is your scene. Use your computer for things other than fucking around? PC.

As for which PC, there is one easy choice: Thinkpad. It costs more but its performance is unrivaled in my experience.

General really. I think a combination of the two. If I have an iPad, I dont think i really need a Mac. Definitely noted Lenovo as one of my choices. Thanks.

12/3/12

You really can't go wrong with these three laptops.

1) SONY VAIO Z Series ($1,500)

2) Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon ($1,100)

3) DELL XPS 13 ($1,000)

12/2/12

I just got a Dell Precision... it's on the thick side but it's pretty powerful and built really tough. Lenovo Thinkpads and HP Elitebooks are in the same (business) class. I was using my dad's Samsung Chronos series and it was pretty nice, that's an ultrabook.

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12/2/12

wolverine19x89:
I just got a Dell Precision... it's on the thick side but it's pretty powerful and built really tough.

Thick side? That thing is like a brief case with buttons haha.
12/2/12

I've had a very nasty experience with a Dell laptop (screen went black permanently), still have a bad taste in my mouth. Their quality has deteriorated in the last few years, they used to be quite solid back in the day. Maybe consider Toshiba or Lenovo. I have a high end Acer desktop and it's awesome, so maybe give their notebooks a whirl. Obviously not a Macbook, unless you're a closet hipster who wants to sit there pretending to write some garbage paper on literary theory, or an old grandma who doesn't know where the any key is.

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12/2/12

Going Concern:
I've had a very nasty experience with a Dell laptop (screen went black permanently), still have a bad taste in my mouth. Their quality has deteriorated in the last few years, they used to be quite solid back in the day.

I've seen this affect happen across the board of computer manufacturers, HP in particular.

The two biggest problems with laptops these days are 1) crashing hard drives, and 2) flimsy screens.

They fixed problem #1 with SSDs, but it's hard to find a decent screen on a laptop.

12/3/12

BTbanker:
Going Concern:
I've had a very nasty experience with a Dell laptop (screen went black permanently), still have a bad taste in my mouth. Their quality has deteriorated in the last few years, they used to be quite solid back in the day.

I've seen this affect happen across the board of computer manufacturers, HP in particular.

The two biggest problems with laptops these days are 1) crashing hard drives, and 2) flimsy screens.

They fixed problem #1 with SSDs, but it's hard to find a decent screen on a laptop.

One of the problems on my current Dell and the only problem of my Vaio before that. Machine still works but the screen is completely dead.

12/2/12

i'm a big fan of asus. quality machines.

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12/4/12

WalMartShopper:
i'm a big fan of asus. quality machines.

Agreed. Best and most resilient laptop I've ever owned.

12/4/12

WalMartShopper:
i'm a big fan of asus. quality machines.

Seconded. Had my ASUS for about two years now and it still runs great and hasn't given me any problems. Every piece of hardware I have bought from ASUS has been quality. I don't have a lot of brand loyalty in general but ASUS is one of the few I will rec to people without hesitation.

This to all my hatin' folks seeing me getting guac right now..

12/4/12

I snagged a G75VW from best buy as a floor model for 700 bucks. I'm a cheapo but from now on will spend the extra dough for an ASUS.

Cruncharoo:
WalMartShopper:
i'm a big fan of asus. quality machines.

Seconded. Had my ASUS for about two years now and it still runs great and hasn't given me any problems. Every piece of hardware I have bought from ASUS has been quality. I don't have a lot of brand loyalty in general but ASUS is one of the few I will rec to people without hesitation.

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12/2/12

Probably go with Lenovo or ASUS.

I've been looking around recently and haven't pulled the trigger yet, but I really like the Lenovo Ideapad U410. In my mind, it's not too big, not too small and not too heavy. It isn't the lightest of ultrabooks, but I can't bring myself to care about a few tenths of a pound. Additionally, they have a discrete graphics card, which many ultrabooks don't have, so that feels like a huge plus. The biggest drawbacks seem to be an average resolution screen, so nothing super great or HD and a keyboard that isn't backlit. Those are both things I think I can live without, so I will probably be picking one up pretty soon.

This is a pretty good deal right now...
http://www.adorama.com/LE59351627.html?utm_term=Ot...

It was actually about $50 cheaper a couple days ago, but still easily falls under your expected price range. I was out of town and not able to buy it, so I missed out on the better pricing. Because I don't need a new PC right now, I'm going to wait and see if I can catch it on sale as we slowly approach Christmas.

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12/2/12

cphbravo96:
Probably go with Lenovo or ASUS.

I've been looking around recently and haven't pulled the trigger yet, but I really like the Lenovo Ideapad U410. In my mind, it's not too big, not too small and not too heavy. It isn't the lightest of ultrabooks, but I can't bring myself to care about a few tenths of a pound. Additionally, they have a discrete graphics card, which many ultrabooks don't have, so that feels like a huge plus. The biggest drawbacks seem to be an average resolution screen, so nothing super great or HD and a keyboard that isn't backlit. Those are both things I think I can live without, so I will probably be picking one up pretty soon.

This is a pretty good deal right now...
http://www.adorama.com/LE59351627.html?utm_term=Ot...

It was actually about $50 cheaper a couple days ago, but still easily falls under your expected price range. I was out of town and not able to buy it, so I missed out on the better pricing. Because I don't need a new PC right now, I'm going to wait and see if I can catch it on sale as we slowly approach Christmas.

Regards


The ThinkPad X1 Carbon is definitely my favorite Lenovo right now. I'm thinking of getting that one.
http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/laptop/thinkpad/...
12/2/12

BTbanker:

The ThinkPad X1 Carbon is definitely my favorite Lenovo right now. I'm thinking of getting that one.
http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/laptop/thinkpad/...

That looks pretty good. Approximately a billion times better than some slimy idiot box made by a company named after a fruit.

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12/3/12

cphbravo96:
Probably go with Lenovo or ASUS.

I've been looking around recently and haven't pulled the trigger yet, but I really like the Lenovo Ideapad U410. In my mind, it's not too big, not too small and not too heavy. It isn't the lightest of ultrabooks, but I can't bring myself to care about a few tenths of a pound. Additionally, they have a discrete graphics card, which many ultrabooks don't have, so that feels like a huge plus. The biggest drawbacks seem to be an average resolution screen, so nothing super great or HD and a keyboard that isn't backlit. Those are both things I think I can live without, so I will probably be picking one up pretty soon.

This is a pretty good deal right now...
http://www.adorama.com/LE59351627.html?utm_term=Ot...

It was actually about $50 cheaper a couple days ago, but still easily falls under your expected price range. I was out of town and not able to buy it, so I missed out on the better pricing. Because I don't need a new PC right now, I'm going to wait and see if I can catch it on sale as we slowly approach Christmas.

Regards

Thanks! Looks great. You reckon it may be even cheaper come Christmas?

12/3/12

BoxerRebeller:
Thanks! Looks great. You reckon it may be even cheaper come Christmas?

Honestly, it's really hard to say. Truth is, I should probably just buy it at the current price, since it's only $50 higher than the 'sale' price last week, but when I went to the Lenovo website and saw what the similarly spec'd version sells for retail, I realizes this was deeply discounted already.

In the month leading up to Black Friday, the U410s were selling for $600-$650 at a few places, but those were i5 processors, not i7 and they were all running Windows 7 Pro, not Windows 8 Home Premium. In theory you would be paying an 'extra' $100 bucks for the updated version of Windows and the better processor, which is probably a steal compared to the difference you would have to pay if you built it that way.

Microsoft was offering upgrades for $15 from Windows 7 to Windows 8...which I believe would work with the equivalent version of what you had, so 7 Pro to 8 Pro, or 7 Home to 8 Home. Interestingly enough, the cost to go from Home to Pro is about $60.

Additionally, one of the deals was through the Microsoft Store which, as some else pointed out, removes all the extra crap that manufacturers put on there. Not having that isn't going to be a deal breaker for me, but that mixed with the fact that I don't need a new laptop right now and the potential for sales in the coming weeks has convinced me to wait it out and see if I can snag a better deal. Chances are it will only be $50 or so but what can I say, I got a little IP in me.

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12/3/12

I can give you only one advice. Stay away from Acer!

12/3/12

I'm seconding the Lenovo ThinkPad. Solid as a rock, subtle and professional, great reputation, and some serious processing power. The new X1 Carbon looks good.

12/3/12

Samsung ultrabook series 9. It's basically the Samsungs rip off the macbook air. But I don't care because its simply amazing. Got it for about 1100 bucks. If you go to the Microsoft Store, they remove all the bloatware that the manufacturer puts in.

Best laptop I have ever had and I have gone through many.

12/3/12

Samsung Series 9 is sexy as all hell and durable. A similar device for slightly less is the HP Envy series. I have an Envy 15 (2011 release version) and it is gorgeous and works beautifully. Intel i7 core, 8 gigs of RAM, and the optional Radiance display is heavenly - extremely bright and pushes to 1980x1080 on a 15-inch laptop. That in itself is awesome.

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12/3/12

chicandtoughness:
Samsung Series 9 is sexy as all hell and durable. A similar device for slightly less is the HP Envy series. I have an Envy 15 (2011 release version) and it is gorgeous and works beautifully. Intel i7 core, 8 gigs of RAM, and the optional Radiance display is heavenly - extremely bright and pushes to 1980x1080 on a 15-inch laptop. That in itself is awesome.

I like the Envy too but I feel I am getting too much of the Mac in it. And considering the prices of the Envy range, its probably best to get a Mac.

12/3/12

BoxerRebeller:
I like the Envy too but I feel I am getting too much of the Mac in it. And considering the prices of the Envy range, its probably best to get a Mac.

I don't think there's anyone who believes that the Envy didn't totally rip off the Mac. They redid the line, though, so it's a little less Mac-looking (I still have people who think otherwise). Still think it's a bit more robust than a Macbook, but my primary reason for favouring HP's high-end line (it's actually now the Spectre, and the Envy has dropped down to a ugly-as-hell line that looks like it time travelled from 2007) is my refusal to use OS X. Nope, I will never like it and don't want to take the effort to 1) reinstall an OS, and 2) strip a laptop of one of the things that makes it so damn expensive in the first place.

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12/4/12

chicandtoughness:
BoxerRebeller:
I like the Envy too but I feel I am getting too much of the Mac in it. And considering the prices of the Envy range, its probably best to get a Mac.

I don't think there's anyone who believes that the Envy didn't totally rip off the Mac. They redid the line, though, so it's a little less Mac-looking (I still have people who think otherwise). Still think it's a bit more robust than a Macbook, but my primary reason for favouring HP's high-end line (it's actually now the Spectre, and the Envy has dropped down to a ugly-as-hell line that looks like it time travelled from 2007) is my refusal to use OS X. Nope, I will never like it and don't want to take the effort to 1) reinstall an OS, and 2) strip a laptop of one of the things that makes it so damn expensive in the first place.

HPs look fantastic, but I will probably never buy another one. This probably goes for every computer manufacturer out there, but I've personally seen the quality of HPs deteriorate over the last 4 years. The first HP I owned lasted 3 years, but the second died after just 1 year for no reason at all.

Apple has the right idea with a unibody aluminum design, but their software is dog shit. For everyone who runs Windows on a mac, the performance is terrible since they aren't meant to do that, and you're still left with a useless keyboard. HP seems to be leading everyone in copying Apple's design, but their plastic material, and sub par internal components aren't what their price point suggests.

Somebody rip apart a Macbook Pro Retina, optimize it for Windows 8, slap a Microsoft keyboard in there, and price it at $1,000. Then call me.

12/3/12

I'm on my 4th straight Lenovo and haven't had any major problems. Only reason I had so many is that my last job got me a new one every year. When I left I bought another. If it ain't broke, why fix it?

12/3/12

Looks like Lenovo's are badass. I was choosing between a Lenovo W530 or a Dell Precision M4700 and went with the Dell cause I was able to talk the price down quite a bit more with Dell than I was with Lenovo.... call them when you order it and try to haggle them down if you want, I got a couple hundred off the initial price and a $115 gift card.

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12/3/12

Lenovo is hands down the most durable thing you can buy, and will be a great work laptop. That said, I can't imagine doing anything media-intensive on a Lenovo and I'm personally not a fan of their form factor. I think for 1-1.5k you can afford something slightly more flashy, haha.

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12/3/12

Sony Vaio Z needs more love in here. Best screen hands down and don't underestimate the Integrated graphics cards these days as well. My 3 year old Z can run Starcraft 2 handily with an integrated, but on video benchmarking tests on my friends new Z, it matches up really well.

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12/3/12

I suggest the Lenovo W530 mobile workstation. Durable and extremely fast. You can get a fully loaded W530 for $3-4k if your work is paying for it and I like it so much I am using it as my personal computer as well!

12/3/12

Buy something cheap for ~ $600, use it for a couple of years and throw it away.

12/3/12

captainradio:
Buy something cheap for ~ $600, use it for a couple of years and throw it away.

Did that with my current Dell.

12/3/12

I would definitely suggest looking at the Sony Vaio Z series. Fast, powerful, and very sleek looking. Don't have any complaints with mine so far.

12/3/12

BusinessSense:
I would definitely suggest looking at the Sony Vaio Z series. Fast, powerful, and very sleek looking. Don't have any complaints with mine so far.

Had a Vaio before, was a great machine. Just worried about the screens. Mine gave up and I've heard thats a problem with their new products too.

12/3/12

While you all discuss whats good or not. You could just get an Apple Macbook Air and be done with it, knowing it will last and work well.

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12/3/12

yeahright:
While you all discuss whats good or not. You could just get an Apple Macbook Air and be done with it, knowing it will last and work well.

Sounds great, assuming you don't need to use excel.

12/3/12

TechBanking:
yeahright:
While you all discuss whats good or not. You could just get an Apple Macbook Air and be done with it, knowing it will last and work well.

Sounds great, assuming you don't need to use excel.

What....

Microsoft Office for Mac 2011....

Do all college students that buy Macs not use excel then? What about all the private prep schools that now require macs? They dont use excel either right?

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12/3/12

yeahright:
TechBanking:
yeahright:
While you all discuss whats good or not. You could just get an Apple Macbook Air and be done with it, knowing it will last and work well.

Sounds great, assuming you don't need to use excel.

What....

Microsoft Office for Mac 2011....

Do all college students that buy Macs not use excel then? What about all the private prep schools that now require macs? They dont use excel either right?

Excel 2011 has notable limitations in its VBA functionality. For my purposes, the major limitation that I've come across is its lack of the object FileSystemObject. Without it, it's quite difficult to create any truly robust applications (i.e. anything involving inputs and outputs). If someone is just using Excel for traditional data input and editing, the Mac version will serve its purpose. But if programming capabilites might be required, I think it's safer just to get the full-blown PC version.

12/3/12

From my personal experience don't get Lenovo. The thinkpad line is utter crap when IBM sold it to Lenovo. Back in the day I had a T61 and a T40 before that and both of the were workhorses with high battery life, great keyboard and I could play most games on ultra setting. When I got my T500 (the first thinkpads that were of Lenovo and not IBM design) it was garbage. The motherboard went bad after 5 months and had to be replaced, after a year the battery couldn't hold a charge and to compound the problem the graphics card died around the same time also. Never again.

12/3/12

bearing:
From my personal experience don't get Lenovo. The thinkpad line is utter crap when IBM sold it to Lenovo. Back in the day I had a T61 and a T40 before that and both of the were workhorses with high battery life, great keyboard and I could play most games on ultra setting. When I got my T500 (the first thinkpads that were of Lenovo and not IBM design) it was garbage. The motherboard went bad after 5 months and had to be replaced, after a year the battery couldn't hold a charge and to compound the problem the graphics card died around the same time also. Never again.

What are you using now?

12/3/12

Got a Lenovo Thinkpad back in 2008 and was very happy with it. I've moved on to a Sager now though. It all comes down to what you plan on doing with it.

12/3/12

Dying's For Fools:
Got a Lenovo Thinkpad back in 2008 and was very happy with it. I've moved on to a Sager now though. It all comes down to what you plan on doing with it.

With my ignorance, I've never heard of the Sager..shed some light?

12/4/12

BoxerRebeller:
Dying's For Fools:
Got a Lenovo Thinkpad back in 2008 and was very happy with it. I've moved on to a Sager now though. It all comes down to what you plan on doing with it.

With my ignorance, I've never heard of the Sager..shed some light?

Sager is the American name of Clevo systems. Sager is a boutique company that makes higher-end gaming computers. Probably not what you're looking for.

12/3/12

I don't understand the hate for Macbook in this thread. I have a MacBook Air and I love it. Besides, whoever said you don't have access to Microsoft Excel on Macbook is seriously misinformed... for what it's worth, I have everything Microsoft-related on my laptop, even Windows. (yes, u can run Windows as an alt option on Mac)

At work, I use my company laptop and when I am home or when Im travelling I use my Macbook Air. It's fast, super light, easy to carry, easy on the eye, good for surfing the net, very ideal for watching movies, taking pictures, playing games, etc.

At the end of the day, unless you are a software engineer, you really don't need something so technologically advanced. Just get a laptop that is within your budget, and the one you like the best.

12/3/12

IvyGrad:
I don't understand the hate for Macbook in this thread. I have a MacBook Air and I love it. Besides, whoever said you don't have access to Microsoft Excel on Macbook is seriously misinformed... for what it's worth, I have everything Microsoft-related on my laptop, even Windows. (yes, u can run Windows as an alt option on Mac)

At work, I use my company laptop and when I am home or when Im travelling I use my Macbook Air. It's fast, super light, easy to carry, easy on the eye, good for surfing the net, very ideal for watching movies, taking pictures, playing games, etc.

At the end of the day, unless you are a software engineer, you really don't need something so technologically advanced. Just get a laptop that is within your budget, and the one you like the best.

Umm, no...you are misinformed. Excel on Macbook is lacking in a number of ways that annoy the crap out of any legit power user. It isn't the same program with the same level of functionality. Yes, you could run full Windows through a virtualization service, like VMware, but that seems like a bit much to just get Apple hardware.

12/3/12

I've had a dell vostro 1220 laptop (small, easy for transport) for almsot 3 years now with no issues and it's pretty damn fast (4gb ram) and was pretty cheap at ~$700...i just hook it up to a large monitor, keyboard, mouse when I'm home.

That being said, I think I will go with a 16GB of RAM since I now find myself running ~4-6 programs at a time and I hate closing stuff. I usually have ~20 tabs+ open and spotify playing, Word, Adobe, FF, Chrome, Skype+ random open all at the same time.

12/3/12

WallStreetOasis.com:
I've had a dell vostro 1220 laptop (small, easy for transport) for almsot 3 years now with no issues and it's pretty damn fast (4gb ram) and was pretty cheap at ~$700...i just hook it up to a large monitor, keyboard, mouse when I'm home.

That being said, I think I will go with a 16GB of RAM since I now find myself running ~4-6 programs at a time and I hate closing stuff. I usually have ~20 tabs+ open and spotify playing, Word, Adobe, FF, Chrome, Skype+ random open all at the same time.

I'm exactly the same. I hate closing stuff and constantly leave it on sleep. I think bigger RAM then my current 4gb is a definite.

12/3/12

it may be better cost-wise to get a laptop with a little bit of ram and buy extra ram and upgrade it yourself

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12/3/12

If you're using your laptop for Internet and Media, Mac is pretty solid (disregarding the dreamy price tag). If you're using it for anything else in any serious way, you're SOL. I own a macbook.

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12/3/12

Thanks everyone for their help. I'm likely getting one of the new Vaios, the X1 or a Macbook. I need something with a bigger RAM and speed. I dont envisage needing a laptop for work so the added bits is unnecessary for me.

Another Dell is out of the question and something small (i.e. 12-inch) isnt really practical for me although I do like the fact that its light and portable. I think the Lenovo's are pretty sweet but something about them screams avoid. the X1 does look great however.

What does everyone think about the Envy series? I do like them but they are pretty pricey for essentially a Macbook rip-off? Anyone with Windows 8 at the moment? Never tried so interested in views. Also ASUS seems decent value.

12/3/12

I'm thinking about getting a mac book air. I know people say Macs are overpriced but I see them as a worthwhile. just my .02

12/4/12

Nerd time.

My rec:
Lenovo Y580

Hard specs: 8gb RAM,1TB HDD + 32GB SSD, GTX660M, IB i7
Soft specs: backlit keyboard, 1920x1080 15.6", JBL speakers

Pros: With above specs, it's easily one of the top of the line models at the $1k-$1.1k budget
More important pro: with these specs you can beat off to models in style (Excel and female)
Cons: 5400RPM, i7-3630 and GeForce great but not fantastic

12/4/12

BanditPandit:
Nerd time.

My rec:
Lenovo Y580

Hard specs: 8gb RAM,1TB HDD + 32GB SSD, GTX660M, IB i7
Soft specs: backlit keyboard, 1920x1080 15.6", JBL speakers

Pros: With above specs, it's easily one of the top of the line models at the $1k-$1.1k budget
More important pro: with these specs you can beat off to models in style (Excel and female)
Cons: 5400RPM, i7-3630 and GeForce great but not fantastic

If you want a touch better on the graphics side, maybe check out the Toshiba Qosmio X870-BT3G23. Pretty similar specs and same 1100 price after online rebates but you get 670M instead of the 660M.

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12/4/12

Going Concern:
BanditPandit:
Nerd time.

My rec:
Lenovo Y580

Hard specs: 8gb RAM,1TB HDD + 32GB SSD, GTX660M, IB i7
Soft specs: backlit keyboard, 1920x1080 15.6", JBL speakers

Pros: With above specs, it's easily one of the top of the line models at the $1k-$1.1k budget
More important pro: with these specs you can beat off to models in style (Excel and female)
Cons: 5400RPM, i7-3630 and GeForce great but not fantastic

If you want a touch better on the graphics side, maybe check out the Toshiba Qosmio X870-BT3G23. Pretty similar specs and same 1100 price after online rebates but you get 670M instead of the 660M.

That's a good point. I think the Toshiba is the 17" right? Personally I like the 15.6 as the 17 starts getting bulky - to each his own. I also like the y580 over the thinkpads because you won't have the "work" computer aesthetics and feel (yes these things do matter, esp since he brought up the Macbook to start). If OP wants strictly for work, then Thinkpad forsure. If OP wants a work/entertainment balance, the y580 package was a good fit imo

edit: the model in reference is the y580 20994nu

12/4/12

BanditPandit:
Going Concern:
BanditPandit:
Nerd time.

My rec:
Lenovo Y580

Hard specs: 8gb RAM,1TB HDD + 32GB SSD, GTX660M, IB i7
Soft specs: backlit keyboard, 1920x1080 15.6", JBL speakers

Pros: With above specs, it's easily one of the top of the line models at the $1k-$1.1k budget
More important pro: with these specs you can beat off to models in style (Excel and female)
Cons: 5400RPM, i7-3630 and GeForce great but not fantastic

If you want a touch better on the graphics side, maybe check out the Toshiba Qosmio X870-BT3G23. Pretty similar specs and same 1100 price after online rebates but you get 670M instead of the 660M.

That's a good point. I think the Toshiba is the 17" right? Personally I like the 15.6 as the 17 starts getting bulky - to each his own.

Yeah, your boy also has a slightly better screen res. To be fair though, my little guy is Japanese, and your little guy is a Chinese-American hybrid...so there's that.

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12/4/12

BanditPandit:

More important pro: with these specs you can beat off to models in style (Excel and female)
Cons: 5400RPM, i7-3630 and GeForce great but not fantastic

When I'm loading up the "E" I want to do so in style with the ThinkPad X1. I'll be damned if it's with a 4" thick reinforced plastic brick.
12/4/12

BanditPandit:
Nerd time.

My rec:
Lenovo Y580

Hard specs: 8gb RAM,1TB HDD + 32GB SSD, GTX660M, IB i7
Soft specs: backlit keyboard, 1920x1080 15.6", JBL speakers

Pros: With above specs, it's easily one of the top of the line models at the $1k-$1.1k budget
More important pro: with these specs you can beat off to models in style (Excel and female)
Cons: 5400RPM, i7-3630 and GeForce great but not fantastic

I saw this model go on sale a few times over the last couple months, so make sure you check all the known 'deal' websites if you decide those specs fit what you are looking for.

Additional 'cons' might be its weight and that it's less portable than other laptops in that price range.

Regards

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12/4/12

Lenovo Thinkpad.

12/4/12

rpc:
Lenovo Thinkpad.

That's a work horse. No one wants to think about work when they're watching a movie at home on their laptop, damn... haha

You don't need to spend $1000, $400-500 will get you a great laptop from HP. If you want high performance, cyber PC ive heard is good.

12/4/12

i did a lot of research and ended up getting the HP Envy for about $1600.

Money Never Sleeps? More like Money Never SUCKS amirite?!?!?!?

12/4/12

sayandarula:
i did a lot of research and ended up getting the HP Envy for about $1600.

All I can say is Godspeed.
12/4/12

sayandarula:
i did a lot of research and ended up getting the HP Envy for about $1600.

Which I take to mean you got one before they ended up becoming shitty. I've had my Envy 15 for a year and it still works beautifully. Prior to that I had a Presario for 6 years. Never failed me (and actually still works).

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12/4/12

I'm too lazy to count how many times Vaio was suggested, so:

GET A VAIO. I've had mine for close to 4 years now, and it runs as perfectly as the day I bought it. You may pay more than some other brands, but it's entirely worth it. The quality is top-notch.

12/4/12

I think you shouldn't get an ipad especially if you have an iphone. My 64 gb has been collecting dust since I got it as a gift

12/4/12

try to get a good warranty on it too... my brother had an accidental warranty on his and when it was about to expire he just smashed it and got a new one for free after a couple years.

go to notebookreview.com and ask some people there. I was basically told HP Elitebook/Lenovo Thinkpad/Dell Precision for the amount of money I was willing to spend but they (and my CS professor) really just stressed getting a computer from a company with a good warranty and fast repairs

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12/4/12

If you want one for work and don't care much for gaming etc. go for "Ultrabooks". ASUS Zenbook is the most impressive ultrabook on the market today.

12/4/12

For 95% of PC users it would be enough to purchase a solid notebook in the 500-800 range...
But most people for lots of unknown words and functions and go beyond 1500+

12/4/12

I'm a bit surprised at the lack of Apple support, and this is coming from someone who can't stand using OS X, Mac keyboards, or iTunes. Apple is the only company that consistently understands customer needs and does not make sacrifices.

While most notebook manufacturers have switched to cheaper 16:9 screens and offer paltry resolutions like 1366x768, Apple has stuck to the far more usable 16:10 aspect ratio and offers resolutions of up 2560x1600 or 2880x1800 on their 13" and 15" models, respectively (read: that means you can view more Excel cells). 16:9 is frustratingly useless on a computer because the vast majority of content is vertically oriented. The extra 10% of vertical space doesn't sound like much, but it makes a big difference when you're already working on such a small screen.

I find it hard to believe that so many people are willing to spend $800-1200 on a piece of hardware and then choose to interact with it using the same TN panel screens found on budget laptops and $100 "HDTVs." It's like buying a new car with the steering wheel and pedals of a worn out 70s junker.

At least Apple is design oriented and actually understands how people interact with devices. Yes, unfortunately their products are overpriced relative to the hardware. Also unfortunately, no other company produces notebooks with similar specs.

BTbanker:

Apple has the right idea with a unibody aluminum design, but their software is dog shit. For everyone who runs Windows on a mac, the performance is terrible since they aren't meant to do that, and you're still left with a useless keyboard.

Macs have the same processors, motherboards, RAM, SSDs etc. found in PCs so how would they perform worse in Windows?

12/4/12

kobalt:

BTbanker:

Apple has the right idea with a unibody aluminum design, but their software is dog shit. For everyone who runs Windows on a mac, the performance is terrible since they aren't meant to do that, and you're still left with a useless keyboard.

Macs have the same processors, motherboards, RAM, SSDs etc. found in PCs so how would they perform worse in Windows?

The problem is Apple's Boot Camp, which is the only supported way to run Windows directly on Apple hardware. The Apple-supplied drivers are substandard, and they don't allow Windows to take full advantage of the underlying hardware. Tests show that battery life is cut in half, but this impact on disk and graphics subsystem performance isn't Apple's fault. They obviously don't want people using Windows, and I wouldn't recommend it. Just get a PC, and save money.

12/4/12

BTbanker:
kobalt:

BTbanker:

Apple has the right idea with a unibody aluminum design, but their software is dog shit. For everyone who runs Windows on a mac, the performance is terrible since they aren't meant to do that, and you're still left with a useless keyboard.

Macs have the same processors, motherboards, RAM, SSDs etc. found in PCs so how would they perform worse in Windows?

The problem is Apple's Boot Camp, which is the only supported way to run Windows directly on Apple hardware. The Apple-supplied drivers are substandard, and they don't allow Windows to take full advantage of the underlying hardware. Tests show that battery life is cut in half, but this impact on disk and graphics subsystem performance isn't Apple's fault. They obviously don't want people using Windows, and I wouldn't recommend it. Just get a PC, and save money.


Have you ever used a Mac? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

I'm not sure what you mean by "supported way to run Windows", but there are virtualized solutions like VMWare and Parallels that allow you to run Windows SEAMLESSLY side-by-side in OS X. If you're buying a MacBook (be it Air or Pro) with a solid-state drive, Windows will fly in VMWare or Parallels. Being that in finance you only need Windows for Excel, PPT, and maybe Matlab and Word or something like that -- using VMWare will be more than sufficient. So, no, you don't have to reboot the damn thing every time you need to fire up Excel. But I will concede that Excel for Mac blows.

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12/4/12

DonVon:
BTbanker:
kobalt:

BTbanker:

Apple has the right idea with a unibody aluminum design, but their software is dog shit. For everyone who runs Windows on a mac, the performance is terrible since they aren't meant to do that, and you're still left with a useless keyboard.

Macs have the same processors, motherboards, RAM, SSDs etc. found in PCs so how would they perform worse in Windows?

The problem is Apple's Boot Camp, which is the only supported way to run Windows directly on Apple hardware. The Apple-supplied drivers are substandard, and they don't allow Windows to take full advantage of the underlying hardware. Tests show that battery life is cut in half, but this impact on disk and graphics subsystem performance isn't Apple's fault. They obviously don't want people using Windows, and I wouldn't recommend it. Just get a PC, and save money.


Have you ever used a Mac? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

I'm not sure what you mean by "supported way to run Windows", but there are virtualized solutions like VMWare and Parallels that allow you to run Windows SEAMLESSLY side-by-side in OS X. If you're buying a MacBook (be it Air or Pro) with a solid-state drive, Windows will fly in VMWare or Parallels. Being that in finance you only need Windows for Excel, PPT, and maybe Matlab and Word or something like that -- using VMWare will be more than sufficient. So, no, you don't have to reboot the damn thing every time you need to fire up Excel. But I will concede that Excel for Mac blows.


For one small payment of $1,700 (Mac) + $80 (Parallels) + $200 (Windows 7/8) + $120 (MS Office)... all the while, "Excel for Mac blows".
12/4/12

BTbanker:
DonVon:
BTbanker:
kobalt:

BTbanker:

Apple has the right idea with a unibody aluminum design, but their software is dog shit. For everyone who runs Windows on a mac, the performance is terrible since they aren't meant to do that, and you're still left with a useless keyboard.

Macs have the same processors, motherboards, RAM, SSDs etc. found in PCs so how would they perform worse in Windows?

The problem is Apple's Boot Camp, which is the only supported way to run Windows directly on Apple hardware. The Apple-supplied drivers are substandard, and they don't allow Windows to take full advantage of the underlying hardware. Tests show that battery life is cut in half, but this impact on disk and graphics subsystem performance isn't Apple's fault. They obviously don't want people using Windows, and I wouldn't recommend it. Just get a PC, and save money.


Have you ever used a Mac? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

I'm not sure what you mean by "supported way to run Windows", but there are virtualized solutions like VMWare and Parallels that allow you to run Windows SEAMLESSLY side-by-side in OS X. If you're buying a MacBook (be it Air or Pro) with a solid-state drive, Windows will fly in VMWare or Parallels. Being that in finance you only need Windows for Excel, PPT, and maybe Matlab and Word or something like that -- using VMWare will be more than sufficient. So, no, you don't have to reboot the damn thing every time you need to fire up Excel. But I will concede that Excel for Mac blows.


For one small payment of $1,700 (Mac) + $80 (Parallels) + $200 (Windows 7/8) + $120 (MS Office)... all the while, "Excel for Mac blows".

Yeah absolutely it is a more expensive option. But it all depends on one's priorities -- some like seamless integration across all of their Apple-branded devices, absolutely absurd screen resolutions, top-notch customer service, and the fact that Apple's major OS updates (ex. from Lion to Mountain Lion) are subsidized and cost $20-$30 instead of the usual $100 for a Windows OS upgrade. Some people also want to stay away from Windows 8, which has, in its short lifespan, become the boogeyman (and laughingstock) of operating systems. Some people will also pay a premium to use a computer system that has largely been unaffected by viruses, trojans, and keyloggers throughout the years. All depends on what you want, broseph.

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12/4/12

BTbanker:
DonVon:
BTbanker:
kobalt:

BTbanker:

Apple has the right idea with a unibody aluminum design, but their software is dog shit. For everyone who runs Windows on a mac, the performance is terrible since they aren't meant to do that, and you're still left with a useless keyboard.

Macs have the same processors, motherboards, RAM, SSDs etc. found in PCs so how would they perform worse in Windows?

The problem is Apple's Boot Camp, which is the only supported way to run Windows directly on Apple hardware. The Apple-supplied drivers are substandard, and they don't allow Windows to take full advantage of the underlying hardware. Tests show that battery life is cut in half, but this impact on disk and graphics subsystem performance isn't Apple's fault. They obviously don't want people using Windows, and I wouldn't recommend it. Just get a PC, and save money.


Have you ever used a Mac? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

I'm not sure what you mean by "supported way to run Windows", but there are virtualized solutions like VMWare and Parallels that allow you to run Windows SEAMLESSLY side-by-side in OS X. If you're buying a MacBook (be it Air or Pro) with a solid-state drive, Windows will fly in VMWare or Parallels. Being that in finance you only need Windows for Excel, PPT, and maybe Matlab and Word or something like that -- using VMWare will be more than sufficient. So, no, you don't have to reboot the damn thing every time you need to fire up Excel. But I will concede that Excel for Mac blows.


For one small payment of $1,700 (Mac) + $80 (Parallels) + $200 (Windows 7/8) + $120 (MS Office)... all the while, "Excel for Mac blows".

Why are you paying $1,700 for a mac? The air is pretty freaking phenomenal at base settings (maybe $100 more for the ram, but that's still $1,300).

12/4/12

canas15:
BTbanker:
DonVon:
BTbanker:
kobalt:

BTbanker:

Apple has the right idea with a unibody aluminum design, but their software is dog shit. For everyone who runs Windows on a mac, the performance is terrible since they aren't meant to do that, and you're still left with a useless keyboard.

Macs have the same processors, motherboards, RAM, SSDs etc. found in PCs so how would they perform worse in Windows?

The problem is Apple's Boot Camp, which is the only supported way to run Windows directly on Apple hardware. The Apple-supplied drivers are substandard, and they don't allow Windows to take full advantage of the underlying hardware. Tests show that battery life is cut in half, but this impact on disk and graphics subsystem performance isn't Apple's fault. They obviously don't want people using Windows, and I wouldn't recommend it. Just get a PC, and save money.


Have you ever used a Mac? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

I'm not sure what you mean by "supported way to run Windows", but there are virtualized solutions like VMWare and Parallels that allow you to run Windows SEAMLESSLY side-by-side in OS X. If you're buying a MacBook (be it Air or Pro) with a solid-state drive, Windows will fly in VMWare or Parallels. Being that in finance you only need Windows for Excel, PPT, and maybe Matlab and Word or something like that -- using VMWare will be more than sufficient. So, no, you don't have to reboot the damn thing every time you need to fire up Excel. But I will concede that Excel for Mac blows.


For one small payment of $1,700 (Mac) + $80 (Parallels) + $200 (Windows 7/8) + $120 (MS Office)... all the while, "Excel for Mac blows".

Why are you paying $1,700 for a mac? The air is pretty freaking phenomenal at base settings (maybe $100 more for the ram, but that's still $1,300).


I was referring to that new 13" retina one, but youre right, the 13" air is really all you need. Do you run parallels on yours? Also, I realize most people rob ably just download those 3 software for free.
12/4/12

BTbanker:
canas15:
BTbanker:
DonVon:
BTbanker:
kobalt:

BTbanker:

Apple has the right idea with a unibody aluminum design, but their software is dog shit. For everyone who runs Windows on a mac, the performance is terrible since they aren't meant to do that, and you're still left with a useless keyboard.

Macs have the same processors, motherboards, RAM, SSDs etc. found in PCs so how would they perform worse in Windows?

The problem is Apple's Boot Camp, which is the only supported way to run Windows directly on Apple hardware. The Apple-supplied drivers are substandard, and they don't allow Windows to take full advantage of the underlying hardware. Tests show that battery life is cut in half, but this impact on disk and graphics subsystem performance isn't Apple's fault. They obviously don't want people using Windows, and I wouldn't recommend it. Just get a PC, and save money.


Have you ever used a Mac? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

I'm not sure what you mean by "supported way to run Windows", but there are virtualized solutions like VMWare and Parallels that allow you to run Windows SEAMLESSLY side-by-side in OS X. If you're buying a MacBook (be it Air or Pro) with a solid-state drive, Windows will fly in VMWare or Parallels. Being that in finance you only need Windows for Excel, PPT, and maybe Matlab and Word or something like that -- using VMWare will be more than sufficient. So, no, you don't have to reboot the damn thing every time you need to fire up Excel. But I will concede that Excel for Mac blows.


For one small payment of $1,700 (Mac) + $80 (Parallels) + $200 (Windows 7/8) + $120 (MS Office)... all the while, "Excel for Mac blows".

Why are you paying $1,700 for a mac? The air is pretty freaking phenomenal at base settings (maybe $100 more for the ram, but that's still $1,300).


I was referring to that new 13" retina one, but youre right, the 13" air is really all you need. Do you run parallels on yours? Also, I realize most people rob ably just download those 3 software for free.

Ah. Yeah, I'm a big fan of the air, and that's probably what I'll switch to when I start working. Currently using my 2009 MacBook Pro; I actually don't use Excel that much since I'm more involved Math/Econometrics/some CS stuff at the moment. Generally R/MatLab and Vim cover all the software I need (with Terminal being used for compiling things). Parallels ran pretty well on my computer, so I'm sure it'd be awesome on something without a severely outdated processor.

On a funny note, my summer group actually wasn't very excel-ninja-y. They used it, but really did most of their work in R/Python and used integration programs to build spreadsheets.

12/4/12

Find MacBook Air copy (e.g. the Samsung ultrathins) that gets closest to MacBook Pro specs. Swap out what's left (e.g. HDD for SSD, or 128GB SSD for 256GB SSD) with the help if necessary of your local friendly teenage geek. You still have enough spare change for a week in Thailand. Dual boot Ubuntu/Windows.

NB: PowerPivot doesn't work on Mac. Very slow in the Mac version of Windows. You guys will understand with Excel 2013 :P

12/4/12

Ok, here's the deal, MOST PC COMPANIES OUTSOURCE FROM THE SAME ODMs. So whether you buy a dell, hp, lenovo, asus, etc its going to be made by Compal, Quanta, Wistron, Pegatron, etc. Not much difference so just get whatever specs meets your budget.

12/4/12

Just make sure you get a laptop with SSD. Absolutely no point in owning a laptop without SSD these days. It will be your entire bottleneck if you go the old 7.2k (or worse, 5.4k) rpm HDD route -- and a 7.2k rpm HDD can get warm, real warm. All laptops are essentially the same -- Lenovo has old-school but durable design, Samsung can be sexy, and Asus is solid as well -- as long as you have an SSD and at least a newish i5, you're in business. Emphasis on the SSD part. SSD.

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12/4/12

the new lenovos are amazing

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12/4/12

gonna agree with the SSD recommendation

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12/4/12

msoft surface?

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12/4/12

MacBook Air + 128GB SSD (256GB if you really want it but not necessary) + 4GB of RAM + VMWare + Windows 7 x64 = absolutely everything you need and all of it will fly. The Air is an awesome machine. I remember when they first came out and totally sucked, but Apple has really stepped it up with that model.

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12/5/12

DonVon:
MacBook Air + 128GB SSD (256GB if you really want it but not necessary) + 4GB of RAM + VMWare + Windows 7 x64 = absolutely everything you need and all of it will fly. The Air is an awesome machine. I remember when they first came out and totally sucked, but Apple has really stepped it up with that model.

I second this. I am a MacBook Air owner and have never been this happy with a laptop before. I use a Dell for work, but I wish I could use my Air at my work, too. I once brought my Air to my work, and at least 4 guys came up to me to ask if you are allowed to use a MacBook Air at our company instead of the Dell company laptops. (unfortunately, the answer to that question was a no)

I think all this talk about which laptop has that marginal edge in certain functionality shouldn't concern much of buyer's market, considering the fact that most of us aren't software engineers.

You can tell me Acura TL is a better all-around car with a better price than a BMW 5-series all day, but I wouldn't touch Acura over a BMW because I just love how a BMW 'feels' when driving. (sadly, I don't own a BMW, just a big fan of it) The same thing with a laptop = get something you feel is right.

12/4/12

This thread really makes me want a Lenovo!

12/4/12

Oh yeah, another thing to keep in mind about Lenovos is that they don't have a full keyboard (no num pad)... so if that's a big deal to you, think about it.

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12/5/12

wolverine19x89:
Oh yeah, another thing to keep in mind about Lenovos is that they don't have a full keyboard (no num pad)... so if that's a big deal to you, think about it.

Not a dealbreaker. My Dell has a full keyboard but my Vaio didnt so I could live without it.

12/4/12

I'm actually waiting for the surface pro. Then my fat but powerful HP will turn into a desktop replacement hooked up to my TV as a combination netflix and blu ray player.
Ideapad Yoga if you can't wait.
2 cents of actual laptop purchase advice: get highest res matte screen you can and a SSD

12/4/12

got my alienware m11x 2 years ago and it still runs great

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12/4/12

captainkoolaid:
got my alienware m11x 2 years ago and it still runs great

Wait a minute...I just realized that Alienware is owned by Dell??

MIND = BLOWN

Also it looks like most of the Alienware laptop models have been discontinued. Must have been too intense for people to handle. You can only have so much fun.

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12/4/12

13" macbook pro retina display.

12/4/12

I like the Air, but honestly its pretty expensive for only a 256GB and from what I gather is not SSD.

I think one of the lighter Lenovo series or perhaps a Vaio seems the best option at the moment.

12/4/12

BoxerRebeller:
I like the Air, but honestly its pretty expensive for only a 256GB and from what I gather is not SSD.

I think one of the lighter Lenovo series or perhaps a Vaio seems the best option at the moment.


Incorrect, it is SSD-standard now.

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12/5/12

DonVon:
BoxerRebeller:
I like the Air, but honestly its pretty expensive for only a 256GB and from what I gather is not SSD.

I think one of the lighter Lenovo series or perhaps a Vaio seems the best option at the moment.


Incorrect, it is SSD-standard now.

OK, thanks! It didnt mention it in the spec page on the site. Question, you mention its fine to stick with the 128 rather then the 256. Any reason why? The bigger space surely should be better. Is it because the SSD being smaller allows faster performance?

12/5/12

BoxerRebeller:
DonVon:
BoxerRebeller:
I like the Air, but honestly its pretty expensive for only a 256GB and from what I gather is not SSD.

I think one of the lighter Lenovo series or perhaps a Vaio seems the best option at the moment.


Incorrect, it is SSD-standard now.

OK, thanks! It didnt mention it in the spec page on the site. Question, you mention its fine to stick with the 128 rather then the 256. Any reason why? The bigger space surely should be better. Is it because the SSD being smaller allows faster performance?


No, doesn't have anything to do with speed, but additional GBs of SSD space are EXPENSIVE compared to additional GBs of HDD space. Obviously if you have a lot of stuff on your computer, you'll want to have more space, but with the amount of cloud solutions we have now (Spotify, for example, eliminates the need to have a music collection) and Netflix for movies (instead of, ahem, "other" sources), the need for a lot of space is diminishing.

On the Apple site where it says "128GB Flash Storage" it is referring to the SSD.

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12/4/12

Look into Thinkpads. Great battery life (I have a T420i and it can get up to 12 hours), pretty light, and powerful enough for most things. Not so great for watching movies and playing games though, but I don't do either of those much so it works out well for me.

12/5/12

Another plus for mac: bash > Powershell (and you don't need to relearn everything).

12/5/12

EURCHF parity:
Another plus for mac: bash > Powershell (and you don't need to relearn everything).

Really only matter for "power" users, but yeah, I completely agree. Windows Powershell sucks and is by nature platform-specific, bash doesn't and isn't.

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12/6/12

DonVon:
EURCHF parity:
Another plus for mac: bash > Powershell (and you don't need to relearn everything).

Really only matter for "power" users, but yeah, I completely agree. Windows Powershell sucks and is by nature platform-specific, bash doesn't and isn't.

bash love is best love.

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