+1 tomatosingh101 PM in HF - EquityHedge
+1 lol this is literally just a copy and paste of the last rankings I saw on this site Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Hey I heard Touch Grass Partners and Fresh Air Advisors are S++++++ think you should apply  Cash Money EBITDA
+1 Jesus, do you jerk off with these names?  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 I would also like to add that as someone heading there with a team for a meeting the next day. It was terrifying. Real Estate - All Acronyms
+1 If you are a girl do you let stick front or back ? I think that’s the best way to get the best exits and bonus  Analyst 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Thanks for the reply. Prospect in IB - Restr
+1 Unless you have a particular interest in PCA, definitely do coverage. PCA will too often involve fundraising work and isn't 'real IB' in many eyes. Dr. Rahma Dikhinmahas
+1 It’s too early to call whether it was worth it. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 This has probably been answered a few times in a disaggregated manner on this forum, but like many other questions on this website … the crappy answer is “it depends” Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 To avoid falling into the trap of over-relying on AI and to ensure you're among the top-performing analysts, here are some key recommendations based on the most helpful WSO content: WSO Monkey Bot
+1 100% agree and the same thing is happening at my firm. Some seniors now use claude to review everything and send comments and then I send it to claude again to fix. mikecorleone
+1 thanks for doing this - want to explore equity L/S but current shop runs a different strategy and spend much of my time on the private side with some exposure to publics on more of an ad hoc / special sits basis. showmethemunny
+1 OP has an inflatable doll of Paul Jefferey Taubman Intern in IB - Gen
+1 Keep chugging. It’s a tough market. Unfortunately even many experienced GPs are shutting down. If it makes you feel any better, I’ve been hunting for deals off the side I’ve my desk - 28 LOIs and keep striking out. pudding
+1 Yes please. nachocheese
+1 Respect the confidentiality - 1/6 is fine, but don’t make it cutesy or obvious where it’s tempting to make it 1/1 with context clues.  SaaSChimp
+1 Circling back, it sounds like the portco gig is what you want but you’re nervous that you’re losing optionality or closing a door, so you’re trying to justify staying in investing.  SaaSChimp
+1 usually it's a fit and logistics conversation, not a technical one. LedgerShelf
+1 I'm a good skier I'd love to be a ski bum.  Associate 1 in RE - Comm
+1 Ok swe2ibd
+1 I’ll be more clear since you couldn’t understand the implication that I thought would be obvious. It’s not a high paying HOURLY job. arossi11637
+1 The way that you ask has a big impact on how something is received too. All of the best juniors I’ve worked with have asked ‘why’ something is done rather than ‘how’. Small distinction but makes a difference ACATS
+1 That sounds like an alignment problem more than a question problem. The fix is to lock in what "done" looks like before you start, not keep checking along the way. forbesunder29
+1 showmethemunny PM in HF - EquityHedge
+1 If your long term goals are state side, choose the US office? If you want to go abroad from the LEK Chicago office down the line it's feasible.  Business School in CorpStrat
+1 I worked at one of those firms, very common is extremely wrong. It is very common for people to be kicked out after 2 years. That's the case for 80+% of the people. VP in PE - LBOs
+1 Thank you for sharing your experience.  jl12
+1 Congrats on UBS! On a more serious note, I love that you used AI to write this text, complaining about AI output! anythinggoes
+1 Interesting, thanks for your perspective. I’m open to coming in at the associate level if firms aren’t willing to give credit for my S&T experience, although I suspect an off-cycle lateral move may be my best bet. Associate_1111
+1 Most of the finance people I've seen at Anthropic have IB/PE backgrounds or corporate finance at adjacent tech companies. I doubt anyone is getting "finance and strategy" roles at Anthropic straight out of college. Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+1 Congrats on UBS! geonome
+1 One thing also to add here is that products change. concernedchimp
+1 no you need french boib_1
+1 Best certification you could get is having a parent in the industry, hopefully have a family office that owns a good amount of real estate 8.43 13.5
+1 im in strategic finance and somehow make more than I did in IB but still similiar hours and stress  Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 ^this is the most wise answer. The money is great but taking a low title will probably hurt you monetarily in the long run. Corp_titan
+1 Moelis is an incredible shop, but not S-, esp this year Intern in IB-M&A
+1 RSM more international and you can more easily find a job in english! boib_1
+1 Unless you have a trust fund, don't bounce in this market... WHDC2007
+1 What do you typically see happening to the 2+2 guys who can't crack it at a HF (wash out after 1-3 yrs)? Do they end up significantly worse off vs having never entered HF to begin with? claudealtman
+1 you in IB and dont know who Ducera is???? pbwind2024
+1 Post expressing similar sentiment that got delegated to the PE forum and didn’t receive much attention Hardo Intern
+1 At the moment it's a lot of high yield NNN/SLB stuff as that has been the easiest for me to source and have a couple LP's looking for it. Otherwise it's opportunistic special situation type of stuff. Nationwide.  Recruiter in Non-profit
+1 Interesting. On the NNN and SLB deals - if you’re constantly going to new cities as you chase it nationally, how do you quickly assess market rent? pudding
+1 It's been 15 months -  a window in which NM took a big promotion. Principal in RE - Comm
+1 CoStar/Broker's. Yup it is! Spend a lot of time on the phone. Those are really a credit underwriting as much as, if not more than the real estate as they're long WALT and pretty special purpose. Recruiter in Non-profit
+1 Lab grown diamonds are real diamonds, same carbon, same crystal structure, same hardness. Only a lab instrument can tell them apart. preciouscarbon
+1 After a year and a half, ideally you’ll have 2 or more closed deals under your belt by then. olly_tree
+1 Bump, in a similar spot looking to get into a PE seat long term. Have heard to try moving up market as soon as you can and recruit from there after some better deal experience. Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 I’d recommend asking him how he thought the meeting went rather than asking the internet. Also I’d delete this post so he doesn’t see it and be thankful you have a real estate job right now. Director in RE - Comm
+1 My girl only wants a ring if it comes with sufficient suffering and paperwork that shows at least 3 children died to get it on her finger.  PrivateTechquity 🚀🚀🚀
+1 I’m currently interviewing at a MM PC fund for a similar position and having done some LinkedIn stalking, I’ve seen a couple people who did portfolio management at this fund go to Blackstone PC in origination roles. mynameissnapple
+1 I had a boss like this, micromanager. jarstar1
+1 yep, offers are out. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 we gave out offers this morning -- sorry if you didn't hear back Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+1 Ah yes, providing data points and thoughtful insights on a relatively opaque area of investment banking and investing, I suppose, renders me a virgin. Thank you for the insightful contribution, coverage analyst. Associate 2 in IB - Restr
+1 Yes put it on there, and I might ask your dad for a job Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Thanks for doing this. The point about knowing one pitch cold instead of 2–3 average ones is really useful. I'm in first year of undergrad and want to end up on the L/S side eventually. Two questions: forbesunder29
+1 Negative leverage lives rent free on our brains… Chaser Value
+1 It's a control issue. Very typical of bosses who are used to running deals, not leading people. CRE
+1 Been there, although the pressure points were different. Good news is, it's shit for everyone right now.  CRE
+1 The obvious first area we may see some innovation in this area is equities but think it may still be years away. GlassIsClass
+1 I have already replaced about 10 daily tasks with openclaw. It never forgets and never fucks up the details on these market data pulls. They arrive in my inbox like clockwork every morning at 7:30am. Director in IB - Gen
+1 “We need a 20% net IRR with full downside protection and asymmetric upside” - every LP right now Financial Analyst 2.5
+1 Sorry to hear. This sounds like a failure to train, not on you. Keep your chin up and start applying, hope to find a better manager Lester Grossman
+1 public market investing is closer to chess or poker than a real job - there are thousands of very smart people who would play chess/poker all day for very low amounts of money because they enjoy it, with a few people who g HFPM15
+1 I’m not in Europe so idk how different the market is over there but I’d take the IB job 100%. Ken Moelis's illegitimate son
+1 Having a good boss is honestly underrated. Someone you actually vibe with, can learn from and who wants to see you succeed. Your wins are their wins too. Excel Relapse
+1 Man i just know the smbc -> ms tech kid must feel like the goat seeing himself mentioned all over this site Intern in IB - CB
+1 Dude just quit and get a regular corporate job. Entry level at Big 4 is more than $75k and less work. BuySideIntern
+1 Someone clearly has it out for FTP Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 it's not unheard of, but how you go about it matters more than the switch itself. don't interview behind your current group's back. LedgerShelf
+1 None of those are possible unfortunately. MiM at LBS and LSE is easy to get in. However since you have 0 internships I'd recommend a 2 year one (hec, Bocconi, escp or similar). Prospect in Acct - Other
+1 Hsg is no where near being the best in continental Europe. It's really good for sure. Maybe you're German lol Prospect in Acct - Other
+1 Never was much  Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 Move as soon as you can. I have seen people lateraling as early as 6 months on the job to top BBs (albeit from lower BBs). Intern in IB - Cov
+1 I think in credit investing you will have an edge as a RX professional since there is a lot of pressure from LPs to get more RX expertise. LevFin Lab Newsletter
+1 Fair point, haven’t done a rotational myself, but honestly just asking when they can carve out 15 mins would probably be best. ACATS
+1 The Socrates of our time eatbitda
+1 The usual IB schools plus cmu and mit. Uchicago, cornell, and duke have very high representation at my firm Intern in S&T - Equities
+1 Appreciate you doing this. The line about failing IB recruiting your first time around stood out, since most people on here only share the version that worked. forbesunder29
+1 Same age and in the same situation. It’s nice to read all the comments here and realize so many people have been through this. Hope it will get better for all of us! monkeylovesbanana
+1 Agree with excel relapse. Sometimes this is just big firms though. You need to speak up for what you want but not everyone is going to mentor you. pudding
+1 villanova does better in s&t than in IB chimpin8890
+1 BulgeBracketBrand123 PM in HF - EquityHedge
+1 Hendrickson/Fixler  seems to have a good amount of non-career switchers this year, coming from someone closely acquainted with the program.  Assist. VP in IB - CB
+1 but yes to your point also, none of them are pod style  Assist. VP in IB - CB
+1 Correct, quite literally the worst group on the street and in the entire world. figenjoyer
+1 Interesting point on hiring. Does seem like the culture becomes pretty self-perpetuating when the same small group has so much influence over who progresses or who they want to get fired @pls_fix_thx
+1 Agreed, although PM and coverage (sales) probably has some differences. Interpersonal skills clearly important, but that shouldn’t translate into hiring the same type of person repeatedly. @pls_fix_thx
+1 Great thread and thanks for doing this. Couple of q's: PM in HF - EquityHedge
+1 I guess we’re all gonna be giving out happy endings in a shitty massage parlor in lower Manhattan in 5-10 years 💀 Monkeys at the gate 426
+1 PrivateTechquity 🚀🚀🚀Any idea if the 25% is net or gross to their investors? Works at The Family Office
+1 Williams would be my ED1 with those stats If you have decent ECs otherwise, I think you would be competitive even during RD Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 No one looks at S&P league table lol. Find LSEG Freaknomics
+1 momonke IsItREPE
+1 Appreciate everyones input. Ended up going with coverage over pca, feels like the better call. Magruder_5769
+1 gayest post I've read on this website if you don't jerk off to Barbarians at the Gate you shouldn't even do banking GS under Blankfein
+1 Wouldn’t be an ideal candidate for IB associate tbh. Those analyst promote hate mbas. You have to be strategic, and try to go to a group that are mostly with MBA backgrounds. Lots of haters out there Analyst 1 in IB - Gen