+3 Not representative of the AVERAGE BB/EB analyst class. pls_touch_grass
+3 Ignore title, currently an associate on the buyside in London. Unfortunately, for IB you will likely require local language skills (even in London languages matter a lot but ofcourse English is fine). Intern in AM - FI
+3 The people who join for current recruiting cycle as analyst would join FT in 2028 and those recruiting as associates would join FT in 2027. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+3 I am worried Trump and Hegseth are over their head…  bottledwater
+3 This was so clearly written by AI. Associate 2 in IB-M&A
+3 Why IB / what do you actually want to do? Yeah IB pays but what are you actually looking for? Prospect in Consulting
+3 One of the most genuinely helpful and wholesome messages I’ve seen on this board  Ruebenesque
+3 If you can’t track your meals your fat ass shouldn’t buy a fit bit or a whoop. Get it together dude  (S+ consultant btw) mgs2026
+3 No you just don’t have conception of what a good interview looks like. You’re falling short on behavs or the open ended q’s. Been there, done that Intern in IB - Gen
+3 Tier lists are fun, but they’re mostly a lagging indicator of alumni sentiment, not a decision tool. Three things get consistently lost in these debates: tomas.jaudenes.18
+3 Honestly, you’re asking the wrong question. The real decision isn’t UBS vs magician’s assistant, it’s learning a real skill vs being part of the trick. If you go UBS: tomas.jaudenes.18
+3 Here's my perspective - Analyst 1 in PE - Growth
+3 Back in the "good old days" (pre '08) there simply was more money being made (inflation adjusted) - that I think is part of what you are describing. BoutiqueAsc
+3 The Core, as in Evercore, just poached their head of restructuring. meatrocket
+3 TonyWhiteBartlet: ERguy118
+3 Great question.Very simply, we can examine what percentage of CV deals fell into one of the following Net Asset Value (NAV) buckets:Single Asset CF: Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+3 Very relatable and understandable. I’m in a similar situation but have experience in the investment field thanks to my university. mayoman
+3 Another AI wrapper incoming Dazzling-External-29
+3 Aeris is awesomeee Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+3 Somebody's read Mauboussin! MOICProtection
+3 I am US-based so I don't have any London-specific advice to give you. I have read elsewhere on this website that they mostly hire from IB though. ManOfCredit
+3 Update: I've accepted a corporate IR role at a local firm. I feel content leaving ER...no money...no future. miserytigerzfan2022
+3 Same can be said for IB/PE requiring human touch given no acquisition/divestiture/investment is 1+1=2. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+3 For those who aren’t familiar; I think the above is really driven by their notorious toxic work culture (can see this being echoed across multiple WSO threads). IRR-Responsible IR
+3 Feel free to message me, I have this role to an extent. FoxMulder
+3 Principal in PE - LBOs Works at Jefferies & Company
+3 Managing Director in IB-M&A Managing Director in IB-M&A
+3 On the lending side. What separates good debt brokers from shitty ones for us is understanding our product and understanding what we need and why. Analyst 1 in RE - Comm
+3 Im a Rutgers student and followed up with one MD 30+ times. Don’t stop Intern in IB-M&A
+3 I've talked to a few people working in healthcare corporate roles and they all point towards Competitive Intelligence, Corporate Strategy, and CorpDev as the areas I should target given my experience and skills (ranked the spudrmonke
+3 Associate 1 in PE - Growth Works at Startup
+3 While IQ is important for pattern recognition, there is a point at which you have marginal diminishing returns. I believe, in trading, what is equally if not of more importance is actually RQ (Rationality Quotient). PM in HF - Macro
+3 Keep doing what you're doing, don't listen to the nihilists. I think very similarly to you.  monkeyvjit
+3 If you think you are early to secondaries, I have some cov lite private credit loans to sell you at par. It’s not underrated, it’s well understood. Secondaries funds have existed since pre GFC. Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov
+3 Historically, all of these programs have had respectable IB placements. David White
+3 Scott IrishI think any nonpublic company with issues gets lumped in with the PE boogeyman.  devildog2067
+3 Hot take - relax, travel, enjoy life, and mentally prepare to grind. SaaSChimp
+3 Great read IHateHardos
+3 Tech is weird in terms of culture. Most that I've met in sales is center-right if not pure right. I'm in sales and fit the bill. The founders are all over the place but usually libertarian. Matchabee
+3 I think the first five options are all very realistic. I don’t personally know anyone who has exited directly to a hedge fund. LevFin Lab Newsletter
+3 Ultimately, this depends on each bank’s internal setup, and you can usually find some information on this through informal channels. LevFin Lab Newsletter
+3 its portfolio management, not single stock management one position drawing down 10 - 15% (or even more) doesnt kill your book Research Analyst in HF - Other
+3 Currently at an IS - do not recommend. From what I’ve gathered, IS comp structures vary. However, I have a similar comp structure to you except fewer $$. cristiano_ronaldo7
+3 I think the disagreement comes from how we define “wealthier.”  suu
+3 I never gave up and I got an offer at a top BB in Jan 2026 for SA26. Kept grinding all of 2025 and eventually the right opportunity came. youngbuffet
+3 Well that kinda depends on whether you think the UK economy and public markets will be stronger or weaker going forwards.  usernameladiesman217
+3 I agree both private and public investors over-index on moats and don't really understand the deeper meaning behind them. Prospect in IB - Gen
+3 I’d say most do not, but I have randomly come into contact with a handful that have in the past. Cleveland Steamer
+3 It’s important to remember the relative stature of you compared to an investment banker. Remember you are the one asking for their time. If they say jump, you say how high. Prospect in IB-M&A
+3 Third option nobody's considering: build the tool that automates what the analyst does so the MD doesn't need to hire one. 2coolfinancebro
+3 Del DelusionalDave
+3 One deal the investment team took max leverage after buying into an industry doing ATH performance during COVID. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+3 I dunno man, tough one. Have you tried asking Grok? PrivateTechquity 🚀🚀🚀
+3 I'm not saying you can never join a PE investment team, but if you're working at KKR's portco for example (or any of the other MF's you listed), they're not going to hire you for their investment team from kuf135
+3 I wouldn’t overthink the age or years of experience. Rhonda.mangaroo
+3 If your goal is IB placement, I’d separate “overall prestige” from “actual placement into your target market.” Rhonda.mangaroo
+3 there's a list on the p72 website of good books, would start at expectations investing, and perhaps a book after that about being humble. Prospect in IB - Gen
+3 man you post the most homo shit for sure you work in middle office or tech sales Capital of Structure
+3 ty for the insight, sounds broadly in line with expectations. Had a couple of HH reach out but for LMM/Micro funds that are typically first cheque in (15-50) but this is at Assoc/Manager level. Associate 1 in VC
+3 I’m sorry to hear what you’re going through. You need to change your perspective on the situation. I didn’t follow the normal IB route and have not gotten return offers too. Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+3 user1100321105What would be your take on this question? CRE
+3 fuku Managing Director in IB - Gen
+3 That’s a great starting point — having PE internship experience, even remotely, gives you a valuable edge. kelvinmadris
+3 Guggenheim ASO1 Coverage Upper-Mid rank Base: $175k -> $200k / Bonus: $195k All in $370k For_the_street
+3 Culuture not good, ppl are pyschos  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+3 There doesn't seem a logical reason for you to be doing this. You have an MBB offer. People go to the top unis to to get into MBB. professional.form.filler
+3 How does that change my analysis at all? Coding ≠ Finance. Coding is only ~80 years old while finance is over 5,000 years old. Works at Goldman Sachs
+3 Summer Associate, what can you expect lol as-dfg-hjk
+3 So it seems like M&A bankers are doing modeling on the industry they want to be involved in, while the coverage folks are doing pitching. That sounds like a great structure. as-dfg-hjk
+3 Well, yeah.  It's not hard to be the fastest growing business in history when you're also burning money faster than any other business in history.  There is no path to profitability. Ozymandia
+3 Congrats on Wharton! Works at Citigroup
+3 I've kinda also just got into it and hate it - everything is done through HR barely any networking w bankers like the US processes. Hirevues seems to be a luck of the draw.... dynamicallyfree
+3 Complex topic that most people in M&A/PE will never grasp and not necessary to have a good career.  CopperStone
+3 Exact same as it’s always been - apply everywhere and pray you get something. Once you get an interview it’s down to you entirely. For technicals, 400 Questions should be enough. Prospect in IB-M&A
+3 It sounds like you have an answer already in your head that (a) Oxford is the most prestigious university globally and (b) that purists will only view undergraduate education as prestigious. PEPrincess
+3 No, think no. VP in PE - LBOs
+3 No. Do not do this right now, at least not outright from your end. nutmegger189
+3 The thing most people overlook with AI case prep is that you can get way more out of it if you stop using it like a practice partner and start using it like a coach reviewing your work. Dr.Leigh
+3 You're at the point in your career where your modeling skills aren't going to be super important going forward. Ozymandia
+3 You’re not broken you just didn’t get a return offer. Prospect in Consulting
+3 imo approaching exercise purely from this ROI point of view is never going to bring about the mental benefits you are seeking. Dean Keaton
+3 have never even been graced with an interview at an eb, you got this my man Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+3 I hear what you’re saying, but it is tough to start slacking off and not pull my weight when everyone on my team is working the exact same amount. It’s not like I’m the only one on my team getting grinded like this. Associate 3 in PE - Growth
+3 My roommate interned at Citi in GAM. He got killed with late nights on bs. The modeling experience is lackluster versus what they tell you What I've gathered about other groups: TannerS
+3 Just do target EPS x target P/E multiple.  fragestellung
+3 I understand how dark it can be to grind so hard for something, only for it to implode in your face. But to even intern at an EB, you are in the top 99% of business college students around the world. bddjfj1345
+3 Good luck finding a spot in Canada where ~50% of spots in hiring and promotions are reserved for women.  Executive Director in IB - ECM
+3 The market has been shitty for 3 years now. I wonder when it will end. Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+3 I doubt that heavily. Only reason being, you want real companies and firms around your financial sectors. usernameladiesman217
+3 Interned and now work full-time in sales/trading =  GS1738
+3 Go with SGH, it's not difficult to maintain good GPA if you are not a baboon (maybe wrong example, these are highly intelligent monkeys). SGH still has better reputation. PapiezBankier
+3 It depends on the program style.  SaaSChimp
+3 KingAlphaBump -- any insight on Gladstone in London, UK? Comp/culture? Works at Balyasny Asset Management
+3 Overall, I view OW as the best of the T2. Incredibly strong in FS, as you know, with capabilities and areas of expertise far ahead of any other consulting firm. Consultant in Consulting
+3 Ya agreeing with the other dude who replied to you , your uber example ain’t it. Few things.  Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+3 Can confirm equivalent comp to similar alternative strategies but I would heavily encourage you to do a deep underwrite of this style of investing.  Investment Analyst in HF - Other
+3 Main advice here is to not work for a poor person or at least check out the wife and see how much she cares about money (even in a NE / Greenwich type of way vs Miami OF gold digger). Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov
+3 Don’t know about Blackstone or Brookfield etc but KKR RE Equity is notoriously sweaty with a pretty bad culture. Associate 1 in RE - Comm
+3 solid deal flow and excellent culture Intern in IB-M&A
+3 Maybe bc people don't care that much what keyboards they use at work and just wanna get the job done so they can go home and enjoy their lives? Analyst 2 in IB - Gen