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Ah, diving into the jungle of UBS NY Tech, are we? Let's swing through what the vines of wisdom have to say. Based on the most helpful WSO content, UBS has been making moves in the TMT (Technology, Media, and Telecom) sector, especially with their offices in SF/NY. They've been beefing up their team by hiring senior TMT bankers from other banks. This strategic move could hint at a strengthening position in the tech sector, potentially improving their deal flow, exit opportunities, and overall competitiveness in the tech banking landscape.

Now, for the sound test on the UBS NY Tech Group, it's like tuning into the rhythm of the finance world. The buzz around UBS TMT, particularly in NY, suggests they're playing an increasingly catchy tune, especially with their strategic hires. However, the melody might vary depending on deal flow, pay, and work culture, which are crucial notes to hit for anyone considering a role there.

Remember, the finance orchestra is vast, and each institution plays its own tune. UBS's efforts in the TMT sector, particularly in NY, show they're keen on having a leading melody in the tech symphony. Keep an ear out for the latest performances (updates) and reviews (feedback from current and former employees) to get the most accurate sound test.

Sources: Tech As An Alternative to Finance, JPM Tech Group NY (2023), Barclays Technology IB, UBS TMT SF/NY, Barclays TMT - Tech Group - NYC (thoughts)

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I'm interning at UBS this summer and the info sessions is all about how CS acquisition has improved substantially the overall company's position in the US/SEA, where CS was better at tech and other groups.

 
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The team's most successful merger deal this year is combining their seamless orders to get free delivery

 

UBS NY Tech's idea of a 'unicorn' is an analyst who actually sees a live deal

 

Genuinely good traction with financings and getting leads there. Doesn't do any M&A period though, all the M&A creds for them are purely sponsor-based/run through the sponsor's group. Would push back against the claim that the hires are recent promotes mostly; the hires are roughly a 50/50 split of older MDs and recent promotes. Also of note: just because someone is recently promoted, it does not mean they are weak or bad at their job. It's no secret that what happened with the Tech group is gead group brought over his friends and their favorite junior MDs. True on the financing side of things though, the group simply doesn't have the M&A creds yet to truly bring in the deals on that side (which is a problem because deals beget more deals), but to be fair: the group has seen more lead wins on the financing side, which the bank is still happy with since banks focus is sponsor-backed lead financings. 

 

The team is currently not ranked among the top 20 tech teams on Wall Street, including boutiques. Barclays' new hires are likely to receive strong support from group head, regardless of their performance. Meanwhile, UBS tends to focus on the quantity of new hires rather than investing in high-profile rainmakers, and they are not known for offering the highest compensation.

 

The Tech team is mostly based in SF with the majority of the seniors sitting there. NY only has 2-3 MDs that cover Internet, and the rest are all juniors. If you are really into tech and want to work on all sectors UBS covers (Software, Semis, Internet), then SF is definitely the office to be in since UBS doesn't really cross-staff between offices. You'll probably work more in SF than NY as a junior tho, bc most of the deals come out of SF

 

Not great bankers, best to grow your career elsewhere. Been years since it sourced any M&A and the bankers are lazy and go golfing midweek with clients. They sell hope and promise, because even though they have a bigger loan book and more MDs they have less deals than the old UBS team.

 

They should pivot to archaeology—they're experts at digging up very old creds.

 

Jokes aside, their creds are so bad they've started using "deal pending" as a euphemism for "never hapening"

 

Very toxic culture from what I hear. Half the associates get designated “acting VPs” and get first dibs on all staffings. Other half have a lottery where it’s first come first serve for what’s left. If a staffing goes unclaimed second group is forced to work it. No surprise all the diversity hires are part of the second group.
4th Year VP was staffer and asked for an office/was denied due to lack of seniority. A 1st year Barclays VP was hired and instantly within a couple weeks became staffer and instantly given an office.

 

same thing is happening in other groups as well with barclays laterals.

group head barclays, new barclays laterals come in and are told they are getting promoted to MD/ED, and junior ones are immediately given leadership roles.

If you are not part of this "crew" you might not be riffed immediately, but you are 100% hitting a wall soon in the firm.  there are some extremely talented people that were on golden paths pre barclays takeover who are now pretty much sidelined (for really no reason other than politics).

 

UBS NY Tech: come for the banking, stay for the watch and golf club recommendations.

 

Most junior time spent on manually recreating materials from senior bankers prior firms, creating row profiles for companies neither the junior nor senior banker have ever heard of, creating take private pitches for companies with no desire to go private and filling out loan templates for Lev Fin. Most work should be outsourced to India tbh

 

NY doesnt have a Tech MD who has covered Tech as an MD for more than 2-3 years

 

Group has no presence in big cap tech M&A, though fees are present and real but mainly from equity, financing, and capital raises general which plays to UBS's strengths, and in my opinion more of a reflection of the turbulence in the M&A group - have worked with them and not a single positive experience vs other product groups.

Culture has been degrading as it becomes more cliquey - though feeling is that it is more due to lack of deal flow and seniors picking favorites and having the ability to work with them vs racism, sexism, or other scandalous reasons seen on here.

Sentiment is that seniors need to start bringing in deals and the juniors will be happy. As to if that will happen, everyone is hopefull but not like Barclays Tech was a top group before anyways.

 

Sounds like a typical Tech senior shifting blame…
Blaming M&A for lack of M&A fees. It’s not like deals are falling apart due to M&A execution…
Note juniors are also routinely yelled at and blamed for senior lack of fees…
Culture is great if you are a chosen junior from Barclays who gets to go golfing with seniors mid week…

 

Not disagreeing - definitely agree there are favorites from Barclays but insofar the only Barclays juniors are VP's / Directors, no associates or analysts.

Agreed though that it's the seniors' fault there's no fees and not enough deal flow enough to go around, and makes culture worse with yelling etc.

UBS isn't known for M&A broadly anyways - if someone wants to focus on strategic clients I wouldn't recommend they go to UBS generally, just take a look at the league tables for the different products and you'll see UBS strongly lags in M&A but does moderately ok in other products.

Culture sucks but what can you do except buckle down get an offer for PE or lateral...

 

Example of how toxic it is: Director is jet setting the world and responds 6 hours later, never reviewing with either “good to send” or “in the interest of time, since I don’t have time let’s send” as work materials go up the chain to an MD. Any comment received gets a response “how did we miss this?” and he compiles materials of you admitting any mistakes (he should have prevented) for end of year reviews.

 

Seems like the director..

Creates Confusion: Lacks clear direction and guidance, leaving the team disoriented.

Yields Poor Results: Consistently fails to deliver on key objectives and projects.

Rejects Accountability: Blames others for failures without taking responsibility.

Ignores Feedback: Disregards input from team members and colleagues, contributing to inefficiency.

Lacks Leadership: Fails to mentor or effectively manage the team, leading to low morale.

Cultivates Toxicity: Promotes a negative work culture by favoring certain individuals and neglecting others.

Hinders Progress: Causes delays by not providing timely decisions or reviews.

Undervalues Team: Does not recognize or support the efforts of the broader team, leading to dissatisfaction.

Avoids Responsibility: Shifts blame and refuses to take ownership of mistakes.

 

Their favorite Excel function? =IF(DEAL_CLOSED, 'Celebrate', 'Blame M&A Team')

 
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Obligatory not in the group but am at the firm, and have interacted with/am friends with people in the group.

First off all, I want to note that this group might be the single most VARIED group for analysts at the bank. Some people are on a lot of things, others on literally nothing with the difference in workload being frankly quite jarring. Some people have closed stuff (albeit mostly loan-related things) and others haven't been on anything live at all, etc. This is perhaps the reason you see such negative responses, as A) the people who are on nothing have way more time, B) feel cheated(rightfully so) of the IB experience, and are largely scared of possible RIFs, which is not completely unfounded given the state of UBS. Also, let's be very clear here: UBS before last year in tech was decimated and had 0 deal flow after the team left for SVB so there is no way that UBS Tech could've possibly actually gotten worse. it's impossible because the previous group was completely gutted of any senior talent. 

In terms of performance, from what I understand: good financing deal flows (decent number of lead-lefts), which yes is by a large extent due to sponsor/levfin relationships but still somewhat influenced by industry expertise and give a decent bit of exposure to the tech team as at UBS a lot of the industry/company/growth rate related work is all done by the industry team even on lev fin deals. There is also a decent bit of ECM activity in the team, and overall the group has seen fairly strong financing activity including winning NEW lead-lefts in LevFin transactions, which is in some ways a change as although UBS has been decent at LevFin for while it wasn't the greatest Tech LevFin bank (still isn't, but that product, in particular, has seen a clear uptick).

In terms of M&A, there has been essentially nothing of note that is actionable as far as I am aware. It's important to note that the latest set of hires (believe the number was 12 seniors if I remember correctly) in SF and NYC started roughly a month ago. More important than just this it's important to note: A) UBS M&A is a dog-shit group both as a product group in terms of idea generation and actual work, as well as the fact that UBS has not been viewed as a strong tech M&A bank for over 2 years now, B) group head joined last year and his hires have all filtered in throughout the year, to build out an M&A pipeline and deal it typically takes MD's well over a year to ramp up for most parts, C) A lot of these hires are frankly group head's chosen hires, which means they are 1 of 3 things: either good, part of some package deal with another MD(might be the case for some of the juniors), or even simply just people group head liked. This doesn't mean every new MD is weak or strong, just that it's a bit of an amalgamation of different MDs who are coming over because of one dude.

I hope that is fairly comprehensive, I have tried not to be too biased towards either side. 

 

The significant disparity in workload among juniors suggests inexperienced management and ineffective staffers who may not fully understand that their primary role is to oversee and balance the team’s workload.

The current team appears less effective than the previous one, not only due to the lack of deal flow but also because of a deteriorating culture and a disillusioned team. The prior team focused on smaller, winnable deals and managed to secure a few mandates. In contrast, the current team seems to overestimate their position, aiming for high-profile deals akin to Qatalyst, which ultimately wastes time and resources.

In terms of financing, LevFin could arguably replace sector teams' input with tools like ChatGPT. Senior tech professionals contribute minimally to financings, with LevFin outperforming due to a larger loan book and a willingness to take on more aggressive terms.

The timing of the arrival of new seniors is somewhat misleading. Press releases suggest many started last year, and only 2-3 joined this summer.

Regarding M&A, blaming the M&A team for a lack of ideas misses the mark. It’s important to recognize that M&A execution is distinct from client coverage (Barclays analyst above wouldn’t understand since they don’t have an M&A team). Nonetheless, it’s fair to expect more from the tech M&A team, given they have a relatively light workload and 2 MDs, and 2 EDs dedicated to M&A on board.

Companies typically acquire others because it aligns with their strategy, not because of a suggestion buried on page 46 of a lengthy pitch book. The relationship and trust built with the bank are what truly matter.

As for the pipeline, if it is as robust as claimed, it will take more than a year to see results. Top MDs would already be advancing deals from their previous firms and sharing fees between their former firm and UBS. A large portion of the current team consists of EDs and junior MDs who may have been relying on the success of more senior MDs who have since departed.

 
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One glaring issue with the UBS NY Tech group is the evident lack of direction from senior management. There is no clear strategy or cohesive vision guiding the team, leading to a fragmented approach where different segments of the group are pulling in opposite directions. This lack of leadership not only affects deal flow but also contributes to the declining morale within the team. Juniors are left without proper mentorship, and seniors appear more focused on self-preservation than on fostering a collaborative and productive environment. If UBS truly wants to compete with top tech teams, it needs to address this leadership vacuum and instill a culture that prioritizes teamwork and consistent performance over individual agendas.

 

It’s an accountability problem. Senior bankers are always pointing fingers at juniors or other teams when things go wrong, instead of owning up to their mistakes. This blame game just makes the whole place toxic, and it’s no wonder the group isn’t performing well. When no one’s willing to take responsibility and everyone’s focused on passing blame, nothing gets better, and the whole team ends up not performing well

 

Steps that could be taken asap to improve the group:

1. With new joiners starting, staffers need to restaff projects across the group to distribute work more evenly. Yes, that might mean taking away and moving good staffings to new people. Its for the best long term to have a functioning team where everyone is firing on all cylinders 

2. if the staffers are unwilling to push back to make changes happen, put someone in as staffer who will. Low level of confidence in current staffers. The current staffing hierarchy of 1) nepotism first for good staffings, 2) whoever can volunteer for mediocre staffings the fastest second and 3) if the staffers dont like the result they give it to whoever is TERRIBLE. Staffings should be given out as mandated by the staffer based on capacity. No volunteering, or rogue staffings…

 
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They say staffer's inexperienced, but he's a pro at turning a blind eye to the team's workload while he tees off with the boss

 

The entire point of WIRE sheets is to level load effort. Better to have two juniors at 3/4 capacity than burn out one junior while another junior is bored with nothing to do...

 

UBS Tech playbook for juniors: “wait until the post-[insert next major holiday] boom where activity picks up and we start winning again”

Selling hope/momentum for next season is what lousy sports franchises sell their fans

 
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Have friends in this group and wanted to give unbiased thoughts after someone showed me this thread. Seems like a great place to work with majority of juniors leaving by 6 and very few stay past 9. WFH Fridays are the norm, weekends light workload. Four MDs, 2EDs sit and staff in NY with big NY junior group ~15+ Associates, ~15+ Analysts which helps distribute the workload. SF and Boston MDs also sometimes staff out of NY when over capacity. 
On the MDs:

MD 1 - Legacy Barclays - NY Head - Tech-Enabled Services - likeable and charismatic with those he works with, straightforward decks/comments and doesn’t cause unnecessary work. Strategic with approach to meeting with clients. Tends to befriend clients to gain bussiness, focuses on relationship building such as dinners, and industry conferences instead of meeting materials. Joined a year ago with no meaningful wins as of yet but good momentum. Became coverage banker in last ~3-4 years, prior DCM.

MD 2 - Legacy Barclays - Software - Joined recently and building his coverage within software verticals, treats juniors like partners and draws out pages in outlines. Seeks efficiency by reviewing in progress work, but can push juniors to keep iterating on decks. Recent MD promote in last year.

MD 3 - Legacy CS - Internet - genuine dude who has won deals, values juniors opinions and respects and gets to know them and talk to them in the bullpen. Pushes juniors for longer thoughtful and creative decks. His comments usually help make deck better. Most normal MD and has strong European relationships as he previously worked there. MD promote this year.

MD 4 - Legacy UBS - Internet- Very stressed, high meeting count, and more than 1/2 to 2/3 the groups capacity with staffings. Juniors generally avoid working for him and staffings usually go unclaimed. Those working closely with him usually do poorly (4+ juniors laid off last 2 years). Can be volatile and individually calls juniors to chew them out but can come off kind and caring as well. Usually little guidance to juniors on what he wants, very hard to interpret comments and iterates more extensively than other seniors with very technical intro and marketing decks. From what I hear, no meaningful wins outside Lev Fin financings, in last 3-4 years. Two prior UBS teams did not take him to their new firms (Moelis & HL) when each team left UBS. Very quick on his feet when presenting and tries to impress clients with his insights. MD for ~4 years.

Generally want to work for MD1,2, and avoid MD4, given office politics and workload.

 

The Tech team gets very excited from the prospect of being invited to participate in bake-offs, even if up against 5+ banks with odds stacked against them. In some cases, even when they haven't received an official invite, they take the initiative to create a bake-off style deck and present / send to the company. This practice helps ensure the juniors stay busy and don’t get bored.

 

Juniors avoid MD 4's projects like they're optional compliance training sessions

 

Biggest win is probably getting his minion to convince others to take his latest staffing

 
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at da firm but up a flight of stairs 

one of md4's buds just peaced to another bb i heard so he's gonna only get even more desperate with the pitchin

md1 seems to have a good relationship with big guy marco so clear winner for who you dont wanna upset

 
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2025 Update:

MD2 allegedly stole IP from prior bank so he was let go. MD5 hired covering fintech from… you guessed it Barclays. He works us hard but so far it’s been a pretty positive experience once you understand the space.

 

 Live view of undesirable staffings being handed out in the junior bullpen

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Searched up Lehamn Brother's culture and it really sounds very similar to the team now.

  • "In the end, it seems that Lehman’s management team became too agreeable — and too loyal, content to follow even when they knew better. In the months and years leading up to the most recent financial crisis, dissent wasn’t an option even for those insiders who had seen a trunk or a tusk (looming distress signals) but were afraid or insufficiently informed to identify the elephant in the room."
  • "Of course, if you were with him, and if you made it into the top ranks, he took care of you, and you and your family became very wealthy."
  • (https://hbr.org/2009/09/lehmans-problem-too-much-align)
  • "Managers don't walk into a firm meaning to do bad things, but working where hiring, retention, evaluation and promotion practices are designed around the belief that people are motivated solely by personal gain creates a "me," not "we," culture."
  • "Journalists' post-crisis interviews with employees have revealed a systematic pattern of harassment and firing of those who sought to express doubts about what was happening."
  • (https://www.forbes.com/2009/09/14/lehman-strategy-failure-leadership-ma…)
 

The most action they've seen all year was during the fire drill—and even then, some people didn't show up.

 

Honestly its not that bad, but would of definetly quit a long time ago if I got anything else for more deal experience and less blatant favoritism

 

Agreed. The team is a great place if you want some banking experience but also want good WLB and reasonable schedule week to week

 

I just joined the team not too long ago, and I already really regret accepting my offer. It feels like everyone’s only looking out for themselves in such a ruthless way, and people are even willing to sabotage your work just to get ahead. They’re making the full-time team take modeling tests, which is probably the only modeling experience we’ll get with how slow the market is right now. Honestly, I don’t even know if I’ll last a full year before I just quit.

 

If you’re in a group like this - constantly pitching and unable to get the skills needed to lateral elsewhere, what do you even do? 

 

Simple in theory, hard in practice - you grind on your own time and reach out to headhunters and leverage connections to get a way out - bide your time when that's locked down until you're out and play the game to your best ability to maximize your return on time invested.

 

You just have to be smarter during coffee chats. Ask a lot of inofrmation on deals, average day and such to not enter a shitty group.

This is a very bad group, that will continue to be a very bad group for the forseeable future. If I had a return offer here, would seriously consider trading it for something else.

 

Coming to a bookstore near you in Spring 2025

"The Unbelievably Disastrous, Utterly Catastrophic, and Incredibly Mismanaged Tech Investment Banking Group at UBS: A Hilariously Awful Saga of Cultural Clashes, Integration Woes, and Senior Bankers Stumbling Through a Maze of Mediocrity While Clients Flee and Opportunities Slip Through Their Fingers Like Sand"

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Why did they wait so long to lay people off? The merger happened like a year ago, how are they still integrating?

 

This thread is hilarious never seen something like it here. Sounds like the team is a game of survivor where every month they vote someone off until they get to like 1-2 juniors per senior banker

 

this thread has done so much to crater UBS recruiting lol. the team have to be seething about this.

how could any prospect in undergrad/mba willfully go to this team after taking a look at this (which lets face it, they all google and research the team).

let alone someone lateral there......

the people that do go there......last choice for them.

 

Yeah no deals, bad culture, and good chance you get fired before you hit your second or third year

 

They shouldn’t do well in recruiting if they are this bad. You make it sound like it’s an open secret at the firm that Tech is bad group.

 

2025 is our year! Low rates will allow for an uptick in deal flow

 

The strategy is clearly to avoid unnecessary complexity of closing transactions

 

Honest take: better to join any other bank or a smaller shop. The team has no deals, and it is very difficult to exit because people don’t know how to go through m&a transactions, especially if they are complex, and envolve public companies, multiple buyers etc. juniors are pretty good but unfortunately no matter how smart you are you cannot learn a process if you never work on one. It’s not something you can learn in theory. I spent multiple years in this group and i noticed that even smart people just didn’t have the right experience to exit. Many smaller shops have many more transactions so better to join a no name place and work on at least a few transactions

 

I think the people are OK - if you are in with the right ones. Lots of sharp elbows and in-groups around the MDs certain juniors cling to for life since they have actual, meaningful work with clients (not necessarily deals, but at least work requiring thought and not just a POS profile book)

 

By meaningful work what do you mean? You clearly don't mean deals.

Do you just mean not random profile book of companies no one has ever heard of?

 
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When the 20+ new MDs realize the bank may not honor or be able to afford their guarantees if they don't have any wins

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UBS Tech's biggest innovation? Finding new ways to explainwhy they haven't closed any meaniful deal in three years.

 

Strongly encouraged 5 days, but all the seniors have long commutes and often don’t feel like coming in more than twice a week let alone a Friday. Head of NY Tech sends his favorite associate and favorite director to report back to him who showed up on Friday.

 
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Hoping for a better 2025 once group hit steady state staffing levels

 

A thoughtful review of the historical effectiveness of some senior bankers may be essential to foster a successful turnaround

 

Being an MD, even for two years, means they’ve faced their share of challenges. The faster you adjust and find alignment with their vision, the better it will be for your own career trajectory.

 

Just joined the group, and wow, you can really size up a banker’s power by what’s in their office. Walk into a guy’s space decked out with deal toys, fancy decorations, and picture frames from every family vacation — that’s pure power. On the flip side, you stroll into an MD’s office, and if all they’ve got is a sad little water bottle, no deal toys, no decorations… that’s a power vacuum. Forget titles; it’s all about the swag-to-space ratio.

 
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Think this is bad? Just imagine the stuff the mods had to censor. Welcome to our world of chaos!

 

Mods just censored a February 2021 example because they thought it was misinformation. Believe it really has been that long from my search.

 

Sounds like a great place to be a:

junior book runner…

junior financial advisor…

junior lender…

sure you’ll be on stuff but will never lead anything or learn how things work.

 

Unthankful seniors providing no intellectually stimulating work while flopping to close any deals and win any clients. Juniors tend to try hard to make good work because it's in them and then seniors provide no positive feedback. Juniors are stuck because they can't lateral anywhere without real experience.

It's a real shame because juniors tend to have good culture amongst themselves but the seniors have no interaction with juniors you would expect in banking, and has led to segregation and degradation of junior culture

- no happy hours sponsored by seniors
- happy hours that happen are usually just the same clique
- The rare closed deals have no thank you's from seniors and don't even take you out to coffee or have a closing dinner to thank you personally
- seniors almost never in office and when they are have very little impact

Group head is a pompous prick who doesn't ever answer junior questions or implement feedback on stuffings or anything really and just provides vague *eloquent* answers that when pressed on gets visibly upset

Group head after BofA FIG associate died said "look no one dies in this industry"

TLDR: Extremely out of touch seniors providing no mentorship or meaningful work and do nothing to create a positive work environment

 

Yeah emblematic of seniors really only caring about one person: themselves!

This leads to them having little to no respect for juniors to the point that they are disrespectful and mistreat juniors, taking out their lack of deal flow frustration on them.

The only real interaction we get from one MD is awkwardly calling out peoples names as he scurries into his office as if he’s robotically taking attendance. He then gaslights juniors with hope and promise for the future, while explaining why all people who left or were let go were all bad, horrible and unqualified for the job. 

 

Worse part about it is questioning juniors and them all having to lie and say “things are great and I am so happy!” because the smallest sign of discontent and they are a goner

 

I am like 99% sure this group still has 0% M&A pipeline. The only relevant and somewhat competitive coverage groups are GIG and FIG with other groups having some good MDs scattered through there. It's wild how consumer has more deal flow than TMT. I am pretty sure UBS fintech coverage (multiple 1Bn+ EV deals this year) n itself has generated more revenue for the firm than all of TMT. Absolute shit show of a group.

 

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