+1 Ultimately your forecast is going to be wrong so save yourself time by just applying a flat %. It also takes away the false sense of accuracy you get by adding layers and layers of mechanics  VP in RE - Comm
+1 Does UBS do 2 or 3-year analyst programs? Just trying to gauge what A2A looks like at the firm IB Analyst 01
+1 I was an AS1 in 2015, and my progression was as follows at a BB before I left for PE. Top bucket every year starting As. 3. I suppose it is possible that a BB AS2 got $400k in 2019, but I don't really believe it. Principal in PE - Other
+1 holy moly ur company is taking you to the cleaners with that pay package. UBSRising789
+1 You just threatened to spit on my face because you lost an argument to an intern. Read that sentence back to yourself. Slowly. I'll wait. Intern in ER
+1 can confirm at least 2-3 at almost every BB/EB and several others in MMs for summers. Some full times and many more off cycles as well. xxx1
+1 This in every way echoes my experience. I also didn’t get a return last summer, and truly thought it was the end of the world. banking1289
+1 Pretty absurd to give higher bonus to the laterals than the people who stayed. Is $80k top bucket for MS? $50 is mid or bottom? How did M&A or Menlo get paid? Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 antenna.strand5b equitymuncher
+1 Seems like you took the offer when you were out of job. Director in IB - Cov
+1 Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Once you get the interview I’d say it doesn’t matter much. Getting the interview is the hard part Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 You've called me a retard five times, threatened to spit on me, told me I need to be 'stomped out,' and now you're accusing me of saying you lied about your job. which I never said. Intern in ER
+1 Cheers Chat GPT nutmegger189
+1 Wow really, I didn't realise corp dev can pay that, i thought mine was the average.. thanks for flagging this. VP in CorpDev
+1 yeah i like to do this because i have a tendency to stomp any retards out who dont belong in this industry and just cant tolerate retardation eeking out from you. you dont deserve an opinion lol. Analyst 1 in HF - EquityHedge
+1 Typical analyst is only top bucket, else it’s 3 years Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 It is not possible for above 20-25% of a group to be top-bucket, there were more than that promoted. Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+1 NYC will for the most part be king for another 100 years.  Isaiah_53_5 💎🙌💎🙌💎
+1 Didn’t saw…speaks for itself Analyst 1 in IB - Restr
+1 Careers are 30+ years long. You don’t have to start in something “intellectually stimulating”. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Evercore within finance while Goldman for anything outside of finance. No, Jessica from ACCT-101 will never date you anyways.  Summer Associate in IB-M&A
+1 bro these comps are abysmal at what point are we gonna realize we turned into a fixed comp in the spreadsheet like the SG&A lines we look at all day  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 My advice is put yourself in position of client (investor) and think through all the questions you would ask. And then go and try to answer all of those questions. VP in ER
+1 Sure, Karoshi-san. Prospect in IB - Cov
+1 So you’re saying comp today is around 25% higher than the numbers that I posted for top bucket? That doesn’t sound too shocking given the passage of time. Principal in PE - Other
+1 Anonymous Monkey: Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Based on the most helpful WSO content, sell-side M&A advisors are generally expected to be registered as broker-dealers if they are involved in transactions that require such registration under U.S. securities laws. WSO Monkey Bot
+1 Been a sinking ship ever since they pulled my FT offer VP in IB - Gen
+1 How's return rate at PJT dddd0
+1 Why exit? WF is paradise  Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+1 if your lifestyle creep is so bad you cant live off $200K or its that much of shock to the system stop living like a Miami influencer perhaps or take your 5th child out of private school idk what to tell you lol  Research Analyst in AM - Equities
+1 As UBS IB in the US continues to struggle very doubtful they will early promote anyone to save on cost. Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+1 Was in a top group and that’s not the case at all. Only group landing MF is REGAL (for BX RE PE to be specific). There are a few UMM exits but pretty uncommon Intern in IB-M&A
+1 Congrats and totally makes sense. Your associate is kinda wild letting you take on so many tasks. My intern only helps with pulling data + graphing on live deals. Associate 1 in PE - Other
+1 90%+ across coverage / M&A Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+1 Who's to say I'm really an intern? Or just using the title to blend in? I could be making 10–100x what you make, in my 20s, still drinking, living life, and not needing to put others down to feel important. Intern in ER
+1 seriously... its like they only care what other people think. once you actually break in nobody cares if you work at goldman vs evercore vs your local tiny boutique Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Damn did they disastrously fail estimating the headcount? I thought they were expanding their IB arm aggressively Was rooting to recruit FT for WF but ig thats a goner now greatgreatdreams
+1 Don Draper. Donjosecuervo
+1 And this is how they end up with only completely retarded A2A asos and completely retarded MBA asos, but again UBS is way too short sighted and wants to nickel and dime anyway they can.  Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+1 I wouldn’t put “selected deal experience”. You don’t actually have any. The probability you were put on anything remotely impactful as an intern is near 0. alexcokke
+1 Based on the most helpful WSO content, maintaining a wardrobe that reads as put-together can indeed take a notable amount of time, but there are strategies to streamline the process: WSO Monkey Bot
+1 HSG by far the best continental school in europe. Gives access to the best salaries in europe! boib_1
+1 I get the prestige / network / travel factors, but would you say the key reason you’re going is for PE / HF recruiting opps? Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 Yeah it would have. Much less powerful brand name. Sorry if that offends you. Fanofoutcomes
+1 since when did GS up base? Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 I only saw 1-2 UMM/MF VP 1 lateral openings over the past 2+ years Definitely more lateral associate options, but for VP+, I think MBA provides more opportunities based on what I've seen from friends who have gone. Fanofoutcomes
+1 I've been a pot wizard since the 10th grade Intern in S&T - FI
+1 Life will always throw curveballs like this. Some graduated during the Great Recession and others during Covid years. Philly Special
+1 Don’t know who you are but which groups exactly had 100% return offer rates because to my knowledge none did? Intern in IB - Gen
+1 Yeah certainly not regular way PE. Family office where mandate is mostly funds and co-invests, occasionally will do a direct + more unique txns like GP stakes. NuclearPenguins
+1 haha seriously? You really think the ride down from 600k to 200k is going to be fun and you're just going to brush it off? You really think that'll make family planning easier if you've got 2 kids? The Penguin
+1 Sure but what's the alternative to not having a perfect story, kill myself? Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 There are tons of books and youtube videos that will teach you, but the biggest point I want to make is to not start a career you don't actually care about. CRE
+1 Analyst 1 in IB - CovAre exit opps generally the same? Is it viewed with the same prestige and competency that Americans view their rx consultants? acethesolve
+1 For the absolute top ones it is worth taking debt but only Oxbridge and LSE. boib_1
+1 So the turnaround guys are still focused on operational performance improvement, right? trimming the fat, doing everything they can operationally to preserve equity value (assuming debtor side)? Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 I'd be quitting based on receiving the offer and clearing background check (I already cleared it because they pre-screened). Why should I resign on a Friday instead of first thing Monday morning? Associate 1 in RE - Comm
+1 Sorry man not buying the AI sales pitch. Most of your points undermined your own argument. And yes if you broaden “consumer” enough and focus more on end-markets then every B2B2C business is a consumer business. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 Good point about even being able to pin down my senior but I'd be able to just walk into her office. Associate 1 in RE - Comm
+1 Thanks for the thoughtful response. It does seem difficult to imagine development roaring back like it had been given the reasons you mention like slowing demographics. CRE Mamba
+1 This is super helpful. Definitely going to try this in my future emails. Thank you for the suggestion and I hope you have a great rest of your week! Kondo
+1 This. If you think IB isn't intellectually stimulating, then CRE sure as hell won't be Backoffice_Boss
+1 Yes, from a job security view, you are right. But good luck ever exiting AM after being there for 3+ years. Backoffice_Boss
+1 Bump bruhboneguoh
+1 The issue with pockets is that everyone in their mother will be in on it. Its too obvious. Southern_cre
+1 For JPM - also curious if their non-networking policy extends to FT recruit, or networking is also needed for SA/FT recruit regardless rightnow Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 Sure but what white collar career hasn't seen this? Even tech as a monolith has seen this, though select pockets like AI / data science haven't  The Penguin
+1 real... what is the tangible downside to this?  Gordon-THE-gecko
+1 Most were around 70 not 80 I’d say. But there were quite a few with 40-60. Few groups had over 80 Intern in IB-M&A
+1 bump also curious. Also 140k base is no longer a thing i thought. im assuming u got offered 140k tho  Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 No one asked, but I wanted to pile on the hate: Their commercial banking sucks as well. I've been an account holder for decades and their products and services are barely competitive.  Determined
+1 More agency lending Analyst 1 in RE - Comm
+1 jCRE_1but are the Dodgers REPE tho IsItREPE
+1 Regardless of bank name, seems everyone’s ghosting unfortunately… I’m feeling kind of hopeless Intern in IB-M&A
+1 I was anti 2 phones until I did it. provided you can do the following, you should do 2 phones thebrofessor
+1 Absolutely ask, obviously just be respectful with how you word it.  Mixing in a 50k-foot-view question like that is a positive, shows that you are aware of the bigger picture Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Was an SA. Depends on group - some groups knew before internship ended, others finding out today, imagine others might be different as well. Generally returns were pretty good (for my group at least) Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 It seems a tad artificial tbh but definitely does not lack in perceived effort. Honestly, I think you'd be okay with some tweaks to send this out... good luck with your informationals recoveringconsultant
+1 Yeah it’s more agency lending. It’s fine for a first job but don’t transfer into it. Associate 1 in RE - Comm
+1 I am on a marketing, some others are on a few more. No live deals as of yet pretty sure for the others. But the difference is visible when they are walking about discussing work with their assoc. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Highly doubt this would ever come up. Just logically how would they ever know? If you're already in, you're in. They're not doing additional checks until before you start full-time if you get an offer. johnny-mnemonic
+1 Was this for the Jan 2027 start date? Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 We have no idea how you get up in the morning! Ozymandia
+1 Dont sweat it too much though  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 I work at one of the MFs with a dedicated cap markets team that does this internally. Honestly the gig looks super sweet for seniors but pretty boring for juniors, even on the new stuff like CFOs/portfolio financing. Analyst 2 in Private Credit
+1 I've seen personally an uptick in quality of roles / job postings this past month or so but my industry is one of the only ones doing decently well in terms of job market (healthcare). Business School in CorpStrat
+1 After the other offer is locked in.Just because you are giving 2 weeks’ notice is no guarantee they want you there the next 2 weeks. Pokemon Master
+1 I agree conceptually but depends. when you're in a group that sucks culturally you get lost amidst your rage for others and completely lose sight of the big picture and the fact it's cool. Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+1 What a pussy chimpychimper
+1 At UBS analysts are a name and a number. Well not even a name (since the MDs don’t know your a name) just a number… Associate 2 in IB - Gen
+1 holy cracked corpdevgooner
+1 The NYC groups were  ~70-80% conversion, CLT a little less because most juniors who want to move to CLT are morons  VP in IB - Gen
+1 GS An1 classic range from bottom bucket to low end of top bucket is $20k-$60k (7 known data points). Very best performers likely a bit higher. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 PM me. Let me see how I can help _SANDMAN_
+1 my bad, they havent worked much with us so wasn't sure. On the CFO stuff- the structuring is pretty interesting but I would say that the IB FF groups are not dealing with the interesting side. Analyst 2 in Private Credit
+1 There’s genuinely threads upon threads upon threads surrounding this topic. The formula has not changed since last year or the year before that or the year before that. Analyst 1 in IB - Restr
+1 Not to hijack, but to settle some of the debate above,  I had Claude pull the profiles of Principal+ investors at the top 25 firms by AUM: SaaSChimp
+1 i really wouldn’t worry so much personally! Very much subjective but from what I have heard, return rates are down because quality of interns are down. 12345forest