+5 I'm going to go out on a limb and say someone on your team committing suicide is not normal  VP in Private Credit
+5 Devastated that haven’t close any M&A deals in the last 2 years, but only refinancing Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+5 Congrats on no live deals that will close! Intern in IB - Cov
+5 Holy UGC. Congrats on ParibusPrep! Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+5 I can’t really speak to Muay Thai but I disagree on BJJ vs wresting for MMA. Geralt of Rivia
+5 The peak of Canadian university exits is exiting the country! Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+5 Overall I'm not sure the idea works as is because at a high enough income it is more convenient to use a concierge or delivery service instead. FinanceBrah
+5 I might just be a dull bulb but unlike other people's reactions so far, I like this line of thinking. Associate 1 in RE - Comm
+5 Why are Brits total simps for Muslims and obvious extremists that want to destroy the west? Xhamster02
+5 great, another international coming to UBS Associate 2 in IB - Gen
+5 Serious question - why not just lean into being an “abf guy”? Asset-backed feels like the next hot ‘frontier’ of pc (see APO owning >15 abf origination platforms). awfulwaffle
+5 Analyst 1 in IB-M&AWe are going to win and win so much that you will be tired of winning.  rapterwarner
+5 Dr. Rahma DikhinmahasCome on man I know you're smarter than this. Ozymandia
+5 Associate quality has definitely declined. But the first comment above is spot on. It’s psrtislly a generation thing. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+5 I started on the debt side, at a bridge lender that originated and serviced all of their deals. I was there 4.5 years, but it took me almost 2 years to move into equity. wired.CRE
+5 As very, very general points, (1) yes the market has become more competitive as tides shift and new competitor banks (often boutiques) enter certain verticals, but (2) this takes years if not decades, and your reps and bro Count WACCula
+5 I had a shit first year review. Was told that I really only made some improvement towards the last 3 weeks lol. Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+5 Yes, hours on lending side are typically much less than on the advisory side. Junior folks on my team typically work 40-60 hours a week and rarely on weekends. Director in CB
+5 Lmao these replies are funny because McK is the better choice. The S&P team is not what makes JS special Intern in Consulting
+5 Prospect in S&T - Equities econometricks
+5 Your base expectations are already messed up because you come from MBB / client advisory where the expectation is to be outgoing at all times, have a cheerful face, and chit chat. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+5 “Why am I right and all the banks are wrong?” user_5991
+5 Sure you’re right but that assumes the owner actually can execute the business without said employee. patrick_bateman_
+5 What is it you aren't getting, learning or opportunity wise, at the current position? Addinator
+5 Reputation: NERA and CRA are generally strong across the big practices, Bates White is known mostly for antitrust / competition but have some presence in other practices too. Analyst 1 in Consulting
+5 am at LSE and can confirm this is unfortunately exactly how it is. especially because questions do not change even when interviewing with a real question lol Prospect in IB-M&A
+5 thought PE stands for Pain Enthusiast GS under Blankfein
+5 Totally agree with this. I should have been more specific for why I was recommending Audit, FDD, TAS, FP&A etc. RCJ92
+5 Couple thoughts  Research Analyst in AM - Equities
+5 PE sucks that said 1. Is positive, would love 90% of my calls to be calls and not performative Zooms where both sides have to set camera 2. Is also positive. HFPM15
+5 If you want to stay in the distressed / SS world, A&M hands down. Probably the pure play restructuring name, and executional heavyweights. Also amazing comp. Analyst 1 in PE - LBOs
+5 MS Associate 2 > Associate 3 Base: 225KBonus: 175KTotal: $400k Top AnonymousGrad
+5 No idea what half these posts are going on about West Coast (SF/MP, 2 offices) - Software, Internet, Semis, Other. East Coast - Software, Services, FinTech, Advanced Industrials (tech-y hardware), Other AnonOverdue
+5 I hear you bro. The performative MD benefits from their hiring and promotions. He is aware of their shenanigans but turns a blind eye because his bonus is linked to their inclusion. Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+5 Sounds like an immature, impatient, stupid and entitled brat, clearly born to become an MD Sharky286
+5 this is all nice and employer friendly... but you have to look our for your own career first. If this new place is a material step up, take the new offer and move on. Investment Analyst in HF - Event
+5 One of the best technical write ups i’ve seen on wso on this topic, nice Works at Goldman Sachs
+5 Why do people care about this? Genuinely? RBITDA
+5 [I meant to respond to an earlier comment but forgot to quote.] DBLBonds
+5 Totally same here...Have been on a ton of deals, but like you, we're buyside focused, so they die more often than not. Mastery 7 IB Shitter
+5 You are correct. The first version of my system was live when I posted that comment. TheorPhysicist
+5 . Analyst 1 in HF - EquityHedge
+5 You have to be absolutely sure you can make it in BUDs; otherwise, you are an undesignated sailor who is chipping paint. 18x is a lot more seasoned guys. MeltedIceCube
+5 Get a fucking life Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+5 More like 2024 Chicago white Sox  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+5 Opining as a nobody (aka not an admissions consultant…it might be worth some change to seek one out for proper feedback). I’d recommend option 2: PEPrincess
+5 If Marco isnt gone in the next 6 months, by the end of Q1 2026 post bonuses, my faith in firm wide leadership will be fully gone. Have heard multiple seniors say the same. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+5 what does tokat/cvp do thats so special compared to other strong platforms Anonymous Monkey
+5 get fit (muscular and cardiovascular), take the gmat / gre if you have any inkling about business school (can do this in 3-4 months of focused study), travel, have copious amount of sex, spend time with your loved ones (fa ChasingTheBag
+5  see in getting monkey shit from the hardos Research Analyst in HF - Other
+5 Communicate early about needing Sundays off (ideally before you get a teams message on Sunday in church). When you have downtime inbetween comments, dive into the word and get some Bible study in. seekinthealpha1
+5 Without a doubt, although I would argue that the rot goes back to 9/11 and the post-9/11 response and started there, just like someone older than me could point to some time in the 70s or 80s.  CRE
+5 Or the 1919 White Sox, doing everything to enrich themselves at the expense of the greater team and fans/analysts Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+5 heard baird industrials has protected saturdays! Associate 2 in IB - Gen
+5 OzymandiaA man who calls the Klan "very fine people" is a spokesman for white supremacy, full stop.  There really isn't any other interpretation. DrunkeyMonkey
+5 As of August 2025: Associate 1 in RE - Comm
+5 Adding my 2 cents here since I'm 5 years down the road of the path you described. Associate 3 in CorpStrat
+5 I agree with a lot of what you said especially what you said about a career as a big tech swe. Even then I would say its not entirely true as there are always landscape changing tech companies which pop up. monke33
+5 No one would take RJ/DC advisory over Wells Fargo. Also, why are we ignoring UBS/DB/RBC/Mizuho/TD? All of them are much more better than DC advisory. Congrats on AEC advisors and EFIG btw. SMU Final Boss
+5 Are you British? Then yes it's good. It's pretty hard for internationals at the moment unless you come from a super target. You'll just have to grind. Goj5979
+5 My guess is that Ryan doesn’t have advisors unless you count TD as an adviser. I think he prides himself on being lean and doing things himself. Hags28
+5 People ragging on you too much. Not everyone ends up as a pm and that’s fine. It’s still a great job as an analyst even if you’re a career analyst. sick_willy
+5 I have a Macbook Pro and a Lenovo ThinkPad, both for personal use. Mr Incredible
+5 All I’ll say here is think creatively - the LBO invented in 80s was truly at the cutting edge frontier of investing and that version of “cutting edge frontier” has evolved every decade or two. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+5 Bonuses will suck, more people will leave, and the slide will continue Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+5 Maybe this works better as a private fund or family office but this isn't legal advice.  Associate 3 in HF - Other
+5 Bain Chicago 100% 1) Chicago >>>> Cleveland2) Bain Chicago has a strong culture3) Bain generally has better mentorship and PD than McK (though they are relatively similar overall) Prospect in Consulting
+5 Agree, the smartest people in my group are usually the ones who are prioritizing exits and don’t give a fuck about their current job. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+5 Oof, seeing mid career and then graduated 2021 is a painful visual. For your sake, take a deep breath and contextualize your situation. You are still very early in your career and have plenty of time to figure this out. VP in RE - Other
+5 Epstein became a partner 4 years after getting fired as a high school math teacher. Makes you wonder local_finance_bro
+5 Not BB not EB not MM they’re in their own category but still closer to MM Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+5 Comparing siegecraft to iterating discussion materials.  Helpful to see that your original point, already a bit sad, was actually informed by delusion. CharlesCheese
+5 Using the database I count 30 new applications for H1Bs for GB in New York just this year Analyst 1 in PE - LBOs
+5 I cannot stress this enough - if you’re an ASO, VP, or D at BofA, not EE rated (95% of you), and have the chance to lateral to another IB… take it 100% of the time. I’m writing this as a cautionary tale. VP in IB - Gen
+5 Getting sucked into Muay Thai and BJJ is the most common error I see in beginners in MMA, and it really hinders them from developing any real skill. Risk Weighted Ass
+5 It’s the big 5 in Toronto, there is always an intern quality issue Intern in IB-M&A
+5 . Anonymous Monkey
+5 Analyst 3+ in HF - EquityHedge RCJ92
+5 Have you actually read research papers? Like, people trying to make these models cheaper. usernameladiesman217
+5 Hi,  interesting discussion. Bumping if anyone else has input.  Manager in CorpDev
+5 All of the articles are accurate. What private equity has eroded is essentially the business model/value of "caring about your customer". GS under Blankfein
+5 These are two that are popular in my household. About to make some Nonnas roll over in their graves, but they’re tasty and easy. Hugh Myron
+5 Depends on the fund you’re at. If you’re talented and lucky enough to be working at RenTech, that very much could be a golden ticket. Analyst 3+ in HF - Macro
+5 South Korea is a dying economy, possibly terminal. Tfr is below replacement rate already. Youth unemployment hits all time highs every year. People develop gambling addictions to try to escape poverty. Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov
+5 At a pod shop and was in a similar predicament. My thought process was ease of mind / capital preservation. Analyst 3+ in HF - Macro
+5 NoEquityResearch CRE
+5 It will most heavily impact all of the 'marginal' jobs and/or seats across the industry. Addinator
+5 Here are my thoughts. This is business. You made a deal. Your word is your bond. You now want to switch things up and change the deal. You’re in the lower position.  Hags28
+5 Is UBS non-target friendly ? wuandale33
+5 Depends on what you are studying at UCL. If you are doing something like Econ and be highly ranked in your class ppl will be more forgiving. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+5 I know it's been said already, but you need to leave that firm immediately. Your total comp isn't even close to entry level associate comp - you're quoting numbers I heard back in 2010/2011. research_guy
+5 DESCO > MMs > Brevan > BridgewaterIf comp, reputation, and career growth are your goals. Burke
+5 Helping you out with a few old comments I have. First, recognize no job is final and a career winds and twists in ways that aren’t obvious when you are younger. Principal in PE - Growth
+5 My personal opinion is a lot can change from now to then. The two guys now Matt and David are good. Let them run it for as long as possible. I like them both from what I know about them. Hags28
+5 order the smallest coffee and just suck it up man dont be weird  Associate 2 in IB-M&A
+5 In no particular order: m_1
+5 My little thoughts since no one else chimed in Nomura in the lens of the Japanese banks is like what credit Suisse was in the lens of European banks Hags28
+5 Was looking into their program and they placed at EVR x2, PJT, GS, JPM, GHL, multiple at Citi and multiple at BofA. On top of that, they got a Point72 placement which says it all in my opinion. secondariesdemon
+5 GHL linkedin logo bad, HL Research Associate in AM - FI
+5 The unfortunate thing is their reputation will never truly be done for. There will always be kids desperate to join the buyside who will chase academy despite everything that has transpired. This is a very cruel industry. Investment Analyst in HF - EquityHedge