+1 Legitimate investing decisions are not done by anyone at the asso/vp level in PE at this point. If you think otherwise, that is pure cope.  green_duck
+1 Incoming GS London but have some insight You do need to speak French for Paris IBD (this only applies to OCs and internships) they have some EMEA FIG but very small team if I remember correctly Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 Any views for a Europe-based US citizen (i.e. education and IB/PE experience in Europe)? What are the odds of lateraling to a PE role in NYC after a couple years in London / transfer within the same institution? itsbaka
+1 I agree with the poster above. But what are your reasons for wanting to move to the US from London? Have you spoken to people with experience on both sides? How strong is your current fund and deal experience? Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Almost all MF shops pay their RE associates equal to or just below their PE associates. Every one starts with a $3xxK. Associate 3 in RE - Comm
+1 If there’s good deal flow in DCM at your bank, you could exit to the buyside investing in debt instruments (similar to the debt instruments you were working with in your DCM group). curiousgeorge576
+1 What is your bank doing to prep for SA ‘28 recruiting? What’s happening on your end  curiousgeorge576
+1 Big tech seems like a cushy place to be. Why leave to go back to MM PE, which is a tough space? Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Why would you not just stay in corp dev vs go back to PE? Especially at a good firm.   Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Unbelievable Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+1 In terms of exits, PJT M&A has gradually become stronger (at least in Europe) - for example: from the previous analyst classes (i.e. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Seconded VP in PE - LBOs
+1 Shortcut AI is absolutely INSANE CowardlySEC
+1 I would quiet quit in place and use that time to network and apply to jobs Xhamster02
+1 your post history says you are an incoming BRG SA for SA 26, what is the need to do all this larping bro. BRG is a good shop and you don’t need to pretend to be.a banker to justify it Intern in IB - Restr
+1 you are allowed to take a gap year at western/ivey, it’s just not formally part of your program. but believe me, it is becoming increasingly more popular for western kids to go for off-cycle spots. leveraged_sellout
+1 Associate 2 in PE - LBOs Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 I don’t want to beat on a dead horse but I personally know of someone who has been working here for 8 years and now have to leave the country for good because her whole group ended up getting shut down before she received Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 current student at Cornell. Go to Stanford and don't look back.  Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+1 Go to Stanford Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+1 "The complex, unique financial modeling special sits would provide"  - if you are going for that, just go into restructuring consulting which tbh probably pays in-line with someone trying to enter special sits post-MB VP in Research - FI
+1 Essentially specialized DCM for public entities and nonprofits with municipal bonds instead of corporate bonds Incoming Analyst in IB - Cov
+1 2 years ago before promotion was 2nd yr associate MF debt and we were at 135K + 10-15k deal flow bonus and 25% bonus. VP in RE - Comm
+1 Any insights on return rates for the different groups? Intern in IB - Gen
+1 In a year's time your GPT will be able to act more WSO than WSO could ever do. onceismorethanenough
+1 I came to Rx Co from the undergrad level, and I’d still say likely Rx IB simply due to supply. Consultant in Consulting
+1 Agreed, but in your situation, your NW will be in the negative if you can’t get hired for these jobs because of the visa obstacles in the first place. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Hi! Heard the same from their HR. I do think that while the trader route is not guaranteed like before but they are changing things up. funnygal48
+1 was thinking about applying to the program as well, from everything i have read its legit and worth it. chimpin8890
+1 Responding to your comment, not OP's, if we're comparing RX IB and RX consulting, yes, RX IB has marginally less seats, as a summer intern. However, the reason for this is that RX IB just has less locations than RXCo. Associate 1 in Consulting
+1 Casio AQ230/240. nutmegger189
+1 Effron has to call his best friend Hilary for help. Business School in CorpStrat
+1 Ah, that makes sense. VP in PE - LBOs
+1 Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov WSOLBO
+1 echoing the above. leadership are good people, but sweaty culture, particularly at junior level.  Investment Analyst in PE - LBOs
+1 you're not wrong for feeling this way. swerveokay
+1 If you pick Cornell, you deserve to go to Cornell  Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Thanks for giving a good perspective here. It just hurts a lot because I worked so hard to get this job and I can’t even really think of anything during the internship that I did overtly wrong. Intern in IB - Cov
+1 unrelated but why even spend $200-$500 on a watch right now, just buy a nicer watch after bonus. to me spending money on something you intend to replace in a short amount of time is a waste of money. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Analyst 1 in IB - Cov WSOLBO
+1 Anyone heard back regarding MS IBD OC AC? Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 What abt LevFin? Thoughts on PE exits from here, or just PC? rolo25
+1 Location? TO or NY Associate 1 in PE - Other
+1 Anyone gonna mention the CEOs daughter? Unswingingdick
+1 GS would be most likely since they're building a campus there. Dallas is already a major presence for them in other divisions and that'll stay. Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+1 Listen it's all situational: I had to whore around to help a family member get a place for his work sabbatical post-MBA with a totally random precision engineering background, full hail mary pivot into any PE that would ta onceismorethanenough
+1 Why not a crypto portfolio? 50% BTC, 50% alt-coins VolatilitySmile
+1 Sorry to hear that man. Good luck in the future! ukystudent101
+1 "some constituent who isn't me"😂 captprice
+1 Just did Associate 1 in PE - Other
+1 I did it and landed at a EB some time ago. If you’re fully on top of your recruiting and networking grind you’ll place a job in ~2 months and party for the next 8. Find a good group  though, it’s a bit cliquey. Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+1 This + start looking into what may interest you. Yes M&A and Rx are constantly talked about on here, but there’s much more out there. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 I heard they give hard modeling tests that all the MDs would fail if they had to take them Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 It’s the usual advice. 3.8+ checks the box no questions asked.3.7 for me is fine as well, but it doesn’t hit the same. SOFRsoGood
+1 ~60% in FIG last year  Intern in IB - Gen
+1 Absolute sweatshop, have heard horror stories from friends. For perspective, the head of the Boston office was dming kids on LinkedIn to recruit analysts to join their group… [email protected]
+1 :( Prospect in IB - Cov
+1 I will add that the type of people you mention don't pay their analysts because it happened to them. Investment Analyst in HF - EquityHedge
+1 Probably will be a few larger names (BX, SW, KKR) that will open (or have opened) soon. Usually should see majority of firms start to hire SAs during the summer/fall. CREMonkeyz
+1 They get fired if ideas don’t work. It’s not just juniors, ppl at all levels do. But market has been ripping. That’s why a lot of the sector heads are pretty young. Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov
+1 It’s normal to rely on AI, but try not to skip that small moment where you ask yourself “what do I actually think about this?” Even a half-formed thought is important, that’s where your own thinking starts building. laman.bakirli
+1 I don’t know the full picture in your case, but I think a big part of it is how you deliver your story during the interview, that usually matters more than just the closing itself. You’re almost there. laman.bakirli
+1 If you work in a field like valuation or qofe services - that side of the business is fine and decent to work at. The IB division is a clown show.  Duke Draper
+1 SA at a BB for S&T. Hours are chill and we get 0 perks Intern in S&T - Comm
+1 used to be in ur position. chose GM TMT and honestly best choice i've ever made. now currently a VP at another bank and it gave me so much leverage and opened so many doors. givememoremoneeyyy
+1 why was it the better choice? Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov
+1 This is becoming rather trying. The UK has to start charging royalties to Americans for using the English language. sanjagolovko
+1 Thanks - would being a recruited athlete help? Received offer for basketball but I’m undecided since they are ranked second last in the nation (only ranked ahead of St. Mary’s College for Quadruple Amputees) FleeClashFoe
+1 Controversial opinion but I think PE internships are great. I did 3x6months so by the last one I was getting great reps. The pay is not good for finance c£36k p.a annualised but it is pretty good relative to gen pop. kbrudher
+1 in a word, no thebrofessor
+1 I don't think this is as big of a structural read as the headline implies. Investment Analyst in AM - Equities
+1 Thank you! Subscribed a while ago and have not been disappointed yet! Analyst 3+ in IB-M&A
+1 Just keep worrying about having fun playing sports, being a good teammate, getting good grades and making friends at school. heatdaddy247
+1 Offers out bankerz.
+1 exactly, I don’t want to be picky at all. For me breaking in is the hardest part. so in other words you recommend I go with BNP if it’s my only option right? i really just want to break in, that’s my big thing. misskels.tb
+1 I'm 32, wife is similar age. Our net worth is about $575k between cash, securities, and 2 properties (minus the mortgages.) Will pay off one of those properties this year or next, then will save fairly aggressively. kiltedlowlander
+1 Lmfao bro if you're leaving then this entire convo becomes moot - these people won't even remember you exist 2 years from now - Person who had very similar situation to yourself Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+1 bro is torn b/w unemployment and slavery Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+1 Why are you copying and pasting multiple posts about being the worst analyst and worst associate man, what is wrong with you. This job is not that hard.   Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 Its a lot harder but doable. EBs have all their seats filled save maybe one or two which go to laterals from equivalent or better banks. BBs is the same. attempting_doingmybest
+1 He's too young for an MBA assuming he just finished his UG. I don't think many programs will give him looks especially not without a few years of work expereince post grad. monkeyMAN8008
+1 Google “Good Looking Loser archive” and follow it to a tee, thank me later. Associate 1 in HF - Other
+1 If you are going back to IB, often a lot of bankers will try and discount your experience in PE. I would aim for a Senior Associate Title so probably an Assoc. 2/3. PeRmAnEnTiNtErN
+1 Still waiting? blacksquirrel87
+1 Damn you just sent me down a chicago drill rap rabbit hole jp0w
+1 Content creators and influencers. On_The_Edge
+1 Yeah that's true, moping around won't do much.  younggoodmanbrown
+1 Please tell us more wise one johnnypython
+1 misleading comparison. if u stripped major economic hubs like sf, la, nyc, & chicago, you'd see a big drop in the american gdp per capita too. shawarmagod
+1 If you’re some masochist that loves Times Square then maybe yeah Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 The new Intel "Panther Lake" processors that came out this year are beasts across processing power, AI and battery life. I've been eyeing the HP Omnibook Ultra (2026) or HP EliteBook X G2i (2026). Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 Good luck getting an answer Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 The two principals are going seperate ways. I think they are spending 99% of their time doing legal work. Waving the white flag BC_SS
+1 delete franker014124
+1 respectfully. Mike_wacczowski76
+1 Many people think the lifestyle will be better which pushes the change. Burn out for both is possible. Wait till you realize it’s a grind everywhere and the market outside of high finance is utter trash for trash pay. stephen4056
+1 VP2 at direct PE @ SWF/evergreen fund (not coinvest; PE and minority growth), SF 750 cash, ~1.5 DAW equivalent freefly716
+1 Glad its helping some of you!  LevFin Lab Newsletter
+1 Really really good returns. If I remember correctly lots of previous vintages had a 3x MOIC or were very close to it Intern in IB - Cov
+1 Well don’t you have roll ups you’ve worked on in your sponsor stint with M&a guys? SOFRsoGood