+7 Yes, this is directly based on my experience of working in the industry, as well as speaking with other women in the field. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+7 I'll be the crusty old guy that tells the young whippersnapper that at this point, you (probably) don't know what you want. MidasMulligan
+7 Have you tried putting BofA deez nuts in your mouth  Intern in IB - Gen
+7 Crazy take, but could you work for 2-3 years in the field - say oil field, oil rig, exploration, something upstream or downstream in oil or natural gas exports?  Not for the money, but for the experience. odog @digitalimmortality.com
+7 They can only go with him to Balyasny under very limited circumstances, and even then it’s not that straightforward. Investment Analyst in HF - Other
+7 Analyst 2 in IB - CovStill better than UBS  College Students: “does UBS still have good exits assuming you’re in a top group” Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+7 My point is just the way you’re going to resolve those debates consistently is probably just some form of data someone else can see. Even if they can’t, the way you trade will reveal a lot about what you think. Works at Citadel Investment Group
+7 How is this even a question? If you pick BofA over Lazard in any capacity you are legitimately retarded. BofA is a shit bank with shit bonuses and shit people. Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+7 Yes I’m an intern in AMERICA with LOTS of opportunity!!!! 30-40% unemployment rate for Indian grads btw!!! Good luck with your life buddy and have fun with the unpaid internships!!!! Intern in IB - Cov
+7 Marco is retarded is the most plausible explanation Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+7 Supply: You are seeing one of the biggest college student population coming into the funnel. 2024 and 2025 have some of the highest number of hs graduates. cheers look out
+7 Those making all those hiring decisions appear to be out over their skis Associate 3 in IB - Gen
+7 why did you steal the post from xhs lol plzgivemeajob
+7 This is a pretty normal progression. Up until 30, you're hitting so many big milestones that keep you motivated for the next one. NoEquityResearch
+7 Whichever bank I end up working for Pro Veritate
+7 Allen is the classic bell curve meme. Ppl outside finance never heard of it, ppl actually working knows that they are a joke nepo shop, but sophomores think they got some mystical aura. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+7 This 100%, and in fact I'd even go a bit lower on the total comp estimate depending on your industry. Associate 2 in PE - Other
+7 This thread is Exhibit A for why I stopped mentoring and interacting with juniors. So many cowards in the ranks these days. Analyst 3+ in Private Credit
+7 The thinking is bringing the cart before the horse imo. SaaSmaster
+7 i'm starting to think your interviews just didn't go that well bud... Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+7 I admire your mindset and respect that, at your age, you have an idea of how you want your life to play out and you'll do whatever it takes to get it. A couple thoughts for you to wrestle with: CharlesCheese
+7 Quick take - this is business, you’re making it personal. Aine
+7 Only know the public L/S side. They're focused on large caps with long holding periods and very little portfolio turnover, maybe 3-4 positions a year. Determined
+6 Research Associate in AM - FI. Nobody wants to help you get rich... accept maybe the people selling courses on social media lol.   Ozymandia
+6 I'm going to buy a snow cone machine ibmeatball23
+6 Rip Moelis SF Intern in PE - LBOs
+6 @Bloomberg Victor Swezey please investigate Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+6 This is the level of neuroticism that will make you an exceptional BB banker  CharlesCheese
+6 Hello Moelis intern... Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+6 Honestly I’ve heard mostly disappointment in these cases. Anchor
+6 Recruit for Barclays and rejoin UBS on a guaranteed bonus. Thank me later  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+6 I feel like most of the MDs are bum MDs  Probably 20% of the MDs generating 80% of the revenue… Intern in IB - Gen
+6 Apply to a Chinese banks then, or work to fix your own government Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+6 Yup because so many clients are speaking Hindi Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+6 Yes and you should be interviewing while you’re an intern too. You will regret joining UBS Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+6 I am Chinese and I know tons of Chinese/ABC students who can build a full LBO from scratch with detailed debt schedule, complex taxation, and return analysis. Associate 2 in IB - Gen
+6 yes ky9xnsz ur right, these posts need to be done at least 5 years down the line, but it just goes to show how delusional ppl in IBD are, and how seriously they take themselves Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+6 It's a trick question; the answer is not enough information. We need to know the location of the company. If it is in Anchorage they have a 10% deduction in profits to account for employees over eating on the clock lucien_de_montclair
+6 Big seconding of the above, you summed it up perfectly. Laughable how easy Americans think it is to break in, when in reality most banks only hire internationals if they are substantially better. International Monkey II
+6 asmith_1odog @digitalimmortality.com odog @digitalimmortality.com
+6 This is probably just a case of which school you like best.  Intern in IB- Mergers and Acquisitions
+6 If UBS were a baseball team they would be the Mets  Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+6 Jarvis do a background check on the last name Shiber Risk Weighted Ass
+6 cubist - one of the more attractive ones right now in the MM space, long time quant player with more established infra and think Geoffrey was a great hire for them so interested to see where they go. PM in HF - Other
+6 Next IB head, let’s stir this shit up. Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+6 Baird? VP in IB - ECM
+6 I worked mostly 8 to 5 most of the time as an underwriter. Once in a while, I work a bit on Sunday evening. When I was an underwriter, I had worked less than when I was an originator. So call it 45 hours. REDebt
+6 $450K - $800K stepping up from VP 1 - 4ish is a far more realistic comp range. Could top performing VPs catching an MD promo get to $1M, probably has happened, but that's nowhere near indication of realistic comp ranges. VP in IB - Restr
+6 Regarding the order of operations, I was addressing your question, "Has nobody even considered that AI enables investment banks to do *MORE* analysis, service *MORE* deals and therefore either keep headcount flat / i Hoomst MD
+6 Ecclesiastes 1:14 (NIV): dcfdestroying
+6 Correct me if I am wrong but it sounds like you have less than 1 year of total experience, and it is with Big 4 IT Implementation consulting? RCJ92
+6 Taking this from a previous WB HC thread: Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+6 How you react under pressure is something you are being tested for. You don’t want to appear too arrogant and defensive, neither do you want to appear as a pushover yes man. Investment Analyst in HF - Event
+6 If your prestige test is, "Hey, I went to ___ school. Nice to meet you," then Stern definitely edges Ross. Prospect in IB - Gen
+6 what are you long rn Analyst 3+ in HF - Event
+6 With your background, do not go back to IB just to do RX… you should get a look at the top shops with your current background and a good story to pivot.  Just reach out to HHs and start having conversations now. Investment Analyst in HF - Event
+6 Agency lender here. How small is the loan? Hopefully it is at least a $1MM loan, not many Agency loans get done below that amount. And candidly pricing is pretty punitive at below $2MM especially at 1.25x DSCR. Director in RE - Comm
+6 Copy pasting my response from an almost identical post from months ago: “I think you’re like, using buzzy words that overcomplicates why M&A is more about selling an experience than a “product” per se.” liquidiot
+6 ^^ real ball knower  UBS would never make it to a World Series though  Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+6 I’m an analyst at an EB and I got to do the first round screen for ~150 resumes from my school. First thing I did was CTRL+F for my investment club’s name. Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+6 I mean this earnestly, I was going to ask if your background is in engineering or not - because it seems you confuse rhetorical hand-waving for a literal hypothesis. liquidiot
+6 Americans are good at making connections with the client and knowing what they want. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+6 There are a few options, keep in mind that even after getting a h1b there is a green card waiting process which can be more than 2 decades for those born in countries like India and China: thegreatspoofing
+6 Current MiF Student at ESSEC here, so I‘d be happy to answer any questions you have. That being said, placement has been getting worse in recent years. Paris123456
+6 I'm a year or 2 out of the bucket, but I'll add my perspective: Location: Digital nomad (SEA and Latin America) Relationship Status: Dating Career: Ex-finance turned entrepreneur  datboi1234
+6 I was going to say it's very possible entering this thread, since I just made the move, but seeing as you're pretty young and don't have relevant experience, I'd say it's going to be tough. Lester Freamon
+6 Former PM ($1B AUM) here. Stop counting days. Start counting data points. I can't speak to the HR timeline, but I can tell you exactly what they're evaluating when you pitch. stockpitchlab
+6 got transferred to Zimbabwe check local offices there GS under Blankfein
+6 Stand by my prior statement on the VP. Be very careful around them and do not trust them. 95% chance they either gave the feedback or didn't care enough to pass on that you have been improving.  VP in IB - Cov
+6 This thread is out of my tax bracket Sigma.Batman
+6 Finance industry is shifting towards a more oval structure vs pyramid one with a bunch of Middle managers vs analysts due to AI (I'm not saying AI is competent, but mgmt believes so)While not perfect, DE& Gold-ManSacks
+6 "no face time, supportive team and a clear path to promotion" chill mate, that's not happening. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+6 Unfortunately this isn’t a novel idea but rather a quite mature approach. Your credentials (PHDs / clearance etc) are only a positive indicator if they come alongside a track record. Anchor
+6 Slimmy slimmy. Salamander partners is on the rise. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+6 Probably one of the least traditional exits from banking, but I was in a similar situation at the end of 2022. Completely burnt out and hating my life. I quit and pivoted into wealth advisory for HNW / UHNW clients. Prospect in IB - Gen
+6 It has a lot less to do with your degree or you personally and just the job market right now. It is utter dogshit. CRE
+6 Hey man, in no way shape or form am I saying this is your fault, life just isnt that straightforward.  Deal Team Six
+6 Associate 2 in IB-M&AYeah that’s how a country works lmao. The audacity of entitled foreigners good lord  Managing Director in IB-M&A
+6 The biggest issue I don't think anyone has really raised in this thread are the hardware costs. jarstar1
+6 PIMCO is a great brand, but you’re right to be realistic about the role...it’s mostly operational and the internal mobility into true PM/analyst seats is far from guaranteed. virginiagoffredi
+6 Overall the answer is it's fine! Keep in mind that even if your specific role doesn't have international coverage the firm most certainly does. virginiagoffredi
+6 I’d put IU Kelly (IBW only) up there probably below Harvard, but def above oxbridge. curiousgeorgefloyd
+6 PJT if u care ab analyst experience l50102
+6 What about removing one more 0? $4.5 million would be like being the “poorest rich person in America. The world’s tallest dwarf.” Pokemon Master
+6 The internationals at UBS aren’t actually better than Americans. They are generally less efficient and more incompetent, and UBS has unfairly favored them as they don’t push back and can’t leave easily.  Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+6 This is becoming true. For ex, heard Vandy got crushed this year with only a single PJT offer across the entire SA26 class.    rolo25
+6 Point72 Academ Analyst 1 in HF - EquityHedge
+6 Yeah Peel Hunt has been a target for a while, they still have some decent broking clients, but ECM in the UK has been a dead goose since 2021/22 slowdown. unders
+6 I didnt realize this but it checks out based on my group. UBS should be ashamed Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+6 UBS with no H1Bs would unironically be paradise and a great place to work.  Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+6 Depends on the FIG vertical you cover and what bank you're at. Top BB/EB will still get looks from all solid exit opps, even non-FIG related. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+6 Ngl this kid has balls of steel. I’d never sue as an intern. Intern in VC
+6 Thanks for letting us know you got 2 offers.  anonymous panda 1
+6 As greenblatt would say it’s picking up pennies in front of a bull dozer. Arb tourism is an easy way to get burned so if you are trying to pitch an event trade, prob not where I’d go. M_As_In_Mancy
+6 Alright so tried it on another test project today. Very solid results.  larry david
+6 I work at one of them and know someone at the other.  A few considerations: VP in PE - LBOs
+6 I bought a small landscaping business last year for under $2M. Self funded. SBA loan. I’ll try to provide some insight as shortly as I can. Enlightenment
+6 Depends on the level. The higher you go, it is more acceptable to stay at a certain level for longer. Generally, you should be a FA for 2-3 years. This is very tight- 3 years is the absolute longest one should be an FA. Corp_titan
+6 Update here for folks looking for comparable data points. Developer in RE - Comm
+6 This applies beyond recruiting - I do this with my network, even after I landed SA and FT positions. big_dawg