+12 VPS are working hours now like associates Associates are working hours now like analysts analysts are working hours now like moelis analysts no wonder they all want to quit Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+12 Yeah and all of those are manual labor jobs. You are not paid to create revenue. IncomingIBDreject
+12 We need more of this energy Intern in IB-M&A
+12 I will make three comments. 1) First, I feel very sad for you. Hopefully you can speak with your team and explain the situation. It sucks but sometimes you have to suck it up. Hölder
+12 The amount of insecurity in this thread is hilarious Devils Advocate
+12 Spiritually, I spent a year in a spiritual formation program in the snow covered forests of Canada.  Part of the focus was on Kenosis: Isaiah_53_5 💎🙌💎🙌💎
+12 CS arguably have better exits than BofA if you consider the thread from yesterday and the much smaller class at CS  Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+12 Intern in IB-M&A
+12 Well just go to tech / trading / HFT rather than complaining on WSO homie wrgwoqfgnoqrjgunoqgjqerg
+12 It’s not my sample set, it’s a pretty well established trope HBS grads have some pretty brutal hubris and often end up being more fluff than substance. Associate 2 in PE - Growth
+12 And those clowns in HFT are probably jealous of the unicorn cofounders who achieved a 8-9 figure liquidity event. Shit, those cofounder clowns are probably jealous of Bezos and Musk. You can always compare vs. VP in PE - Other
+12 we printed a ton of money to get out of covid. bankers gorged themselves on it instead of recognizing that you know it's a fucking plague and there are more important things in the world than deal fees. Pussy galore
+12 to anyone who's upset about what they've accumulated/not accumulated, there is hope. thebrofessor
+12 Northwestern mutual does not place that well in IB but I heard the music opportunities are great. makeIBgreatagain
+12 Yeah, play dodgeball with bullets. Pretty exciting, I think. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+12 Classic real estate greaseballs doing what they do best - jacking up prices, fucking people over, and providing absolutely no value while thinking they are gods gift to earth Analyst 2 in ER
+12 I’m guilty of this, but I do it because I used to just accept everyone that added me and then one day my LinkedIn feed was full of students congratulating themselves for overcoming first world problems to land a job at Pip Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+12 Only low-30s, but similar boat. I have no issues with admitting that I was an overconfident dumbass in my 20s (not saying you were LOL), but a lot of those fuck-ups paved the way for where I am now. Stonks1990
+12 Maybe you can try to "time the market", so to speak. Wait until when he's down 60% in one day due to the volatile shitcoin he's in, and then have a talk and see if he's more receptive. Or, you can try to out-degen him. Research Analyst in HF - Other
+12 *Houlihan Lokey mfers have entered the chat Intern in IB - Cov
+12 Hey guys, thank you for your support. I don't have time to read everything but in general the wso devs are safe for now. Sylchuk
+12 Surprised nobody has given advice in the other direction on this. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+12 It really depends on what you're looking to do. Here are some general observations and TBH I'm not sure to what extent covid has changed it. lisuslican
+12 Who gives a fuck? Lmao I cannot imagine liking some chick and then realizing she isn't well off and parting ways. If we click we click, if not then that's that. Prospect in IB-M&A
+12 Hmm yeah don’t do Starwood because then you won’t be able to exit to do DCM at an investment bank Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+12 As an intern I had an abusive full time. It made me consider leaving the industry entirely and completely defeated my confidence that summer. Associate 1 in PE - Growth
+12 Tech: 10/10. Was in MBB (2/10), so the relative change is staggering. I workout regularly, have learned to cook, and most of all have plans on weekdays. Analyst 2 in Consulting
+12 I appreciate the input, I guess I'm just of the opinion that if you are new the expectation is you should be willing to send out a dial-in. CompBanker
+12 Nontarget here who broke into banking. I see some of that, but not enough to be as disillusioned as you are. You must be butthurt as hell over fucking up recruiting or a bad networking call lmao. Prospect in IB-M&A
+12 Someone should start another thread "How to Become a Billionaire in Two Easy Steps!" Step 1: Create a business Step 2: Earn a billion dollars Ozymandia
+12 Just some random thoughts here - I'm on my phone so excuse any grammar errors or typos. Anonymous Monkey
+12 Thanks Sil. The_Regulator
+12 EVR/LAZ/BMO/Mizuho/PJT banana_street
+12 so not HL Intern in IB - Gen
+12 Why don't you just develop faster Turd-Ferguson
+12 I can see the headline now...... “Moelis Staffer Body Slams Analysts in a Fit of Roid Rage” RxGonGivItToYuh
+12 I deal with this question a lot as I help bring our analysts along.  It's a tough question because everyone gets in the business to do deals, but there is just so much that goes into getting a deal done that is beyond Count_Chocula
+12 Hahaha you get an offer and put lowly UBS in quotes now? People like you suck Intern in IB - Gen
+12 Same thing happened to me when I was recruiting for 2026 SA and it wasn't an issue. Analyst 1 in PE - LBOs
+12 As a CS and MATH major who turned down quant offers for EB. The average FAANG SWE engineer will not make more than the average person in a top IB/PE/HF gig. Shockattack11
+12 Business is War - The best companies (that is, the companies that pay the highest wages, offer the most room for advancement, and are stacked with the most talented people) are EXTREMELY political environments, and anythin CuriousCharacter
+12 Wdym you "lost" "your" internship....it was never "yours" so you didn't "lose" anything. You reek of entitlement.  Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+12 When PE shops will finally have a good incentive to hire bottom buckets analysts Pan European Monkey
+12 I think you're the biggest pussy I ever had the chance to lay eyes on, with the exception of your mom of course bottombucketMD
+12 Your soph SA is the year before your junior SA (which comes before you go FT) - for example if you are URM and did OCR at HYP you may have the opportunity to do soph SA to then try and go FT to EB IB (PJT RSSG) or even MBB Barney_Stinson
+12 It's amazing how totally comfortable people are on this forum with corporations and the capital class essentially stealing from the middle class for three decades via stock market manipulation, capital gains/corporate tax BobTheBaker
+12 I’m the same guy that posted a controversial thread the other day about not being friends with your coworkers. Here’s my advice hopefully more nuanced so people agree with it more uniformly this time: Associate 2 in PE - Growth
+12 Do you want an honest feedback? Your email is pointless and arrogant, you don’t have an offer from the other bank, you’re just interviewing. You’re also hinting that bank is CS. PatrickBateman1
+12 Totally agree. The difference between men and women is that women carry an emotional bond with every single man they have sex with whether they’ll admit it or not. Global_IU_11
+12 I’m with these guise. That said, I’m out. Mumbles
+12 Making posts on WSO about whether RBC is a BB now Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+12 I know that the wise choice is always wait until you have a job bf you leave your current.  That being said, most people spend most of their waking time at work.  Being in a toxic, dysfunctional environment is re Robb9
+12 There needs to be a rule about people asking what offer they should take before even interviewing with any of the firms. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+12 For me this struggle with the "success culture" started in high school. ChrisHansen
+12 You’re going to hate this industry  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+12 I am a Republican who goes to UC Berkeley, and a decent number of people I know on campus are conservatives. Most people don't think of Berkeley students as radical liberals, and it definitely won't affect recruiting. Intern in IB - Cov
+12 Random ones: CompBanker
+12 Like networking? I'm at a prop shop right now with some pretty stressful hours, but I was 100% in the shoes of the undergraduates literally a year ago. traderguy123
+12 It's led by Jon Korngold who was well-respected at General Atlantic. He spent a year building a team that drew from logos like Carlyle, NEA, A16Z, TCV, and Vista. APAE
+12 Please don’t listen to 80% of the posts here. They have no context. I went to IU and was in the IBW. [email protected]
+12 earthwalker7
+12 Used to use a small bank in my hometown where my dad helped me get by first debit card when I was 16. In college I opened a Chase account. Fast and Fiduciary
+12 Hardest take (and I believe this sincerely): all investment bankers are idiots. They missed out on their entire lives. Stop Banning My Accounts
+12 This is 100% what I'm experiencing at the moment.  The Real John Smith
+12 Barack Obama becomes the first black president; I was in middle school and they even held a special school assembly, and that’s the only school assembly I remember. I’m 23 arbit-RAGE
+12 So you are on a 4 person deal team with an incompetent associate and VP, but you and the MD are texting each other closing billion dollar deals. Cool bro.  Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+12 Seriously. This is "Wall Street Oasis" and the Great Recession wasn't immediately top 3? CRE
+12 So I did something similar when I was an senior Associate. I lateraled to a very well known and successful BB that wasn't a sweat shop, but it had tough hours (at least for Analysts to Associates). TorontoMonkey1328
+12 So I'll be the contrarian here. Go for it. Seriously. Quit, pack your bags and go. Life is short and it will all work out. Gini
+12 I'd throw Houlihan Lokey after their acquisition of GCA in the mix. Intern in IB-M&A
+12 Former Bainie here. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+12 The first thing you should realize when trading, is that both fundamental analysis and technical analysis are re ironnchef
+12 Fattest Monkey I was prior involved in interview processes for O&G coverage at GS and LAZ Houston TX. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+12 She wouldn’t be saying the same thing if it was an all women team caesarchimp
+12 "rk007" Hi! Thanks so much for doing this. Deo et Patriae
+12 Valencia is like the underdog of futbol in Spain and the fans are die hard. There is a lot of team spirit in the city and people will yell at you from across the street in excitement if you're wearing a VCF jersey. Isaiah_53_5 💎🙌💎🙌💎
+12 Jesus Christ I hope #1 is a joke. #3 is a joke in its own right, so #2 is your best option and a good one. Analyst 2 in RE - Comm
+12 GS MBA Stub Associate (AS0) base: 175k, 401k match stub bonus: 100k, all cash sign on: 60k Walking away with almost 250k pre tax all in for ~6 months on the desk. Surreal. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+12 *you’re 6969
+12 Please film yourself when they have you walk through the model. WSO could use more comedy. Associate 2 in RE - Comm
+12 Starting your own business is hard. Dick Steele
+12 Leftist ideology has always appealed to the 'I am so smart' and 'I am so caring' crowd, with policies that play out well in theory but never in practicality because they want to view the world through the lens of ideal hum Anonymous Monkey
+12 Never merge cells in excel FinancelsWacc
+12 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/e19t7l8q5y5ctbj/AAB4DohzOZQUML28iXR7Tbzna?dl… Count_Chocula
+12 If you're comfortable with it, it would be terrific if you put these in the shared drive that the forum has going for models and other innocuous excel files. Count_Chocula
+12 I can point to a moment recently in my career: Director in CorpDev
+12 Here it is simplified. C.R.E. Shervin
+12 At the risk of sounding gauche (as there are a variety of nuances to everyone’s life decisions that can never be conveyed through anonymous written forum), am I missing something?   ihatethefed
+12 On the flip side, when I was an analyst in S&T I went apeshit on a Director in a meeting with ~20 people, including a few partners (GS). After the meeting my direct bosses pulled me aside to reprimand me. TechBanking
+12 posts like this are what make me embarrassed to recommend WSO as a recruiting resource Intern in IB - Gen
+12 I just did a write up on one of my experiences on the LevFin side on an Apollo deal. 10x Leveraged
+12 27 at the moment. Real talk, finding a meaningful relationship is the least of my concerns right now. Young, relatively successful, which also probably make me more handsome. Ruleof72
+12 del LinkedInPremium
+12 Referring you to his superior is in a way asking him to stick his neck out (ever so slightly) for you and vouch that you passed his litmus test. deathTouch
+12 Active duty Marine officer here. Still in training and obviously different service, but hopefully I can add something to the conversation... NoTime
+12 LSD Prospect in IB-M&A
+12 At MBB, so not quite LEK, but I have also heard that their WLB is at least as bad if not worse than ours. Let me give you some insight into why the hours are like this, from solely a process perspective kigiya1594
+12 Sleeping pills, lots of them. No I'm not talking melatonin, you want some Xanax or Valium. Make sure you take them each night and take a big enough dose that you're still fucked up in the morning. Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+12 >keeping gf in IB bro gimme a post about getting one Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+12 Have heard that BMO Mining group up in Canada is a sweatshop Analyst 1 in IB - Gen