+1 U can be personal and concise dualism
+1 Presumably you have a phone and headphones. Podcasts, audio books, articles from intelligent sources, set your fantasy team, browse websites that are only 33% AI Slop, etc.  IsItREPE
+1 It’s called performance punishment. When you’re more competent and faster than everyone else on the team people naturally want to assign their work to you because they know it will get done fast with no problems. Associate 3 in IB - CB
+1 same got it for trading lekdodo
+1 Guess we’re cooked for the summer cause the hvs  are basically the same lol Intern in IB-M&A
+1 Opt for quality over volume. It doesn’t have to be a “connection” per se, but find people from your same hometown, school, major / minor (if it’s something non-generic like finance), clubs, sports, Greek life, etc. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 decisions being finalized, hear back today/tmr maybe FIGchimp
+1 RE secondaries are trading at 70 cents on the dollar, while secondaries for buyouts and private credit are around 90-92 cents on the dollar. carriedinterestfan
+1 wuandale33"Just shave it bro" is the worst advice ever IsItREPE
+1 bump immo203
+1 Pretty sure I know what group this is, Houston IB is famously an extremely grindy culture and one of the larger companies there is both very acquisitive doing big deals + the corp dev team prides itself on working a ton. Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+1 GS MS obviously still relevant JPM far less distinguished vs US Europe position (IMO). Probably same tier as BofA and maybe Deutsche, which is more relevant for SEA/SG Prospect in PE - LBOs
+1 Thank you for the detailed answer! I was curious about your "capped at some firms" point for VCs and was hoping you could clarify. I guess what I'm trying to distinguish is that is it a hard ceiling (i.e. tophat
+1 Chicago alloutblaze15
+1 I mean what do you want to do next. 9-9s most days + occasional all nighters is insane for corp dev. Sure you're comped decently well, but is this what you want to do for the rest of your career?  NuclearPenguins
+1 Just to respond to the commenters of my comment. It is very unusual for a lady to be gunned down in a terrorist attack in the middle of midtown Manhattan while she is in her 40s. Young kids at home. Hags28
+1 The last thing I would want to do after spending all week working is to hang out with more finance bros  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Bump/update: made it to the second round, people seem great. Can't get a great read on WLB. Analyst 2 in Consulting
+1 This is stupid. People make jokes. Get over it. Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+1 I just got the super day for Chicago as well best of luck! CreditBanker
+1 ah ok are offers out yet? will they be calling? Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 Shana Tova Umetuka! Wishing you and everyone on WSO a sweet and prosperous new year. May your deals close smoothly, your trades hit the mark, and your career soar to new heights. WSO Monkey Bot
+1 Are you presenting options you actually have available to you? If so, Option 1 is a no brainer unless you're incredibly ambitious in the business world and have no other interests outside of work. readthe10k
+1 Yea option 1 sounds good That said if my family was horrible option 2/3 also seem like good options 🤣 Hags28
+1 Anonymous Monkey: postal-leases-4u postal-leases-4u
+1 Send her my way OP, I'll take good care of her. Very good troll post btw will SB on recharge readthe10k
+1 Dump her. She deserves better. StardustCrusader
+1 In my very humble opinion. Focus on what trading actually is. What are the dynamics of the desk (flow, risk tolerance, desk structure, etc.)? Start trading energy/commodities - you definitely can. ratemyswap
+1 ^ This. I know a couple guys from UChicago who struck out during IB recruiting. They ended up at hedge funds curiousgeorge576
+1 Anonymous Monkey: Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Anonymous Monkey: Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Hope none of them dumb enough to accept lol they will regurt  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 A committee process doesn’t automatically make the outcome objective or transparent. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 HR vetting doesn’t necessarily prove the underlying decision was objective. HR is reviewing what the group documents, and that documentation is still created, selected, and framed by the same people making the decision. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Edit Associate 1 in PE - Other
+1 I’m not arguing with you about your group or saying every non-return was unfair. I’m simply pointing out that people reading this thread shouldn’t assume the process is perfectly objective or uniform across the firm. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Anonymous Monkey: Edit Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 I know enough about UBS Tech and RBC FIG to know neither are paradise. Barclays tech probably the same  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Yeah, he should’ve gone with the lobster. Goes down the throat much more easily bananabean
+1 Can anyone give any context futurerockstar56
+1 Bro just reading this, but since you've likely already started school and learned about timelines, hopefully you know this already. and the other guy who responded to you also said this. Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 kama sutra zuriwasser
+1 Marketing before IPOs. They’re also pushing to have their entire business model be regulatory capture. The want the industry regulated up the butt.  user_5991
+1 Did one of the programs (not P72) and the biggest pro was being able to interview with numerous scaled and tenured PMs and having some ability to influence which team i first joined which is basically the most important de Analyst 2 in HF - EquityHedge
+1 Have not gone through one of these programs but I think your supposition that one of these seats is not so great because of RO likelihood/exit ops ignores what a hedge fund guy/gal is in it for. Research Analyst in AM - FI
+1 Join clubs that meet regularly every week, then they invite you to other events via partiful, and then get more invites, etc. etc. Key is to befriend the social organizers SomeCaliberTalent
+1 Today the political yield of using AI still exceeds the productivity yield of using AI. Associate 3 in AM - FI
+1 As someone who was late to the game, it was towards late 20s/early 30s (left ~ASO2) when my dad got diagnosed with cancer. MidwestBankr
+1 Thank you so much for the quality answer SBed. Seems like deal rep, especially considering the sizes of two firms, Cohen seems to be doing better for M&A (though ECM is different for HC). Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 Is it time to consider a Masters jn finance Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 The big tech industry seems to indicate that it's both.  Intern in IB - Cov
+1 I think people from finance families are fine, but some people from poor backgrounds might contribute to higher burnout rates. Intern in IB-M&A
+1 gang you're not helping yourself Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+1 its so common these days that whatever hangups people used to have about it as a mark of rudeness (justified or not - can see both sides) - is a tiny minority more or less it's accepted practice these days Research Analyst in HF - Other
+1 It will be ordinary income rather than LTCG. Tax treatment is calculated at the investment level, not the fund level. boneappletea
+1 Or it’s proof UBS will drive a mfer crazy  Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 BX's London infra team is literally ~15 people on the investment team (vs. ~50 at KKR/EQT) so not sure how your math is mathing here. Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+1 On the slight chance your assessment is correct, you still just do what the analyst says. The analyst vote/reference will matter more than the VP for your purposes. Anchor
+1 Im on a similiar track too as mentioned in my comment above. Associate at my firm in IB probably pays around 175-200 vs. at a larger bank it would be 260 all in. bzfracas
+1 None of that matters. You can submit a cold app and network afterwards. If you make a good impression and they want to help you, they can get in touch with HR/the desk and move the process along. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 He initially got a job at an NFL team and moved up the ranks. Research Analyst in AM - FI
+1 They’re utterly unprofitable, AI products are still full of errors, they gobbled up all the available spare capital and investors demand even further yields.  gelato_cuspids1d
+1 one thing i'll just add is that if you're going to an LO for a role as a country generalist make sure you get a clear idea of what you're going to do and what companies roughly they want you to cover and what gap you're tr marketMergerMaddie
+1 Go to the headhunters’ websites and drop your resume into their application. If it’s solid, they should reach out to you. Also shoot an email to their generalized inbox. Healthcare Blues
+1 Do this as well sometimes, just took a staycation for a week as well, which helped to recharge the batteries. asdf1248
+1 Sorry for your loss Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+1 Curious how this actually played out for you since it's been a couple of years? Hanlon
+1 In theory one but I’m too international and like walkable cities too much for 1 in the us sadly  Works at Goldman Sachs
+1 Im in a similar boat, and tbh im going to stay on the track until at least a year of PE. Prospect in IB-M&A
+1 I’m in a very similar spot but I just moved to a large regional bank with the intention to pivot internally after 1-2 years. Associate 3 in RE - Comm
+1 Doing all this for firms to not even read your CL lol  Intern in IB-M&A
+1 Restructuring, FIG, infra  Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+1 Dude idk who you're getting this advice from but I've never in my life heard anyone say this and I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter... Didn't really need to write 10 paragraphs on it nutmegger189
+1 Would hit all of the advisory only banks - Moelis, Laz, Roths, HL, Evercore etc. I think only CVP doesn't do debt advisory. ultracrepidarian
+1 The very simple and almost entire answer is that Wall Street doesn’t pay young people what they used to. 8.43 13.5
+1 Also experiencing this from ftp lol Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 I’m in exactly the same position, and it makes it hard to think about what to do next because it feels like literally everybody around me is obsessed about IB / finance  Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+1 Hahahh this is too good, they run a distressed equity book now but it's because they were early Retired in AM - Other
+1 nobody asked you to invade a country buddy. You know what you signup for.  chickennugget801
+1 screening call, from the application? rib223
+1 That sucks. I’m mildly autistic but can sort of mask it.  Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+1 Join a group a lot of Autists join Gold-ManSacks
+1 That's wonderful to hear, congratulations man. PrivateTechquity 🚀🚀🚀
+1 I think, in this case, it's worth taking a look at Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men.George wanted to help Lenny as much as he could and did his best to keep the lovable idiot out of the fire. Was wollen wir trinken
+1 My man you were the least important thing on his calender you’ll be fine dantheman_1_01_01
+1 Real capital analytics is the best mainstream 3rd party data source imo that doesn’t get enough love. jmr206
+1 Congrats man! Happy for you! Analyst 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Yes great fundraising thus far. Founder (Philip Uhde) is a really tough cookie to work for. Not a good guy. Analyst 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 The Director didn’t vouch for you as much because he had an understanding with the MD / Sponsor of other Snr. AS. If he messes with their promotions then the MD will use his influence to retailiate against the D. Director in IB - Cov
+1 uchicago without a doubt. would be sell if not. stern is second closest but uchicago all the way. almost guaranteed a chair in banking unless you hard sell. unleveredalpha_
+1 ... loser1234
+1 This is simply not ture. They also implement womens quotas... while applications are mostly men. loser1234
+1 I am track 3.  emacias1424
+1 Because this is a banking/PE forum of a mainly students who don't know anything  jl12
+1 Also from the NYC area and was around the same age. The only childhood day I vividly remember, to the smallest details.   NewIndustryHorizon
+1 They kept extending it because I was actually doing the job and HR told my boss they didn't have enough to fire me yet. By month 3 I found another job. The guy left the firm shortly after.  Associate 3 in IB - CB
+1 What's the interview process like?  Intern in IB-M&A
+1 From past cycles, Lincoln superdays skew more behavioral than the EB sweat-fests - they are a lean MM shop, so they are hiring for people they want on lean deal teams. LedgerShelf
+1 Nice reminder that 90%+ of current WSO users were born after 9/11. VP in PE - LBOs
+1 The majority in Canada is prob Indian lol Analyst 1 in IB - Gen