+7 My two cents - I think the demographics are there, but senior living is by far the most operationally intensive asset class in real estate. Most real estate investors/developers are not set up to do well in this space. CRESF
+7 It’s not about the size of the bulge, it’s about how you use it Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+7 Whoever made this list has literally no idea what they are talking about. It’s easily one of the worst I’ve seen on the forum to the point it’s likely engagement bait Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+7 Wait till he finds out the average buysider doesn't even come close to beating the SPX either. MMPM
+7 lol from everything ive heard about dare its a tough choice between them vs unemployment Intern in Private Credit
+7 I don't think it will ever be a major financial hub, except for entities covering LatAm from there. My perspective: PE-biz-dev
+7 Am a VP now. I love life. Associate 3 in IB - Gen
+7 Intern in IB - Cov
+7 I think the red flags are fairly apparent... to discredit them seems disingenuous. At a high level: Developer in RE - Comm
+7 Heard from a friend there that it's a sweatshop Analyst 1 in PE - LBOs
+7 2 things. Principal in PE - LBOs
+7 Yes, do NOT sign. Don’t be pressured into anything. It sounds like they are already backing off / realizing they overstepped. Now they’re hoping you will help them out of the corner they painted themselves into. Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+7 The answer is somewhere in the middle. Works at Greenhill & Co.
+7 Sounds like you're well on your way even though it's a grind right now! Would love to know a little more about your startup model... Associate 1 in RE - Comm
+7 I admire your mindset and respect that, at your age, you have an idea of how you want your life to play out and you'll do whatever it takes to get it. A couple thoughts for you to wrestle with: CharlesCheese
+7 In PE you are part of a large deal team doing well defined tasks / problems with full information and minimal direct feedback loop given to you outside of whether you do the well defined tasks you’ve been given effectively SlipperyWhenDry
+7 I have an American friend who worked for one of the African private equity investment funds you mentioned. She did have prior private equity experience, but went through the Summer MBA path. Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+7 Hey man sorry to hear this. If you’ve been in IB for a year you can probably exit to some other less stressful role. Analyst0910
+7 Accept Dyal and say you work for a Goldman Sachs Banker. Chicks would recognize that name, and you wouldn’t even be lying either. Analyst0910
+7 This thread is Exhibit A for why I stopped mentoring and interacting with juniors. So many cowards in the ranks these days. Analyst 3+ in Private Credit
+7 Ling is a woman dawg ubersomesam
+7 Sup. Principal in Private Credit
+7 I'm 4 years into PE and while hours have been more predictable than banking, they're about the same if not worse at times, with stress levels significantly higher than you could ever experience in banking just given the fu Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+7 Only going to speak on the funds I have a lot of insight on, will let others opine on the rest from your list: Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+7 Swap LAZ and CVP for exits, EVR and PJT as well as PWP and MOE for comp, CVP and EVR for M&A, and delete the random culture ranking that doesn’t make any sense. lomoney
+7 This has really affected me. I grew up during a time when UBS was a solid top tier BB - NO doubt about it. They were kings in my eyes. My father used to tell me many stories about the great Ulysses B. fuckshampoo21
+7 These are less do xyz to be a good analyst and more rules of the road. Congrats on landing the offer! Rabbit
+7 I won’t give you unsolicited advice but maybe this will be a helpful perspective. AGNRX1188
+7 Partially true.  Quant in HF - Other
+7 No, nobody said you’re an Andrew Tate. But you write and sound like a mega incel who hasn’t touched a woman since covid, so there’s that Benson Says
+7 Yes, 100%. The drain of walking into an office with people you are fundamentally misaligned with is difficult to convey. I am learning real skills and having to think critically. FundingSecured
+7 Lol. Unreal ego, someone was receptive to your call that’s why you’re an Analyst today. Some fool will climb become too big and look for way to destroy the ladder davani1420
+7 Doing tricks on it over here Dow70K
+7 This site is hilarious because if you replaced “northeast men” with minorities or asians or whatever other demographic, the comments would be filled with outrage.  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+7 It's doable (I did it), but it's an uphill battle. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+7 It can vary wildly and depends on your group’s dealflow and your personal ambitions. On the surface, you’re right - from a pure time perspective (time sat at desk / in front of computer) it does look good. Director in IB - Cov
+7 Dudes looking for every reason to put BMO m&m in the same group as goldman and Moelis lmfao Intern in IB - Cov
+7 in HK there's the concept of "white monkey" jobs. It basically entails being a good looking white dude dressed in a tuxedo at fancy events serving food and other menial labor. Associate 3 in PE - Other
+7 Tech bros have this unique skill to describe the most mundane, uninspiring and useless part of a job/workflow as if it’s the greatest technical feat of humanity. liquidiot
+7 Ideally your MD won’t be throwing you under the bus in front of the client - it’s a bad look overall since it messages poor team unity. Director in IB - Cov
+7 A lot of this is google-able, but here you go anyway: Multif@mily4Life
+7 DB and Veritas I heard. So maybe some of the stories are true if he actually was at Veritas haha. Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+7 I see your point, but if that logic held, why would any company partner with a PE firm at all? Lebronto
+7 This one might be an interesting. Tanno
+7 When I realized I would never do better than being an investment banker, and would always be a loser compared to PE and HF gods, I decided to beat them in the other half of life, the personal life. Smoke Frog
+7 I’m doing a search rn and did MF PE. apetrynamakeit
+7 In my opinion, most analysts (Wharton kids are different) do not actually know what the fuck they’re talking about and can’t even begin to graduate to the level of being an actual “person” until like their 2nd year of bein SOFRsoGood
+7 Holy shit you always post the most retarded takes Partner in IB - Gen
+7 The thing I always found funny about pitch books is, as someone who has spent almost my entire career on the receiving ends of those pitches, we never need more than 3 pages to know if a pitch is worth seriously doing work jl12
+7 Indiana has been fucking murdering it no clue how lmao Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+7 In a sources and uses setting think of it like this:  Acquirer Equity = $500M Let's assume 100M shares outstanding Acquiror Share Price: $5  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+7 You should get berated for shit grammar theg3ntlem4n
+7 What is the Apprentice to Master promotion timeline at UBS? Currently comparing offers from UBS and a Chattanooga, TN-based IT M&A boutique.   Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+7 GS under Blankfein Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+7 Focus on the team and the learning - careers are long; plenty of people get the shit kicked out of them in banking 2.0 at a megafund for three years, don't close a platform and then have to look for alternatives which is a Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+7 Can't speak to the team dynamics Moelis, but Doug Pierson was well-liked at Credit Suisse when he was head of Americas industrials. The guy works extremely hard and expects his team to do the same. Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+7 that is fucking amazing man Analyst 3+ in Private Credit
+7 I'm obviously not a women, so take anything I say with a grain of salt. Though I can probably give a non-jaded perspective SoldMySoul
+7 I’ve been in the industry for almost 20 years. Ignore the title. I think if that’s your end goal, PE is a good training ground and branding. But I would do that for no more than 2 years. Principal in PE - LBOs
+7 Pendelum swings back and forth, and at the receiving end of it are always those without power. Funny how that works. Companies appease government policy across countries and across policies. Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+7 bro where can I get a VP like this...?  Analyst 3+ in Private Credit
+7 I would never say no to a coffee chat if it was an Asian bro. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+7 Touch grass Intern in IB - Restr
+7 Top Canadian firm leading the upcoming SpaceX IPO fingereater505
+7 The Evercore slander lately about their big class has been crazy, exits are still top notch because having a big analyst class isn’t always equal to worse exits. Also, there are some really strong groups (e.g. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+7 This thread screams of embellishment / bsing to me The amount of people that supposedly know the precise # of MF/UMM placements for their non top group is odd  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+7 agreed. DB is a fucking machine in EU, specifically Germany. FIC group is top tier there. Prospect in IB - Cov
+7 What a retarded ascl
+7 Touched a nerve…haha your mom said it’s time for bed son. Please don’t make her take your computer away again. Maybe tomorrow we start looking for that job? Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+7 dagestan and forget Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+7 Again coming from the guy who will always be bottom ranked professionally… I wouldn’t take league table comments too seriously…banks move up and down you are destined for a squigee and plunger my friend…we all play our par Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+7 Thorough list. You missed Frost Bank (great for tractor equipment financing), Amegy Bank (depreciated F-150s) and a handful of elite pawn shops  chromium73
+7 Hi IB_333, Here’s how I’d structure learning if you’re starting from zero. Infrastructure modelling blends accounting, corporate finance and cash-flow logic that’s quite different from typical corporate deals. Luke.F
+7 "What interests do you have outside of finance" - I couldn't answer and just stared blankly at the Associate. He nodded and said don't worry, you'll fit right in.  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+7 Do you have like an auto prompt to chat gpt to rephrase the same thing once a week? Associate 1 in PE - Growth
+7 I went the entrepreneurial route in 2022, perfect timing...haha... It was myself and another partner who is a bit older than me and had the resume / name familiarity. CapRate_Compression
+7 What’s even more pathetic is this non-stop campaign of yours is either some mental release or trying to sway where college kids go. Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+7 Type of moral leadership UBS is currently under Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+7 I’m half joking. I empathize with your feeling - I think it’s fairly common. Most PMs are not good managers. That being said, the industry has always been like this and it forces you to learn and adapt. Investment Analyst in HF - EquityHedge
+7 Heard at least an associate in GIG but believe there are more Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+7 Happens all the time, I've been there and tons of friends of mine have been there. One bit of advice I'd give: econometricks
+7 Ah yes because I get a real kick out of lying to strangers anonymously on the internet... D*ckhead Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+7 Congrats on discovering ChatGPT! Tbh, I don't think you are convincing anyone of anything. Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+7 got me crying in the club on this beautiful Friday Mike_wacczowski76
+7 Next 2 years will look a lot like the last 2 years Associate 3 in IB - Gen
+7 Question for people in this thread, with all honesty - are you guys looking at growthier sectors or just not haircutting management plans much? VP in PE - LBOs
+7 Yeah it’s pretty funny the best business models are everything an advisory firm is not, but the main reason you don’t see bankers doing what you’re proposing is because the type of person who is a talented banker and the t liquidiot
+7 Associate 2 in RE - CommI hope for the sake of you are a new grad. CRE
+7 It’s funny because their entire goal is to become Barclays (sixth). It’s like the entire bank is built on the rage that one banker had in not getting promoted at Barclays Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov
+7 Tell your kid to figure it out themselves  Prospect in IB-M&A
+7 Responding to your questions in order. Preface that the degree to which there is a "typical" correlates with the size of the bank. MidasMulligan
+7 . Principal in PE - LBOs
+7 Aren't you also one of the anti-UBS posters? Y'all really love spreading anti-UBS propaganda after you got laid off, huh. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+7 Ive found the highest correlation of somebodys ability to make money is typically who they trained under who molded their process. Analyst 3+ in HF - EquityHedge
+7 My point is just the way you’re going to resolve those debates consistently is probably just some form of data someone else can see. Even if they can’t, the way you trade will reveal a lot about what you think. Works at Citadel Investment Group
+7 Contrary to popular belief, schools with a large population gunning for finance and not enough prestige / OCR to compensate (Stern, Georgetown, Michigan, UVA) have poor outcomes for the average student. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+7 it means "we dont do any work and just ride beta but will take the moral high ground about it" Research Analyst in HF - Other
+7 Salty_VibezI love your story, and would love to achieve something similar one day. Any advice for a recently hired BB analyst who studied finance? TechBanking
+7 SBOTZwhat about sellside? Like 2.0 CRE
+7 I cofounded a company that did scattered site senior housing and we did a HUD refi under the scattered site program several years after starting. odog @digitalimmortality.com