+1 It sounds like your analyst is comprised of people who are socially awkward, possibly jerks, and insecure.  Associate 3 in CorpDev
+1 “I was thinking about accepting my MBB offer, choosing the furthest out start date and using that as insurance so if I can’t find a RE job I can go work in consulting.” IsItREPE
+1 Don’t be a loser… bet on yourself. Worse case scenario you don’t get an offer and you can easily pivot to commercial banking for FT . quietlover13
+1 newlymintedboothThe state is borrowing your car, making you pay for repairs, and not letting you use it. Only strangers get to drive it. IsItREPE
+1 Yeah. I think it helped that I studied finance and a lot of those firms are completely swamped with projects so they need to hire and develop people.  PE_prep
+1 I am starting only in October, but if I remember I will report back. PE_prep
+1 i didnt see a 2026/2027 one. Does anyone have insights on the interview?  Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Are you trying to be an Andrew Tate stereotype or something Works at Jefferies & Company
+1 This happened to me in 2023 and I know many other people it happened to since. Interestingly, a few I know managed to level up (MM to BB, MM to EB). I took a role that was a bit of a downgrade but now in a perfect job. Associate 1 in PE - Other
+1 TD CoverageAN2$90k (Middle Bucket) + $40k promotion Heard top was 100 or 105 Pho3nix5451
+1 Thats not IB though  ChimpChimpchimpChimpChimp
+1 like not really, there is no "flagging" -- for the most part ib applications are not pulled by ai or hr, they are pulled by referals. simplifiedclap
+1 Yeah, people should avoid B School. Better to just lateral.  Fanofoutcomes
+1 If in both scenarios you assume you’re a good performer, BB 100%. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 The only thing you can do is do the best you can. Once you’ve tried your best preparing for recruiting, weighing up your options and committing, there is nothing more you can do. alexcokke
+1 Following dckogdyioo
+1 Are these question hypothetical or do you have something at hand? It’s just a mental exercise otherwise - do you have an offer for a MFPE analyst role? There’s not many of those  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 I know PGIM does sophomore summer internships. They’re usually tied to a scholarship as well. linkedinbot
+1 have a few, feel free to dm vcp146
+1 This happened to me last summer at a large MM IB (Jeff, Gugg, HL, etc.) and to be totally candid with you it was a blood bath recruiting FT without a return. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Yes, applications continuously creep earlier and earlier every year, though I bet it'd slow down eventually. Better start grinding those technicals!  Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Why don’t you find me structured junior SA programs for PCCP, Fortress, Cerberus, Oaktree, TPG (for debt) 🤣 Ask Claude again to help you again bro for your “honest read” or ask your uncle who’s an LP at these firms so you [email protected]
+1 Anonymous Monkey: Touch grass A7858
+1 Was told by multiple people at BofA that NET holds the pen on transactions even in NY Spitfire1925
+1 Analyst 1 in IB - Cov Principal in CorpStrat
+1 This is hilarious ragebait and I think you’re just joking but your “current state” says rising junior? Your goal is to have a RE credit SA before you graduate? What else could you be looking for? [email protected]
+1 To pivot effectively from a Financial Analyst program within the CFO function of a BB to a more stimulating and commercial role, here’s a structured approach based on the most helpful WSO content: WSO Monkey Bot
+1 Based on the most helpful WSO content, here’s what you need to know to prepare for your R1 Analyst interview with Guggenheim's Private Capital Advisory group: WSO Monkey Bot
+1 You've told me to kill myself twice. You've called me retarded multiple times. You've said you'll stomp on me and spit on me. And you work at a hedge fund. Intern in ER
+1 Are you sure you want to thank the people that thought you weren’t good enough to do the job? If yes, would just send an email to the people you worked with the most, not the whole team. Intern in IB - Gen
+1 In consumer PE and would agree with this assessment moreso than light23's assessment (but appreciate reading his perspective). Curious to hear more people's thoughts, especially if they've touched consumer PE/IB Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 As someone who chose GSB over HBS, this is a good recap.  SaaSChimp
+1 Yeah bro knows ball 🏀  NahFAM69
+1 Those are pretty different things.  SaaSChimp
+1 You just got one offer. Chill. Take some time to enjoy it. Otherwise you are gonna miss the good things in life. Intern in ER
+1 Makes sense and congrats on the success! Have peers tried to leave the industry to go into operating, consulting or other roles distant from secondaries and how they fared?  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 I’m a woman at a transaction leader level in private equity with 2 kids and an amazing husband - if you are good at the work, are happy doing the heavy hours/travel and your spouse is on board with that then it’s great! Principal in PE - LBOs
+1 No, some banks do ask for transcripts when you submit your app though and I want to say it was Centerview and PJT, but genuinely most do not simplifiedclap
+1 Hell of an ego for a Tulaner at UBS. Just the type of out of touch MBA associate who ultimately ends up at UBS Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Congrats on JEF bro, hope that volleyball game was fun Incoming Analyst in IB-M&A
+1 100% in M&A Analyst 3+ in IB-M&A
+1 I have a buddy who makes $650k cash as a VP1 in strategic finance. It is a portfolio of a top MF. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Yo this comment has me geeking at 2 am I can’t lie thank u for this Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 As someone in a similar position, it is what it is and you need to keep grinding. FinanceWannabe65
+1 A quick linkedin search will show you that all big MMs employ a large number of ex LO guys as analysts, PMs or even senior PMs. j@tokyo
+1 dude you're also at a non-target holy shit chickennugget801
+1 You keep saying 'answer my questions' but you never asked me anything. You just insulted me and told me to kill myself. That's not a debate that's a breakdown. I'm done. For real this time. Enjoy the void. Intern in ER
+1 The teams that run the recruitment of each divisions SAs are different. Meaning that they can have different timelines. nutmegger189
+1 I’m about 5 years removed from when I was an SA, and back then return offer rates were about 90%, and the other 10% found a role very quickly or were actively trying to find one during the internship. Analyst0910
+1 It's just a networking event / insight. It does not yield any recruiting advantage or fast-track beyond meeting some staff. It is selective though, as is networking events at all the EB's. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 If u love Goldman so much why don’t you marry it A7858
+1 Being in 55 doesn’t guarantee you a quant job. The people who I know that went into quant are very much smarter than the average 55 student. Assistant in Legal
+1 LMAO no they just arent dude.... Factor
+1 Houston recruiting starts very early, and I didn’t want to renege on the offer. Plus, as I mentioned, bankers I spoke with convinced me that the energy group would give me stronger modeling skills and help me stand out. EJGJJ
+1 Ngl that would explain some things PrivateTechquity 🚀🚀🚀
+1 How is it a sweatshop its in Philly Gold-ManSacks
+1 Not competitive OilGasShale
+1 Bump Intern in IB-M&A
+1 Do people ever go from secondaries buyside to PCA? World_of_Wall_Street
+1 Bump World_of_Wall_Street
+1 Not true. Your competition isn’t blue haired SJW warriors, it’s people like on this forum.  darkhorse69
+1 do you know if BBs have begun? cricket_fan
+1 Agree, I don't hate energy, but just don't think I can stay in Houston, given that I don't have family here EJGJJ
+1 ferragamo drivers hands down. Only shoe I ever wear. srs. deelcheef
+1 Texas bankers are nicer and more normal than NY bankers for sure Associate 1 in PE - Other
+1 whats a similar but different industry to real estate that is thriving?  monkeyre2896
+1 I'm a bit confused what you mean- are you saying that I can assume I get all A's my second semester of sophomore yr and put a 3.7 on my resume? aspiringfinancebro470
+1 Gotta keep the bar low and get the smart people out so you proud Texans can shine!  Associate 3 in IB - CB
+1 "Good luck with it, and worth checking back on it in a day or two, even a flat reply worth responding to yourself, still with nothing to sell, is where the actual value in doing this comes from." Determined
+1 Just do a cumulative gpa lmao Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 For firms with no analyst program (and referencing college interns), pretty low. I feel like these internships are often favors to friends of the firm, moreso than a real full-time pipeline.  SaaSChimp
+1 Disadvantaged - your experience to reference is just lighter, prep window is more limited, and weaker ability to convince a hesitant hiring firm that you know what you’re getting into.  SaaSChimp
+1 unpopular opinion but if you are truly bottom bucket $0 bonus isn't crazy Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+1 yes the work u do there/ will do there is more impressive and they will ask u questions, anything to do with modeling, finanical data, research, is good simplifiedclap
+1 Bocconi for London would make some sense, but there's plenty of better programs. You'd be the odd one out with an NYC SA. For the US it doesn't make sense to do bocconi msc honestly.  Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+1 What schools are reaching out?? There’s no magical time where all the students gunning for IB get together and decide to start networking. Are YOU ready to start networking? If so then start lol Just_Wanna_Mog
+1 few datapoints across the street suggesting a decent year. ~35-40 for mid buckets across a few banks Prospect in IB - Cov
+1 Success is relative, in your case it's relatives!  Boom Pun Roasted!   Principal in CorpStrat
+1 Lol I guess that’s expected? 5% increase YoY Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov
+1 have a few examples, feel free to pm vcp151
+1 What about stifel zaddyladdy
+1 First time I’ve ever seen anyone phrase “everyone and their mother” like this, but I guess yeah you’re southern Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+1 Wait to follow up - give it a few days and fix it when you follow up. Wouldn’t explicitly address it. TBH dude they’re getting 100s of emails a week - they’re going to forget. Prospect in IB - 5th Year
+1 I haven't worked with them a ton, but understand they might have more of an infra/RE lean. Associate 1 in Private Credit
+1 Do you understand all the time you would put into one of these jobs you could be likely making 100-500k per month if you locked in. Analyst 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Seeing a lot of these posts and understanding where you guys are coming from. I was in a very similar situation 3 years ago when not receiving a return offer even though I put in everything. ClaudeColumbus
+1 lol. Get a table / bottle service at a popular nightclub  Fanofoutcomes
+1 Anonymous Monkey: Moelis AN2 top is ~100 it seems This is significantly lower than top Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 piper FIG is paradise  figenjoyer
+1 . Intern in IB-M&A
+1 Are there any online examples of what a strategic finance output or example approaches to tasks looks like? Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Apollo lol wuandale33
+1 Honestly not anymore. Tons of roles only paying 220k-260k even at the senior associate level which is honestly shocking. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 You should consider the interview an opportunity to prove you can do the job and are ready to hit the ground running on day 1. MMPM
+1 “Spearheaded” diligence is just far overdoing it. No intern, or FT analyst in most cases would typically be leading DD. Intern in PE - LBOs
+1 fr?? ifhoqbfkjqewrhgiojvbwerjkg
+1 Do not try and impress them. It won’t work. Just be friendly and kind and try and find some way to make them like you as a parson. Prospect in IB - 5th Year
+1 Agree with all this. Not sure what the future for markets (or life) holds. Would’ve been nice to be a junior in the 90s through 2020 and feel like you could build a career without the world in such flux. asdf1248
+1 UBS is not paying 110% lol Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 The distinction between newly created project IP and a vendor’s pre-existing code/components is a good one. Hazel_Parkery