+1 Teams hire on an as-needed basis, I believe. Last year they said no S& FT recruitment but I know multiple in my college who got offers. They just opened up a little bit later and more randomly. Intern in Consulting
+1 How much money do you make Principal in Private Credit
+1 Which Vertical? Worked with one of their teams on a buyside mandate and they were insanely annoying Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+1 Thank you dems for importation of wonderful healthy productive people who need no medical care and do not put Americans in harms way. Ozymandia
+1 Sorry I don't mean to hijack post but I i did 2 years IB then now FP&A at a top startup and my all in is ~$340k but hours are 9am-10pm (somehow sweaty af for fp&a lol). Would this be extremely foolish to leave? Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Debt Advisory - Marlborough Partners, Tomorrow Partners, Tatsu Partners,  Axis Arbor. All the mid-market banks - i.e. William Blair, HL etc wso104
+1 idk but when i hear of someone who's in their 2nd yr of a MM grad program saying they want to do something "equity mkts related" they clearly just don't want to do research lol but maybe that's just me. Works at JPMorgan
+1 I'll bite unders
+1 Very interested to see if anyone can spill the news on his departure. Kathleen made sense as she was an IR professional, Nadeem seemed like he came up the ranks and was positioned for a long stint. patsfan947
+1 It just depends on what you want out of life right now. crazylifechoices
+1 Tbh the people there aren’t even that smart anymore. Ed0 and tons of 20-50th percentile prep school kids that couldn’t get into an Ivy ed1 tifathbd
+1 Miami is unironically more prestigious than a stinky iu degree tifathbd
+1 This. OP, I joined a company for 2 weeks before leaving it for my current consulting role. I keep it off my resume and I don't list it down unless I plan to apply to that company again (which I do not plan to). Business School in CorpStrat
+1 A lot of things are like this. Look at F1 or tennis, for example, where you used to have colorful characters - for better or for worse. Now, everyone is the same drab personality. readthe10k
+1 was your PM a big fan of leopold? akxoisjwn
+1 rainyforest_any news for women in asset management academy London? Just got rejected like 10 min ago  Intern in IB-M&A
+1 Associate 1 in S&T - FI hardsharter
+1 Boomer because I want people le to have fun and not be lame? I’ll take it. Barney_Stinson
+1 Maybe make it clearer why it is worth this person’s time to invest 10-15 minutes in a call with you. Everyone’s time is limited. Especially as a person gets more senior, their time becomes even more limited. Hags28
+1 Based on the most helpful WSO content, here’s a breakdown of FICC (Fixed Income, Currencies, and Commodities) trading products and how they align with your priorities: WSO Monkey Bot
+1 Sleep. Substack_Guy
+1 This is the real answer. Analyst 3+ in HF - EquityHedge
+1 Yes, just dropped dawgdawgthedog
+1 9am to 9pm in corp dev sounds insane. Thought these jobs were more relaxing than IB / PE Works at Barclays
+1 Oxbridge brand trumps all, I think something to consider that hasn't been mentioned here is time spent on course can sometimes make or break an application cycle. momonke
+1 It might be different at the MBA level, but I observe the exact opposite pattern in satisfaction among the undergrad hires I know.  Analyst 1 in Consulting
+1 Thoughts on applying to RX and M&A? Is that a bad look? Intern in IB - Restr
+1 So many lies in the first 2 paragraphs, it's not worth responding. MMPM
+1 Bump tg-sphinxpro
+1 if you're sending 1K cold emails a week, that totally overkill and will probably hurt your chances. I personally spent like 5 min per email and sent out ~10 a day. Intern in IB-M&A
+1 lol you can’t be serious… a hairpiece??? KKRKing
+1 Definitely not starting at analyst ever without publics investing experience. Intern in HF - EquityHedge
+1 See what I put below. Essentially associates at C = analyst at M/P.  Analyst 2 in HF - EquityHedge
+1 Definitely understand what you're saying. I guess the way I see it, though, is that IB is pretty boring and administrative, too, but way more stressful. DubU20
+1 Eh, I think satisfaction with work is similar. postal-leases-4u
+1 Irrelevant player in datacenters and AI-related financings. The firm is more risk-averse and can't write the checks these deals require, while APO / BX run circles around them. Unholy
+1 have u ever seen an asian bag a non-asian hotti. no. they're good workers, low cost SME back-office or vendors , but they're just irrelevant otherwise. ignore zuriwasser
+1 You need to find a core group of people you click with rather quick. Focus on building relationships with them, rather than hoping around engagements first. hansdieter1
+1 Negative alpha in the US over the last 5, 10 and 15 years for LPs. Billions in carry dollars for the GP. One problem - the hurdle rate in private funds.  neil88
+1 You can bet that the European "PE" returns contain US/international exposure (most European funds invest abroad, CVC being a prime example), and hence they match it to the wrong index to flatter themselves. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+1 Yes my point was even your upper limit only just gets there (or just not but whatever that’s splitting hairs) Senior VP makes more sense but those are often not 30 yo’s. Think more 32-33 yo VP in PE - LBOs
+1 99%+ of LinkedIn is AI slop. Why even scroll it?  IsItREPE
+1 If they can’t be bothered to put the deal together, I wouldn’t be bothered to review it. Who knows what assumptions the slop machine made up.  IsItREPE
+1 U can be personal and concise dualism
+1 Presumably you have a phone and headphones. Podcasts, audio books, articles from intelligent sources, set your fantasy team, browse websites that are only 33% AI Slop, etc.  IsItREPE
+1 It’s called performance punishment. When you’re more competent and faster than everyone else on the team people naturally want to assign their work to you because they know it will get done fast with no problems. Associate 3 in IB - CB
+1 same got it for trading lekdodo
+1 Guess we’re cooked for the summer cause the hvs  are basically the same lol Intern in IB-M&A
+1 Opt for quality over volume. It doesn’t have to be a “connection” per se, but find people from your same hometown, school, major / minor (if it’s something non-generic like finance), clubs, sports, Greek life, etc. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 decisions being finalized, hear back today/tmr maybe FIGchimp
+1 RE secondaries are trading at 70 cents on the dollar, while secondaries for buyouts and private credit are around 90-92 cents on the dollar. carriedinterestfan
+1 wuandale33"Just shave it bro" is the worst advice ever IsItREPE
+1 bump immo203
+1 Pretty sure I know what group this is, Houston IB is famously an extremely grindy culture and one of the larger companies there is both very acquisitive doing big deals + the corp dev team prides itself on working a ton. Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+1 GS MS obviously still relevant JPM far less distinguished vs US Europe position (IMO). Probably same tier as BofA and maybe Deutsche, which is more relevant for SEA/SG Prospect in PE - LBOs
+1 Thank you for the detailed answer! I was curious about your "capped at some firms" point for VCs and was hoping you could clarify. I guess what I'm trying to distinguish is that is it a hard ceiling (i.e. tophat
+1 Chicago alloutblaze15
+1 I mean what do you want to do next. 9-9s most days + occasional all nighters is insane for corp dev. Sure you're comped decently well, but is this what you want to do for the rest of your career?  NuclearPenguins
+1 Just to respond to the commenters of my comment. It is very unusual for a lady to be gunned down in a terrorist attack in the middle of midtown Manhattan while she is in her 40s. Young kids at home. Hags28
+1 The last thing I would want to do after spending all week working is to hang out with more finance bros  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+1 Bump/update: made it to the second round, people seem great. Can't get a great read on WLB. Analyst 2 in Consulting
+1 This is stupid. People make jokes. Get over it. Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+1 I just got the super day for Chicago as well best of luck! CreditBanker
+1 ah ok are offers out yet? will they be calling? Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 Shana Tova Umetuka! Wishing you and everyone on WSO a sweet and prosperous new year. May your deals close smoothly, your trades hit the mark, and your career soar to new heights. WSO Monkey Bot
+1 Are you presenting options you actually have available to you? If so, Option 1 is a no brainer unless you're incredibly ambitious in the business world and have no other interests outside of work. readthe10k
+1 Yea option 1 sounds good That said if my family was horrible option 2/3 also seem like good options 🤣 Hags28
+1 Anonymous Monkey: postal-leases-4u postal-leases-4u
+1 Send her my way OP, I'll take good care of her. Very good troll post btw will SB on recharge readthe10k
+1 Dump her. She deserves better. StardustCrusader
+1 In my very humble opinion. Focus on what trading actually is. What are the dynamics of the desk (flow, risk tolerance, desk structure, etc.)? Start trading energy/commodities - you definitely can. ratemyswap
+1 ^ This. I know a couple guys from UChicago who struck out during IB recruiting. They ended up at hedge funds curiousgeorge576
+1 Anonymous Monkey: Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Anonymous Monkey: Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Hope none of them dumb enough to accept lol they will regurt  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 A committee process doesn’t automatically make the outcome objective or transparent. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 HR vetting doesn’t necessarily prove the underlying decision was objective. HR is reviewing what the group documents, and that documentation is still created, selected, and framed by the same people making the decision. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Edit Associate 1 in PE - Other
+1 I’m not arguing with you about your group or saying every non-return was unfair. I’m simply pointing out that people reading this thread shouldn’t assume the process is perfectly objective or uniform across the firm. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Anonymous Monkey: Edit Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 I know enough about UBS Tech and RBC FIG to know neither are paradise. Barclays tech probably the same  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 They deleted the link to Reuters article. GS settled a lawsuit with a former VP who was fired to facilitate promotion of a woman. GS failed to prove in court that she was any better. VP in IB - Cov
+1 Second the pivot being doable. One angle that gets underused: internal mobility. Since you are already at a BB, check if your firm posts IBD roles internally before they go external. LedgerShelf
+1 Something to think about in the future would be to consider what type of buyside exit you want. Macro hedge fund? Rates, FX, macro credit, commodities, would be best. zeroknowledge
+1 University brand matters a lot in HK as you're competing globally.  agudeza
+1 Not really the case with Farallon tough. Steyer really did step down and not kept all the economics to himself evergrande
+1 Do it as an analyst, ideally before promotion. The associate lateral bar is higher because you are expected to manage immediately, not just model well. Anonymous Monkey.
+1 would rather run straight into a brick wall tbh justachillguy
+1 It's pretty obvious there is a bias regarding the 49% of applicants who didn't get an offer. I am sure in reality the number is much higher.  Intern in IB - Cov
+1 Congrats on Deloitte! psychicspies
+1 Shabbat shalom Schlampfe
+1 I should've expected this. Maybe I really deserve Deloitte.  chickennugget801
+1 Apply early in R1 for the next cycle.. ucl msc finance is non target.  Only focus on lse, lbs, oxbridge, imperial. Or try some top European ones like hec escp bocconi mannheim etc.  Analyst 1 in AM - Equities
+1 Surprised that one even came back lmao Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 The majority in Canada is prob Indian lol Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 ... loser1234
+1 This is simply not ture. They also implement womens quotas... while applications are mostly men. loser1234
+1 I am track 3.  emacias1424
+1 Because this is a banking/PE forum of a mainly students who don't know anything  jl12
+1 Also from the NYC area and was around the same age. The only childhood day I vividly remember, to the smallest details.   NewIndustryHorizon