+4 You mean ‘real estate investment bank’? creC11
+4 I hear you man. I grew up in a relatively poor family in Asia - we never went on a vacation or dinners, and I never saw my parents spend any money on themselves. Investment Analyst in PE - LBOs
+4 the 46th us president had a stutter, youll be fine stay confident  Associate 2 in IB-M&A
+4 "All of them, put me in coach" Associate 3 in IB - Cov
+4 I don't think there's a universal right answer because it depends on the type of fund you're targeting. From what I've seen, many MM platforms still value people who know a sector inside and out. DavidBakerr
+4 I definitely do not have any sort of similar background or experience to this, but I imagine your 10 years of RE experience isn't going to disappear in the eyes of future firms if you take another job. jarstar1
+4 It's either the best group or one of the worst groups depending on who you are and your personality. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+4  +1 on Oxbridge/LSE as being your top targets. They'd give you the best chance of breaking into IB out of undergrad.  Prospect in IB - Restr
+4 In before the closest communist CRE posts his smooth-brained response defending why wealth taxes are awesome and why all the seized money should be donated to LGBTQ / DEI minorities  billy_boy79
+4 2 more posts and im calling netflix Intern in IB-M&A
+4 When you say "not close to RX at all", how far away are we talking about? Context matters. Associate 1 in Consulting
+4 Just do anything. Start-up, accounting, strategy, research at your school, etc. Just do something to gain experience in the world. Maybe even real estate, commercial real estate. Prospect in IB-M&A
+4 While the WSO forum widely segments the MM firms as “MM” they are in fact boutiques. Economics on the boutique models pay better. EB = mid-good deal flow + high fees per deal + few people = high pay Monaco Man
+4 Does the crime have to be in the U.S.? Asking for a friend I’m internationalfrom South Sudan Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+4 Would add leads are almost always getting board observer seats on CVs… some are starting to take active board seats and bringing in industry advisors. Generic Banker
+4 Cornell kids don't take elite hedge fund offers? What do they prefer? Ithaca Credit Union? I'm having trouble connecting the dots thereisnochoice
+4 Tax flight is a well-defunct myth used to scare people. It does not matter if Zuckerburg leaves a state or a country. You can still tax every asset he owns in the state or the country. IsItREPE
+4 From a couple years ago, all ASO 1:- Carlyle Credit Opps - 125 + 125- Permira Credit - 110 + 70-90 - Sona - 150 + 150 I don’t work at any of these places but was what I gathered from HH Works at PJT Partners
+4 You took a different path than most military. There are a lot of programs in place for direct transition without MBA but the problem you’ll face is they’re more oriented toward folks with no biz experience. Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+4 Things I have seen people do in investment banking to help manage sleep: Hags28
+4 Look at "economyisland" comment history - 5 comments all defending Onex VP in PE - LBOs
+4 They pay phenomenally. My understanding is their associates can clear over $400k.  Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+4 unless you’re above average (HTN+) female and willing to jestermax, you are not signing CB incrementalalpha
+4 I know the feeling all to well and it probably feels like a gut punch right now. I would keep your head up high and keep moving forward. Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+4 Definitely not. Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+4 From what I heard, be able to do everything and all responsibilities of the job absolutely without AI, and know how to think critically, etc. -.-.-.-.-
+4 go to northwestern - its the best school on ur list Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+4 I transferred into uva as an Econ major and didn’t even get interviews at any of the clubs. Yet I ended up at bofa/barc and was super happy how things turned out. Intern in IB - Gen
+4 Your numbers sound very high, especially with no experience, but if that's what you're getting offered, I need to do a better job of negotiating. landacqclt
+4 if your MD notices it without you telling them then theyre the ones who are gay Analyst 1 in AM - FI
+4 Super interesting, thanks for the insights and makes sense. Associate 1 in PE - Other
+4 Harvard and Oxford is the correct pairing because it’s the only combination that spans both poles of Anglo-American power at the highest altitude. VP in PE - LBOs
+4 Many years ago, I had to make a similar decision and picked East. Mistake for three reasons. Managing Director in IB-M&A
+4 a becky that is Asian Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+4 Not sure I understand the relevance of the consulting experience paragraph. Consultants are not a shining example of people that actually implement anything. Determined
+4 if you have a bunch of capacity-constrained financial service businesses, how do you create value by acquiring them? iMamba
+4 IB is 100% a sales role once you're a VP and above. That's all IB really is. The value-add that IB provides in M&A and capital markets is giving back time to the people paying you for your services. Senior VP in CorpDev
+4 Stern is a top-tier target for high finance and easily beats USC or Georgetown for NYC placement. If you’re in the top 30% of your class, you'll get interviews at every BB and EB. elsizinie939
+4 Banking to pharma corp dev is a solid move if you're in a healthcare coverage group. pharmacoach
+4 Citi for sure. Though if it were vs UBS or DB I’d take JEFF youngbuffet
+4 Holy wailing wall of text, dude. Not reading all that, but sorry that happened Corp_titan
+4 JEFFERIES THE CEO IS HARDO AND FRAT AND BANK IS BASICALLY EB. Intern in IB - Gen
+4 bofa. vp3. top bucket. $340 bonus.  VP in IB - Cov
+4 I'm at a similar boutique with a very similar model.  Mastery 7 IB Shitter
+4 I look at things in terms of what I achieve in a given week as opposed to what I achieve each day. Associate 2 in IB-M&A
+4 no I just like shitcos Prospect in IB - Gen
+4 It’s wild how much earlier the timelines have been pushed up, but at least for WF, I’m honestly not surprised they put CRE on the IB timeline. Analyst 1 in RE - Comm
+4 Interviewers are asking themselves two things when they interview you:  Deo et Patriae
+4 However, on the time value of money aspect, isn't that an argument for taxable income/salary over carry? odog @digitalimmortality.com
+4 Sorry you didn’t get your return offer intern Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+4 Ubs blows, and it gets worse every year since 2023 Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+4 If I am being honest you would be catching a falling knife KageSelly
+4 Smart ones left. Laggards and internationals like to stay PitchKing
+4 IR case studies tend to vary pretty broadly firm by firm and have seen everything from a short, submitted writing sample to a full-blown 3-hour exam, starting from analyzing a full PPM, pulling together slides and making a IRR-Responsible IR
+4 How long after SPD until you receive an offer? How long until it explodes? renegade1
+4 Close your eyes and Imagine a worse case scenario. Ok now imagine it’s worse, way worse in almost every aspect Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+4 I'll give you a simple answer. USC is only good if you want to chill and enjoy life and coast in college. Placement into good places will be tough even on west coast. Prospect in IB - Gen
+4 A lot of internal reporting - essentially taking information from various management data and repackaging it for LPs / internal valuation purposes. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+4 Congrats on UBS Tech! I am unsure their associates do anything, so seems like a great place to coast until you get fired. Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+4 Answering these from a PE lens: PrivateTechquity 🚀🚀🚀
+4 I think you’re right, but at a very small scale. Speaking for the Canadian market, there are lots of folks who retire from formal trading and offer market making to micro cap issuers. acardboardmonkey
+4 I think you’re right, but at a very small scale. Speaking for the Canadian market, there are lots of folks who retire from formal trading and offer market making to micro cap issuers. acardboardmonkey
+4 It’s worth the right to sell it for more than what you bought it for. liquidiot
+4 If goal is to maximize near term pay - just go to an Evercore / Moelis.  Teller in IB - Cov
+4 I can assure you 50th percentile placement at MSB is not ib LOL. Prob more like middle office or human capital. Especially if you cut out the (many) nepo-placements. Prospect in IB - Gen
+4 Ignore title, incoming SA 27 here.  BBs: JPM sponsors. GS probably does. Not too sure about MS and BofA. UBS stopped. Barclays and DB also probably stopped. Prospect in IB-M&A
+4 Not sure at all... tima28
+4 Ok helpful. Without having lived this, my off the cuff reaction is negative. SaaSChimp
+4 IB12344321: Any insight on TMT? Analyst 1 in PE - LBOs
+4 I’d do it and never look back. The best type of gig. It’ll be laughable how easy the day to day is vs banking, this is coming from someone who went from wealth management to banking (thinking of going back now ). Research Analyst in IB - CB
+4 Let’s also be honest about the fact that the job market is pretty terrible right now. There has been a tangible shift from an employees market to an employer’s market. NNJCRE
+4 I’d lean MBB if the end goal is entrepreneurship broadly defined, especially if you’re still figuring out what kind of company you might want to build or join. Ex-consultant in Tech
+4 One thing that might be a mitigant to this is the current legal responsibility on these new AI developed software. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+4 Just wish my entire background wasn't CRE finance (bachelors degree included) because I would have been out two years ago. This is legit all I practically know.  Associate 2 in RE - Comm
+4 You shouldn't be trying to solve backwards from an outlier scenario. You should focus on what areas you might have an edge or want to develop a deep expertise in. Determined
+4 It's very good at solving, or at least telling you how to do certain tech things that you would basically never find let alone figure out on your own.  cragfar
+4 Hiring quality at JPM has clearly deteriorated. Analyst 1 in IB - Restr
+4 To rephrase your first question as "are all IB roles better than every PV role?", I wouldnt go that far but I would still give the edge to bankers.  tsunami0
+4 You're gonna have one heck of a day when you start learning about caste discrimination in tech hiring Angus Macgyver
+4 Honestly, it’s a hustle and if you’re networking and studying hard enough, it becomes a numbers game. Study the group, what they’re known for and do your research. VP in PE - LBOs
+4 Any GS CHI group will work you until you cannot physically work anymore. If you want double monitor outlines burned into your eyes go work there. Trust me I know from experience. Red40Monkeyy
+4 Just by saying "Big 4 Asian", you probably qualify as disabled. Try applying that way. MillánAstray
+4 Market could be completely different in 1-2 years when you’re looking to start, so don’t be disheartened. CoffeeBong
+4 try out ​​mа​r​gi​​n​o​​fаl​p​ha and don't look back, it is the way for technicals bro Prospect in IB - Gen
+4 UBS is a leading wealth management that has an IB function for the purposes of cross-sell. I am shocked a bunch of supposed bankers are not able to figure this out. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+4 I have been in Corp Dev for about eight years across four different companies (no IB background). Bunnies
+4 Shitposters, keep it going they are stating to talk these at staff meetings Associate 3 in IB - Gen
+4 Ragebait thereisnochoice
+4 Boomer take lol. I understand why you say this as a PM who needs to shell out the fee, but HHs are not negative value. Benson Says
+4 k1 is a joke of a firm that pays well below market and has horrible culture. would avoid Investment Analyst in PE - LBOs
+4 Banking is a miserable mind numbingly boring job at the junior levels and absolutely dominates and destroys your life for ~10 years before you get even some basic semblance of control. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+4 I would make sure it’s something you enjoy and would be good at. This is 150% a sales and client service career. I’m sure you know what this entails based on your dad being in the field for 25 years. Principal in PE - LBOs
+4 Congrats on UBS M&A Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+4 Congrats on female coworker! Intern in IB - Gen
+4 Ignore title. You guys need to start using claude code or codex. Associate 1 in Consulting
+4 i think it’s great. good for her Bank Slut
+4 Harsh truth, but I actually think this is a bigger issue than your path thus far. SaaSChimp
+4 This thread is geeked I love it paulrabil33
+4 Ignore title, VP in VC. Associate 1 in PE - Other
+4 I had to wade through a cesspool of comments to find something remotely rational. Keep fighting the good fight sir. Your last couple of sentences sum it up well. It's only going to get more extreme.  Rabbit