+2 Do not do this futureanalyst4353
+2 Touch grass kid. Your career literally hasn’t even started yet. devildog2067
+2 I would say #2, which is basically restructuring advisory work at its core and involves corporate finance principles - both of which will develop a strong skillset for a BB Restructuring/Lev Fin group placement. johnny_quest007
+2 There is no way boots on the ground will happen. That would be the most unpopular decision this administration could ever make.  starwars1234
+2 Overworking yourself with interview prep might not b3 the way to go neither  Associate 3 in IB - Gen
+2 There is no chance a draft happens in this day and age. starwars1234
+2 Totally understand your concern. RevBuildRascal
+2 I loved the in-depth OT examples Intern in IB - Gen
+2 Managing Director in HF - OtherCompletely disagree. As a vista LP… Mephistopheles
+2 Yeah but while the first job work is all gopher shit you need people in those seats to learn and develop. AI can handle the work but AI ain’t the future of the company/industry. credev99
+2 Yeah. I actually think the degree to which a firm leans into and embraces AI in the next few years will have a real impact on the landscape and will become a real selling point, even if they don’t explicitly market it. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Harvard UG, Oxford MA monkeyvjit
+2 Analyst 1 in HF - RelVal econometricks
+2 Insanely competitive. Less and less seats as the days go by. Lot of non-banking entities entered the market and making traditional market-makers useless. FoxMulder
+2 The typical red flags: blow ups, jr/sr turnover, withdrawals / difficulty fundraising, biz model transition (e.g. distressed -> CLO), lack of transparency when recruiting DBLBonds
+2 Been using the excel plugin, lost for words. AI usage will become a key KPI for promotion / not getting laid off.   Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 That’s not really fair. Every list can be gamed and every ranking list generally asks for payment to be included / promoted (like, every single one because the platform pushes distribution). Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 What's going on at MS? Why not closer to JPM / GS? Bout2FUTW
+2 They are in rebuilding mode after losing 3 MDs and one director from New York in a year. Global head was in Houston. Not sure what’s going to happen with newly hired MD and VP. Associate 1 in PE - Other
+2 AI isn't displacing many jobs in general, let alone in real estate. Ozymandia
+2 Point72 Academy summer 2025 class size was 55 Prospect in S&T - FI
+2 US team is different than Europe^. Europe issues have been exacerbated by the fact that their returns are poor — big issues with some NPL investments a few years ago among other things. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+2 If it’s anything like the one I did years ago you will ace it given your background. If not then it did its job bc if you can’t link up a three statement model then you can’t model well enough to be an analyst Investment Analyst in HF - Other
+2 Can’t speak to it personally but one of my closest friends at an EB got so much inbound from headhunters within a month of updating his LinkedIn showing that he’d started there (source; he showed me his LinkedIn inmails in LendingFanatic1
+2 The actual name doesn't really matter outside of if you want to jump right into large-scale projects (ie - to begin your own RE shop by developing 100+ unit apartment buildings, data centers, etc). jl12
+2 Congratulations on the offers! Before giving a clear opinion, it’s important to understand what kind of internship did you have at the Big 4, and what specifically did you not enjoy about it? Anonymous Monkey
+2 its a grim outlook for the career mate N/A in IB-M&A
+2 how easy is it to lateral from a bb to eb? coming in to summer at a low tier bb and want to have more rigorous experience Intern in IB - Cov
+2 Currently a BB underwriting associate. I've seen people go to IB, CB, or private credit. Personally, I might try to stick around. The WLB to comp ratio is very good. Outside of the office I train strongman. Associate 1 in IB - CB
+2 any insight on lgp, fp, gtcr, bdt, platinum? Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 any idea if the WLB / culture in credit is similar?  deas7
+2 Went to UF. From what I remember about 90% of high finance recruiting runs through the MSF program. Analyst0910
+2 I had to take a Wonderlic test when I applied for a Point72 internship 5 years ago. Soros_
+2 (rest) as a concept is so ridiculous, no one is ever taking jpm ecm over any bb/eb coverage role  Associate 2 in IB - Gen
+2 Great points, but please allow me to rebuttal. Deal Team Six
+2 Yea obviously I'm sure it can build more complex models later - I tried it and my firm use Claude. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 If half of them have cameras off or appear to be working on other stuff during your interview, they have deal flow and are busy and this is likely some BS that HR thought would be a good idea. Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+2 Projecting much… IHateHardos
+2 Sending 47 cruise missiles to kill one janitor is a true Adam shit Spreadsheet Sasquatch
+2 good luck man helpiamstuck123
+2 a lot of canadian re companies are low irr-maxxing currently it seems Analyst 1 in Acct - Tax
+2 Bumping good luck bro Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Oxcam>Lse>Imperial>Ucl>WW Gainone1572
+2 You sound like me.  I was MAcc (my undergrad was in social sciences), and I worked in Big 4 audit after school and got my CPA. odog @digitalimmortality.com
+2 This lol wsomonkey.123
+2 Your first year out of college is a difficult and sometimes depressing year of transition, with or without the grueling lifestyle of IB, so please be easy on yourself. hocuspocus123
+2 For masters, no. Waste of money Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Queen's > Waterloo imo but if you're good, you'll be fine in either Analyst 1 in PE - Other
+2 Depends a lot on the group you are going into. Haven't been here long, but have heard people a year before I was here landed at MMs with ease. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 . N/A in PE - LBOs
+2 Alright guys...looks I struck a chord here. I explored a move to a CLO with an offer and spoke to several professionals who are senior analysts/PM who echo'd some of the views I've shared. VP in PE - Other
+2 This is spot on. Perfectly embodies the type of personalities in PE too - insecure yet at the same time loves smelling their own shit Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 Man of culture. She's not yours. It's just your turn.  earthwalker7
+2 Sure. As long as LPs are still allocating to software, that’s your real peer group when fundraising (in Eterna's case it's really LMM Tech investors). Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Absolutely defer recruiting until you get to your new school, and then map out your plan such that it takes you 3 years to graduate. No one cares if you take 5 years to graduate and they won't even know. Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+2 realtalkGordonGekko87 CRE
+2 I guess it was a mischaracterization to say I dedicated my high school years towards achieving a career in finance, although it was a primary aim of mine. TacOverlord
+2 It's the same thing with having a good GPA: incredibly useful in the beginning to open doors but after a while none of that matters and your experiences/successes/reputation will define you.  CRE
+2 Longer than you'd expect, shorter than you'd like.  PrivateTechquity 🚀🚀🚀
+2 lake_michiganYou kill americans, you deserve to die.  You're right. Let's round up the ICE agents killing Americans.  WeatherController
+2 Devils AdvocateThis place has consistently bad takes on politics . financeabc
+2 Nomura Greentech by a mile Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+2 Anything on WCAS or Nordic? Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 And to play devil's advocate on myself. I miss the "ownership" feeling of PE where you had more control. Public investing is extremely passive with a goal of being right ~60% of the time. Investment Analyst in HF - EquityHedge
+2 Mayfair is equivalent to TriBeca or Soho, not 53rd street. incoming_analyst
+2 Genstar sounds like a great associate seat from friends who went through their process. MM platform with a skew towards software (although mandate is generalist). Very lean team, high AUM / IP. burningboat
+2 Berkshire is excellent indeed, has quite the prestige halo. Culture is great from a friend that works there; frequent outings, respect from seniors, etc. burningboat
+2 Associate at an EB in Houston. Going to be blunt…I don’t think we’ve ever given an interview to anyone from UTD, let alone an offer. Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+2 You're not at all socially broken. Your emotions are typical.  You put too much pressure on yourself to sound impressive, which makes coffee conversations uncomfortable. dollyartasia
+2 They want a model similar to England. A constitutional monarchy. They love the Shah as a symbol, but he's not cold hearted or as strong as his father. Meaning, he's not willing to kill his opponents. Matchabee
+2 WorstOfBothWorlds TechBanking
+2 PWP is EB purplewizard
+2 It’s not saving a week, it’s saving ~4-6 weeks, which is a massive difference. Another point is BSL  can’t do unitranche - BSL is willing to take the same amount of risk but not in one tranche. deas7
+2 i'm here to collect poo from the wells fargo shills. VP in PE - LBOs
+2 jewslayer1944I think any posh + white region will have what you're looking for AKA tall attractive rich guys, think like Dallas/Boston flakeyassfriends
+2 That expense only hits if the deal closes, which in UBS case is 1/ 500 pitches... Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Probably around 350 at stern (little more than half the class has been thrown around on this forum) vs 150-200 at UChicago… (don’t see it being any lower than 1/5 of the Econ majors not even counting other majors) Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 congrats on jpm (rest) Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 del ibd_x1v
+2 I've thought about this topic a lot actually. ResMan
+2 x shawnlyork
+2 I've thought about this and my concerns are (I) industry is small and don't want to burn bridges with my current team and (II) could make recruiting for other roles challenging (e.g., new firms calls current firm for refer Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+2 Personally, I would say you’re interested in hearing more about their background. Name dropping FT recruiting in the email feels too transactional. CuriousGeorge1024
+2 Platinum keeps being in the news for portcos going into restructuring, so doubt they are doing well. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 congrats on BMO M&M! obviously the best mining group in the world but way overglazed on this forum, best in such a niche industry is like being the best footgolf player in the world Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Yup definitely agree. Seemed rock solid at the time. burningboat
+2 As anyone in platform HF will tell you -- whatever is possible is completely depedent on your PM and your relationship with him/her. I've seen PMs at both ends of the spectrum. Investment Analyst in HF - Other
+2 Consider your "Why IB" and "Why X Bank" answers. Are they generic? Do they demonstrate some lack of understanding of what the job actually entails? Not humble? Delivered unconvincingly? understaffed
+2 Financial Analyst 2.5 Ozymandia
+2 every guy i know who copes with colognes is chopped AF jewslayer1944
+2 Definitely not. PJT and Perella pay top of street comp and receive emails for any PE exit if ur a top analyst. Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+2 I don't understand what sort of validation you're looking for.... either drop those classes or study harder and get good grades. Investment Analyst in HF - Event
+2 Think of it in skillsets - IB and/or PE will build a set of skills that is optimized for transactions and dealmaking. Addinator
+2 Used to think fragrance didn’t matter, was having an amazing date w a bombshell, then I made the worse fart this world has ever smelled. Like a cloud of decay just emanating. analyzinganalyst
+2 Analyst 3+ in HF - EquityHedgedeleted, I'm not going to bother arguing about this James' Bond
+2 You should also network with a group of women in your investment strategy - generally, they can tell you which funds are good to join vs problematic  James' Bond
+2 MS (and similar top banks founded by MS alumni like PJT) are a particular type of grind because of how elitist the culture is. Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 I think it’s very important to consider the structure of the internship too since your goal is to get in the industry. Analyst 2 in S&T - FI
+2 I'd report to HR and IT asap. Wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't the first time it's happened.  Prospect in Risk Mnmgt
+2 Never heard of salary this low…..even for an entry level associate. You may as well leave for a corporate job and try again at a real research shop in a few years. anonymous_IV