+4 If you work at a large regional bank that has an investment banking division, you'll be surprised to find their investment banking groups pay close to street with considerably less hours. Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+4 I formerly interviewed for a VP role at KPS and didn't find their modeling test as hard as some others (KKR, Apollo, Pegasus back when they were a thing). Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+4 What you have to look at is the type of employer that wants to hire lots of H1Bs....are they looking for slaves over which they have god like power, or do they really want to diversify the talent pool? UFOinsider
+4 I have spent more time in banking than 90% of the people who will be commenting on this thread. Analyst 3+ in HF - EquityHedge
+4 . nooneinparticular
+4 Stop posting these you pathetic swine.  hutcointraders
+4 Congrats on UBS Tech! Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+4 Yes, that’s more or less how the math works. I was at GS TMT/FIG, and the typical outcome is a large MM. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+4 The shitty part about trying to take a step-back job is that a lot of companies generally won't hire you because they know you'd bolt the second the economy recovers and something more your speed comes along.  IsItREPE
+4 Network as much as you can. Tossing a few ideas out there that helped when I moved from ER -> Late Stage VC.  Determined
+4 Yall need to join me in the suburbs when the time is right. No schizos on the corner threatening to cut off heads. No needles in the parks. I don’t even see dog shit on the ground, let alone human. VP in PE - LBOs
+4 Open secret at Veritas is that Ramzi is your gf at all levels including partner. The partners and thus every level below him will bend to every whim. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+4 There is a lot of nepotism in real estate.  Half my analyst class came from real estate families. odog @digitalimmortality.com
+4   Intern in PE - LBOs
+4 Title is wrong obv - I founded a holdco with an industry roll-up strategy a few yrs back. Intern in IB - Cov
+4 Just ignore for the love of christ dude UBSRising789
+4 You're in the UK so nobody cares about which subject you study. Warwick and UCL are globally two comparable unis, and none will give you an exponential edge vs the other. Incoming Analyst in IB-M&A
+4 EVR M&A nowadays is honestly more coveted than GS IBD (except maybe GS TMT). Went to a target and most folks with top BB (GS/MS) vs top EB (eg EVR, PJT, CVP) went with EB. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+4 ojapar20At the end of the day, results are results. TheFunkyMunky
+4 This might be idiosyncratic to my fund, but the way it works is I send the trades I want to make to my CIO. If he sees nothing weird, he forwards that to the traders and they execute. Investment Analyst in HF - EquityHedge
+4 It takes a lot of willpower to remain completely separate from the financier's way of life, and you might even be putting your cultural "fit" at risk by doing so.  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+4 Personally I would always go with the personal fit when the gap is this small. To be considered here, is the trajectory. You wanna exit to PE? Maybe Bofa. You want to be a career banker? Definitely Citi. afdhfg
+4 you forgot Murdoch's own daughters interning at GS? xyzdonttell
+4 If your plan is master after anyway I would say go for it, make the switch. The bachelor is still a strong target in paris/London. adrien3
+4 I'm at a BB, we do all our hiring direct. In my experience it's the same with strong MMs like Jeff. Research Analyst in ER
+4 Oh yea and since I'm on this post already, make sure you prep industry specific for SF/regionals, e.g., they might be biotech or technology groups. You WILL get asked industry questions VP in IB-M&A
+4 If your fund has a track record of promoting internally and you genuinely love the culture, your best first move is internal. DerivativesRiskEducation
+4 You might be. cragfar
+4 That west village JAP might not have gone home with me but at least now she knows the difference between PWP and JPM.  teez
+4 At least there’s a free gym at 11 Madison right? Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+4 i wish I went to stern icl rowan_gif
+4 I pitched INTC back in 2024 (bought in ~$20/shr) and my base case was $40, bull case ~$60. big_dawg
+4 Agree it's sweaty, my point as outlined in my comment is that it's not abnormally sweaty like a Veritas or Apollo. Any fund of 5bn+ is sweaty, the question really is severity and if the people are also aholes. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+4 No one outside of finance even what knows what an Evercore is RestIess
+4 I just finished my SA stint and I weirdly agree with this. Intern in PE - LBOs
+4 By the way don’t be fooled by “flexible capital” mandates. While that means you can technically do a pure equity deal there is close to no chance it will happen. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+4 It’s not funny yall, buddy here is having a mental crisis, haven’t seen a full meltdown like this on here in a while Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+4 Definitely not career suicide—especially if the firm is legitimate and you’re getting real exposure to markets. DerivativesRiskEducation
+4 Wouldn’t say London is a perfect example of how a city is being run, far from it. investmentwanker123
+4 The northeast's whole job since 2000 is picking up pennies behind california. The biggest victory for all these banks is getting picked by a stanford dropout in flip flops to 'advise' his next deal. rooseveltfan
+4 Resting heart rate at 37 is insane dude wtf. Like is that normal 😂 yopierre
+4 Yes and your wife identifies as Melania. Wake up Mr. McDonalds  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+4 You seem to have some vendetta against BofA lol. Are you the guy who got passed up to head IB. All of your observations bear the most weight for a VP about to turn into a director or a ED about to make MD. Smoke Frog
+4 Hello everyone, gonna talk about the mexican world in here, gonna start by salaries. diego5
+4 Rentech (and XTX) has no portal for QR roles (not just right now, I check regularly). There is no ego here. submartingale123
+4 ESCP > SSE >> RSM >>> Bayes SSE is vastly superior to RSM and Bayes.  Intern in Acct - Audit
+4 Cambridge MPhil is not exactly considered Tier 1 for such masters from what I have heard. Make no mistakes it is a great university, but employment outcomes are a bit below. goriecs
+4 Whats your thoughts on other. I dont know why all of their content is so cringe. Analyst 2 in IB - Restr
+4 Definitely not. Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+4 Incredible amounts of turnover, bad pay, goofball seniors who can’t win deals Associate 1 in PE - Other
+4 Have had this belief since before the war that the US was significantly underestimating Iran’s strength. The Iranians are absurdly resilient for a country without allies and presumably without money. newtown_creek_superfund
+4 did not know penn state knew ball like that Intern in IB - Gen
+4 To rephrase your first question as "are all IB roles better than every PV role?", I wouldnt go that far but I would still give the edge to bankers.  tsunami0
+4 bro shut up you make a new thread for this everyday Intern in IB-M&A
+4 Corporate Banking, Capital Markets (DCM, ECM, Syndicated Finance), Venture Capital/Growth Equity, Structured Products, and even Commercial Banking (relationship management or client facing product groups) if you can positi VP in CB
+4 It's not going back to the way it was before.  This is the new normal.  Everything is more complicated, debt is more expensive, and every deal requires some blocking and tackling. Mikey545
+4 If you pull at bars or not chickenp
+4 cannon type talk. totally real curiousgeorgee
+4 At the top firms you may find starting first year comp at 400-450 (the very large LOs, top boutiques usually ~50k lower). therealgekko
+4 Also a good point that I meant to include re: work done in-house. Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+4 I left financial services to start my own business and do the digital nomad route - no regrets. I think being a street performer is a bit of a stretch, though. Manager in CorpStrat
+4 Congrats on the acceptances! Can't go wrong with any of them. For me personally, 4 years of Cali living is hard to beat (Nor Cal / Bay Area is beautiful) - I would chose Stanford. Business School in CorpStrat
+4 You can coast in a lot of coverage groups at UBS since there is not a lot of deal flow and any mandate the firm wins only goes to the few juniors that are favored. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+4 Dark red confirmed ✅ Analyst 1 in IB - ECM
+4 This is all makes sense. AnonymousPEassociate3
+4 If it was freshman year you can bounce back, but you need to crush afterwards and not use AI. Smarten up, you’re at HYPSM. Don’t waste it. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+4 He voted 91% with Republicans, and only voted against Republicans on the Epstein files, aid to Israel, the war in Iran, and the big beautiful bill.  usernameladiesman217
+4 Umm sorry that doesn't make sense. So if he bought a sewing machine and made a sweater and sold it for $50.. then by that logic he didn't learn the skills and didn't do it because he didn't sew it by hand?  kuf135
+4 I have no clue why people here are so negative on real estate  The next ten years will offer truly generational wealth opportunities in the business Rick Kane
+4 I have been in Corp Dev for about eight years across four different companies (no IB background). Bunnies
+4 The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.  And once they start cutting dividends it can be a death spiral. asmith_1
+4 I'd say that it's heavily firm dependent, and you kind of get a sense of that number once you start the internship. For my firm though, the numbers are similar to what you're citing...  chimpeus
+4 Banking and finance is US-centered. Unfair [angry emoji] [sad emoji] Prospect in IB - Cov
+4 VC is skill-based, but not in the clean “best analyst wins” way people want it to be. The annoying truth is that access is part of the skill. Ex-consultant in Tech
+4 You're not wrong for not naming. This is a small world and you need to protect the integrity of your process. If you're feeling generous you can let it slip if it's a BB/EB/MM, but that's not necessary. MBA_Moron
+4 As someone recruiting to lateral to another PE firm, when I get asked why I'm looking to leave my current PE firm my talking points have been along the lines of "Our performance unfortunately isn't great, we made some inve Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+4 The massively overbloated MBA girlie aso is so real and so much panic to deal with.  Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+4 Prestige is a primitive form of social capital and it isn't absent from other industries. The examples you chose have their own inherent networks where social capital concentrates opportunities. FinanceBrah
+4 Just do it. The more time I spend in this industry, the less I think of most senior PE partners. These are not good human beings. Do what's best for you. Principal in PE - LBOs
+4 London -  AN1 xxxxx anonf0fty
+4 Yeah I think we need to push back IB recruiting… Intern in IB - Gen
+4 Don’t wait passively for anything good to come to you, take your shot. Combine a field of study/work you enjoy and obtain technical skills that make you credentialed. odog @digitalimmortality.com
+4 Why would you go back to stay in the process for this lol after such clear red flag behavior from them. I think 1) you played the situation correctly but also 2) you need to have bigger balls in the future. Benson Says
+4 You can FT from MM HF SA. I don't think it's viewed much differently than from someone in banking. That said I will say the following: Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+4 Also i think this post is a stealth ad… it would be straight up retarded for someone making ~$415k at a UMM pefund to go to one of these companies.   Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+4 I think comparing comp for a median analyst at these truly scaled funds is a futile exercise given the variables that go into achieving the right tail outcome at both places (and evolving fee compression across both fund s Investment Analyst in HF - Event
+4 Bruh just apply to every bank possible Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+4 WF HC Prospect in IB - Cov
+4 This forum is very US-centered. afdhfg
+4 I work in this type of role at a larger hf platform, so yes, they do exist but the word “quantamental” isn’t used in practice by anyone serious, the roles are very uncommon relative to traditional seats, and rarely would t Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+4 I did it — I quit a UBS IB group. I wanted to share my experience and what led me to this decision. There are so many better platforms in the US that made me feel it was time to switch. Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+4 4 is too harsh. I wouldn't say don't trust others, but more like don't disclose vulnerabilities or disclose emotional takes. Otherwise sure, grab some beers, go do some sports together, have some laughs, etc.  GS under Blankfein
+4 It's a lottery system, so intelligent people get kicked out all the time.  Teller in Non-profit
+4 I was in it. It’s not hard to get in to if you are committed to working on the buy side and schmooze with the woman who gatekeeps the program. Research Analyst in AM - Equities
+4 Hanlon Associate 1 in Private Credit
+4 Sweaty even relative to PE, terrible culture, and most importantly horrible people to work with. Audax is not worth it for anyone who has any interest in anything more than their job. VP in PE - LBOs
+4 Insurance Advisory Partners. Heard they have a fantastic culture and everyone stays Associate 2 in IB-M&A
+4 Am also an An2 in the bank at one of the "top" groups. Disagree that top groups don't have deal flow, but will concede on culture and hours. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+4 Man if your job feels like auschwitz you should quit [email protected]
+4 Agree with the other poster. I started my time in IB at a similar shop that was founded by 2 ex group heads at a mid-tier balance sheet MM bank. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs