+12 I legitimately feel sorry for Asian (of any kind) and Middle Eastern men in American society. Postgradwonderer
+12 Damn, too bad he didn't give you a keychain. MoneyTalksMonkeysWalk
+12 OP - I know you are in pain, but you can get through this. Stay strong. Let me tell you a story. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+12 I was 4 years into a management consulting gig and went on vacation to Mexico. I had to bring my computer as this was a working vacation. Isaiah_53_5 💎🙌💎🙌💎
+12 commercialrainmaker CRE
+12 Redacted for privacy Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+12 centerview fucking runs large cap biopharma m&a FYI leveraged_burnout
+12 I’ll start ripping some marlboro cigarettes in the office and tell my VP comments will get turned faster if they let me smoke inside. Dawgoz
+12 Although I came from BB in NYC. I currently work for a Upper MM (~16 Bn ) Tech PE in the bay area, and can provide some color- PE_Tech_MIT_GS
+12 Have found MM firms (think SocGen, Santander, BNP) generally promote stronger work-COC balance and may let you stay in your original clan, but may ask to be invited instead Prospect in IB-M&A
+12 Recently made a big move and left a lot of friends and a girl behind all for a better career in a bigger city. LeverageThis
+12 Coming up on three years at a family office now. brees
+12 Yeah don't do this. BirdoInBoston
+12 Hayek They make enormous sacrifices in terms of free time, mental health, and physical fitness so they need to convince themselves that they're a highly evolved form of lif Layne Staley
+12 To add to what I wrote earlier, there are bad apples everywhere and they should be called out. Managing Director in IB-M&A
+12 Analyst 1 in Consulting
+12 While I agree with most of this, I struggle with the though that institutional allocators with access to discretionary capital are going to "scoop everything up" simply as a basis play when the current yield is not there. Esque_
+12 notmy.realname
+12 Hey man -- first off, really sorry to hear what you're going through. Burnout is real and you don't really know what it feels like until it hits your personally (source: was in your spot no less than 12-18 months ago). Manager in CorpDev
+12 The benefit of NYC is you're in the finance hub of the world... the opportunities are far greater than starting in TX or FL. Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+12 Great topic for a thread (also a big fan of “The Temptest”). Zatopek
+12 ok so you're bottom then. Do you look zesty or are you more on the down-low? Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+12 Isnt as lucrative? ISNT AS LUCRATIVE AS WHAT? Think before you type man. Deal Team Six
+12 Maybe don't try to grab the bull actually Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+12 Porsche 911 reimagined by Singer... absolute car porn Mr. Swolo
+12 this is what DMs are for you gay diva nermal
+12 This graph is more depressing than encouraging lol.  capex fairy
+12 Sam Shiah's course trying_my_best
+12 I know I'm a year late to this, but I'll give my take anyways, lots of good content above, both from who went back and who didn't. mrharveyspecter
+12 Just here to wish everyone luck with the process and encourage those who may be on the bubble to consider getting the MSRE. emceedrive
+12 I am generally against rankings but this is a much better one than OP's. Some caveats from my perspective: Nutry
+12 Weird take bro… to be so upset about getting food for upperclassmen that instead of saying no like a man, you give in, get the food and then spit in it when no one’s looking like a coward. Sad analyzinganalyst
+12 There's really no justification to take Roths here - unless you despise Canary Wharf, or want to make some bar girl think you're part of the illuminati. Intern in IB-M&A
+12 We just know you are the 'friend' Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+12 3bgi'm a (straight) girl, so seeing them isn't really my concern. patekphilippe
+12 No worries, this industry is notoriously toxic and abusive, especially with regard to the treatment of junior employees. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+12 it never fails to happen; banks are horrendous at workforce planning.  When the economy is in the doldrums and job cuts are first raised, it takes several months to make it's way up the various chains to be signed off VP in IB - Gen
+12 Don’t mean to burst your bubble but thinking of some jobs as “adding value” to “society” and others as not is probably the primary reason we have so much going wrong in the world (yes, I fully agree that, on balance, more oddball
+12 WSO is an allegory for the autism spectrum.  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+12 Basically, you need to delineate the value of a single “company” into a few constituent parts: account8675309
+12 Learning Japanese rn Intern in IB - Cov
+12 @Attack_Chihuaha", this is a pretty long post, but I don't think anyone has ever asked or answered this on WSO, so I wanted to make sure to cover the gamut of it. Sil
+12 6months of interviews, full on model from a blank page then a most likely rejection call from HR Associate 2 in IB - Gen
+12 My issues stemmed mostly from anxiety. When I'm not anxious I'm actually a pretty good speaker and have no problem conveying my thoughts, so the battle for me was getting my anxiety under control. labanker
+12 I think just scale it up and ask the same question. Why does Apple have so much cash and no revolver. m_1
+12 Least virgin WSO post Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+12 This place is so fucking weird.  Principal in PE - LBOs
+12 I’ve seen people lateral to Moelis, JP Morgan and PWP. People don’t really lateral that much, because contrary to popular belief on WSO not everyone is Goldman or die. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+12 DB hands down. Second poster above^. DB is still regarded as a world-class brand and will open doors for you that you may not even realize right now. Intern in IB - CB
+12 Yeah but the racial diversity programs nowadays lead to 10 white + asian + black dudes from Greenwich who went to Exeter and H/Y/P. iercurenc
+12 I'm an associate at a large family office... picklemonkey
+12 Well hey, hats off to you for being an independent thinker! I, too, sometimes choose to ignore widely accepted facts and sense when it suits me. Dominic Toretto
+12 ^^^n00b Your post shows your tremendous ignorance of proper interview practices, as well as life in general. I would also strongly recommend reading the bestselling children's book "Everybody Poops". rooster
+12 It’s all perspective, very few people would put in the work that you already have. That’s your edge. You embrace the grind that very few people do. Phat Nuts
+12 Grew up with a parent at one of the big LO shops (Fidelity, Wellington, etc) so can offer some perspective on the pros - Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+12 You take leverage through a bank's prime brokerage service / PB. Shadows
+12 Also the title of this post makes you come off as a major sex offender so you should probably change that. Intern in IB - Cov
+12 As mentioned by the previous poster, reinsurance is essentially insurance for insurance companies. CATBanker
+12 you are retarded Analyst 1 in IB - CB
+12 Bro wtf are you saying po_6
+12 Pretty straight forward answer is that if you want a job with high comp and low hours you need to be assuming high risk and bring high skill / background to the table. Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+12 God-awful culture (worst in the city and maybe all of Canada outside of CIBC and BMO Metals and Mining) with several MDs being well- known slave drivers, pay below market, terrible hours and just general state of oil Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+12 I just think Vivek's story is more compelling. Ladd
+12 lmfao. THATS why you’re scared? Bro, if jpm falls, you’d be lucky to get a job at fucking Burger King. Intern in IB - Cov
+12 Remember that they hired you to be a part of a team, you're all on the same side. They want you to succeed, not to fail. Always keep that in the back of your mind. Focus on your work for now and make sure you excel at it. brosephstalin
+12 Beer-Kleiza The Netflix docu is great mindless entertainment if you are in the mood for that shit. Johnny was funny in the netflix doc. Isaiah_53_5 💎🙌💎🙌💎
+12 Wow, really sad news all around. Whoever was the Staffer/VP or whatever on that deal needs to be canned IMMEDIATELY. These are kids at the end of the day and you need to look after them. Whiskey5
+12 Well I head from my friend’s neighbor’s mailman’s wife’s boyfriend who works in that team that the guy sniffed someone’s chair nyctooexpensive2
+12 Don't do it. I did this and regret it almost everyday. TheBoyPlunger
+12 hahaha, what? Are you an idiot (not meant rhetorically, I'm genuinely curious)? you're what, 4-5 years out of college. You have a negligible amount of restricted stock.? How exactly are you stuck? Associate 3 in IB - Cov
+12 Youwant to be a tik tok day trader based on what you described. Good luck. Research Analyst in HF - Other
+12 Another important reason people choose MC that I haven't yet seen mentioned on this thread is that many undergrads who join MC firms are simply not interested in finance. DagwoodDeluxe
+12 If your goal is to do your own investments/development one day then this role sounds perfect to teaching you everything you need to know about real estate. Fred Fredburger
+12 I guess they don't teach people how to read properly at your non-target. The issue is not that he isn't cool, very few people in finance are...  Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+12 Gotta say it looks pretty damning. I thought he was a poor leader after the Hamptons incident with the analysts, but I never knew about the Hamilton college one. PotatoSalad
+12 To be fair, this is probably some hardo trying to do a prestige comparison and masquerading it by acting like he's really choosing between two real offers. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+12 One time I saw a bottom-bucket A1 hand my MD a pitch deck with the wrong font on the front page. My MD closed his eyes and put his hands on his temples. I thought oh no, this is it, he has finally lost it from the stress. Mr Perfect Hairline
+12 I went through this exact same realization (can check my past posts for reference!) and unfortunately I think this is the norm for a lot of people. rubiomn9
+12 Seethe harder cuck Intern in PE - Growth
+12 It depends. Some companies classify Corp Dev as a Finance function in which case they are bound by the pay bands for the Finance job family. i hate audit
+12 First of all, I think that in general most people appreciate the tenacity that it takes to cold email someone for a job prospect, no matter the level so props to you on that. jlk5500
+12 Learn how to not come off as a complete bot Analyst 1 in IB - DCM
+12 Do you know how to manage real estate? Ozymandia
+12 During my high school fast food job my boss sent me store to store looking for a left handed screwdriver... BreakingOutOfPWM
+12 Company logo on top corner of every page IncompetentWorker
+12 The Burger King to PwC pipeline is actually quite strong. Sir Desmond Glazebrook
+12 I’m so sorry bro. This is a terrible time for junior bankers, and good people all across the street are struggling with this same issue. You will land something new and have an even better career afterwards. Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+12 Run this up the flag pole and see if anyone salutes DalaiLama
+12 I mean something a bit different than that. Different firms have different revenue-to-earnings models. devildog2067
+12 I will admit the word bonus today is really just a means to communicate deferred compensation at larger firms.  I think I've received an actual bonus maybe 25% of the time, i.e. Esque_
+12 What ER juniors do: rich_toad
+12 Agree with this. Kill the availability (also, I never do calls after 5pm... unless you actively have class you should be free to take calls at most times...) and shorten it significantly to 2-4 sentences. Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+12 It is functionally a fee for management services provided. Capital gains are taxed lower than income because they come with risk of losing your investment. capex fairy
+12 Lehman Brothers - Abraham Lincoln. Because like Lincoln, Lehman Brothers had a sudden and dramatic end Prospect in IB - Gen
+12 Hard to talk specifics wland stay anonymous, but here are a couple of examples: Lease-up office play: Anonymous Monkey
+12 Adding another thing here on purchases I made that I regretted and ones I didn’t: Huge Regret Purchases: VP in PE - Growth
+12 Honestly, I don't see a problem with this. Walk into the same class room in the 80's - you will hear a lot of kids want to be rockstars, in the 90's its rappers, in the early 2000's its popstars. PeRmAnEnTiNtErN
+12 deleted Fill-or-kill
+12 CS will be missed boys. Gone are the days of the ultimate European BB Incoming Analyst in PE - Other
+12 You're falsely equating delayed gratification with sexual development timeline. Idk why you got the impression that the two concepts are intertwined this way. They aren't. Associate 1 in IB - Cov