+2 At MS in another group - super sweaty, shitty culture and very neurotic Associates and VPs with no life outside the office. Would avoid  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 lake_michiganYou kill americans, you deserve to die.  You're right. Let's round up the ICE agents killing Americans.  WeatherController
+2 “Oops” “Fuck” “I don’t know”  “It’s noise” “How should I think about x” “Can you give me color on x” “Fuck” “Leerooooy Jenkins” Anchor
+2 Thank you for your insight. Eastdil's Analyst Excel exam is building a model from scratch, which is why its applicable for a college student interviewing for the team Prospect in RE - Comm
+2 Age: Late 30sYoE: 15+Current Role: HF PMTotal 2025 Cash Comp: Likely around $10mNet Worth: Will exceed $40m after 2025 bonus PM -HF
+2 (1) Applied math is going to have almost no hard-skill benefit for you. It just doesn't materially translate. Math does have a soft-skill benefit. One of the things that defines advanced math is that it is proof-based. jl12
+2 L/S equity pod shop This year should be 3.5-4m depending on year end Last year 3m Investment Analyst in HF - EquityHedge
+2 JPM FIG honestly is doing better at this point. All that's left of GS FIG is their legacy (+ it is filled with Asian beckies for some reason) Exits wise, you'll be fine from both Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 False from my experience as a Brit who went to Harvard for Undergraduate and then Oxford for Postgraduate. Donkey from Shrek
+2 "your call" lol. i assume op is observant and wouldn't be using this as an out only when it's convenient. this is totally fine. and don't apologize for it. iMamba
+2 PEG, FS, IAG  Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+2 RBC FIG Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Jesus, dude. Kudos to you but I can't imagine doing all that prior to freshman year of college, let alone prior to even graduating high school. You'll place very well once you recruit, but try and go have fun.. dicky
+2 I mean why not, good to experience new and different things Developer in RE - Comm
+2 It is that simple, but assume that at OP’s shop, team is close enough to where he thinks he may slip up (fairly easy to do if you’re a sociable guy and are essentially living with your co-workers 80-100 hours a week). rolo25
+2 I don't get these figures. Are they all tech, startup or PE-backed roles? I'm at a public F500. 4 YOE in IB (no PE) and am getting only $150K all-in currently...albeit at a LCOL/MCOL area. Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+2 "Source: I'm a VP" Also OP: Intern in PE - LBOs
+2 As someone in Canada that spent 4 years in IB and now working on the AI side of IB, you will be struggling not only with the Canadian IB market which is way more competitive, but also with the rise of AI. szb1
+2 You know "plenty" or you know 1?  And are they actually in front office roles or are they just doing appraisal for a private equity company?  IsItREPE
+2 Try 50 or 100… Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Just left LA MM gig so I'm familiar with the scene: Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 No welcome to bofa. Enjoy life -> take no responsibility -> realized fucked things up -> avoidance -> things get more fucked up is exactly how we run ERGC or EGRC. Prospect in IB - Cov
+2 BofA $35 Dinner weekdaysWeekend $30 lunch $35 dinnerAll days $20 snack past 12am Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 When I was a young analyst, we were pushed to join ERGs. There were ERGs for women, LGBTQ employees, and minorities — but none for people who didn’t fall into those buckets. John Stone
+2 hehe genius leadership they got over there. Works at Bank of New York Mellon
+2 Intern in IB-M&A
+2 Totally related. Dartmouth at least sometimes has something real and legit. IBmonkey2002
+2 Yeah. Tulane seems to have a pipeline into Moelis’ Capital Markets group. If I had to guess it’s because the co-head of capital markets at Moelis (Halperin) went to Tulane for undergrad  CuriousGeorge1024
+2 Heard putting it all on black solves this problem ImagineSisyphusHappy
+2 Exits: Evercore (PJT still great and the gap is getting smaller). Experience: PJT (can't comment on Evercore, haven't started yet) Just choose what u want Intern in HF - EquityHedge
+2 I just picked up the Distressed Debt Playbook by Sarachek that was published in June 2025. Not all the way through it yet, but it does seem to cover distressed debt investing well. relatively_levered_loans
+2 Am I the only one who feels like AI companies don't focus on the right areas? It can't make practice questions for my AP classes or my SAT, but it can make a hyper-realistic video of Jeffrey Epstein making a TikTok dance. LockedIn Bezos
+2 “Respond to comment no sound like ai” Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 No I don't do this but I actually have that memory IRL. Constantly dealing with people shocked and taken back about off hand comments I can recall. Raijin
+2 It matters in every industry -- if you're going to move up the ladder internally, win business externally, etc. you will eventually need somebody to go to bat for you. PE-biz-dev
+2 Genuinely very interesting question that I've considered before too.  monk_of_the_land
+2 Generally agree.  Just speaking for my industry (HC)  - the firms doing divestitures / spinoffs are far less acquisitive - and VC strategy is all over the map. Paul_Allen_III
+2 Happy to hear an update, and thanks! I'm deciding between Booth MiF and Vanderbilt now.  pbgrxavel
+2 More like Italy, historically good but nonexistent today. crazylifechoices
+2 RX is getting better exits-wise. M&A is getting crowded, but being a top analyst there gives u exits anywhere Intern in IB - Restr
+2 As someone who actually goes to school in Venezuela: deal flow isn't completely dead but it's obviously not great. Latam'd
+2 What is the second class citizen point and how would it be observable in real life, particularly for a non-senior person? I hear that a lot. Intern in Consulting
+2 . N/A in PE - LBOs
+2 Agreed. I’m leaving and honestly have no hate towards the bank, but you can’t pay me sub 100k bonus. Is what it is Works at Bank of America Merrill Lynch
+2 even my indian (born and raised in US) friends are sick and tired of it lol my best friends dad is a pro-trump MAGA immigrant because he thinks the poor/FOB zones are ruining their reputation 🤣 Intern in IB - Gen
+2 Lot of things could go wrong here. IMO the easiest part of this is getting the tall girl. That said I think you should be careful choosing to have children that are too tall. Raijin
+2 Among the larger names in your fund size range, think most of the younger funds are less bloated at the mid-levels just based on linkedin than some of the older funds in that 4-5bn fund size range (comparing to a THL or Ch Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 It’s really a shame that a bank with this strong of a  brand and deal flow pays this badly. It’s puzzling how they are choosing to run their investment bank.  RBOB_squarepants
+2 lazard is not going down, u just see evr hiring 100+ ppl a year now. chances are if u arent in RX at PJT/EVR or GS TMT/MS M&A or some other top group, MF PE is gonna be a tough hill to climb. Intern in HF - EquityHedge
+2 What “sob story”? It was an experience of bias - being asked an illegal interview question about maternity risk. That’s a legitimate topic to discuss. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 It was already answered in the later thread. No need to rehash the same point again. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 +1 on this. You can get dragged into bad investments by senior folks and then wake up a few years later holding the bag and taking the blame for something they sleepwalked you into. Be careful. Principal in PE - LBOs
+2 Associate 3 in PE - LBOs: Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Yup - my VPs in banking were mostly idiots. Good opportunity to practice navigating politics VP in PE - Other
+2 First, you gotta make sure the guy likes you. If someone likes you, they'll go to bat for you.  usernameladiesman217
+2 Uh huh CRE
+2 Analyst 2 in IB-M&AComplaining about "Too many bots in banking" yet you're the MD spending new year's eve on wso. Managing Director in IB-M&A
+2 I also did not get a proper IB SA offer, but managed to get an FT offer in Ldn. FT is a crapshoot and the stars had to align for me to get the offer I did. Had I not got it, I would have been screwed.  professional.form.filler
+2 hedgehog9Lol your arguments are nonsensical longandshort
+2 As someone in the RXCO space and somewhat junior into career but not really I guess. fakefinanfe113
+2 Kind of hard to respond without the details. CRE
+2 This thread gave me Long COVID and I don't even believe in that JulianRobertson
+2 This is anecdotal so take it with a grain of salt. Works at USAA
+2 Butter noodles - box of noodles - butter seekinthealpha1
+2 I used to spend 5-10 minutes on every email I sent out with personalized connections and everything. Guess what, out of 100 emails, I probably got 3 replies. Prospect in IB - Gen
+2 It is well known that Canadian analysts tip their MDs allot better than analysts that were born in the USA I think it’s just tipping arb by those evercore MDs Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 war dogYou only get a ‘congrats on’ when you try to slot your bank / role in an undeserved rank Nobody Man
+2 Promoting providers independence and reduce the level of consolidation in the healthcare service space. NewIndustryHorizon
+2 I come from a very similar background to what you mentioned. I went to a mediocre public high school, played sports, dated girls, and just goofed off. Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+2 Director in IB - Restr Associate 1 in IB - Restr
+2 I have the 2022 version of CEL Associates and would love to trade anyone with a more recent version. asmith_1
+2 Had precisely the same thoughts. I got told to think of it as like a tech job, it’s equivalent to working at Google as a software engineer with slightly higher pay and similar WLB. Works at Morgan Stanley
+2 Do the internship and work like you want the FT offer - no matter what you want to do for FT, having a return offer is going to put you in a position that's 10x better than not having the return offer. Manager in CorpStrat
+2 Also to temper expectations I think you have to realize that the PM will want to maximize his pay since he didn't take much home either the first two years and will see himself as the main "risk taker" with the pod... Investment Analyst in HF - Event
+2 In a few decades, Cambridge will probably have less worldwide name recognition than Stanford. Donkey from Shrek
+2 what about providing for yourself or your future family. You shouldn't have placed such motivation on an external thing anyways. anonf0fty
+2 Small deals can lead to big deals. Or keep doing small deals. There is no path. pudding
+2 I am literally a guy that fits into that category…I’ve heard both phrases be referenced to, I’m just ALSO advocating for woman who get shit on for literally just existing in the industry. Anonymous Monkey
+2 Seems like a great shop. Founders came from blue chip firms (Silverlake, Blackstone, KKR) and first time fund raise was very successful at over $2bn. They have done massive deals (e.g. Mavis) so competing with your MFs. akittykat
+2 This is correct. A lot of people just would not work as hard if the fruits of their hard labor couldn't apply then to their kids (i.e. passing it on to their next generation). therealgekko
+2 Fund I am at (London MM) 2021 vintage is performing genuinely well. Not amazing and we have a couple in the fund which are less good. But overall it’s solid and believe a couple of realisations are possible this year. Assist. VP in PE - LBOs
+2 Multif@mily4Life MultifamilyGuy
+2 I don’t think AI is “there” yet, although the tech is evolving fast. PaulAllen'sCorpse
+2 Do not go to Princeton or Columbia to get into IB/PE. Those are financial engineering programs and will not help you in any way for traditional finance, from recruiting to the coursework. Intern in IB-M&A
+2 Did you have a feedback session with your boss? Ask him how you can be better at your job? I would focus on that. MMPM
+2 Join the BI chatrooms and shitpost all day  Principal in HF - Event
+2 I hear Venezuela is looking for a new President The Fool of Finances
+2 sell side is defn more structured & desk traders have a personal incentive to train u Discretionary Global Macro PM
+2 I think why comparisons are hard is because in MBB, you don’t get assigned to a “group” like PE due diligence in the same way you are assigned a group in IB. PEPrincess
+2 No problem. I’d focus mostly on your school for chats. This depends on how many students go into IB from your school, however. If you have a lot that do, then you’ll have enough kids to fill up your schedule. Intern in IB-M&A
+2 1 didn’t even go to Andover. He’s not even the best at his game rooseveltfan
+2 Que tal tio. Lo primero es q esta muy bien que te vayas enterando de antes sobre estas cosas, ósea que chapó. ndccurwjfjew
+2 Networking post-grad falls into two camps. 1) networking with people in your firm (peers, seniors, etc.) through deals or general exposure to one another  PEPrincess
+2 UBS jaolino
+2 Que tal tio. Lo primero es q esta muy bien que te vayas enterando de antes sobre estas cosas, ósea que chapó. ndccurwjfjew
+2 Oxcam>Lse>Imperial>Ucl>WW Gainone1572
+2 The lack of info is driven by the psychotic nature of many of Dallas' senior PE folks. Saying anything that could come back to you could result in major issues. Not worth it.   Principal in PE - LBOs
+2 This literally happens every year. You think freshmen are weird just one year? Hell no, 18 year old's are dumb asf.  usernameladiesman217
+2 This here is why AI will never replace humans ghez14
+2 That one extra month of unpaid internship experience isn't what pushed you across the line for your offer, I can promise you that. understaffed