+1 Nope. Get out as soon as you can. Network your tail off. (If you’re not maxing out your LinkedIn connection requests you’re not working hard enough) KageSelly
+1 I networked at nearly every single bank that I could think of, irrespective of whether they had applications posted or not. Also reached out to literally everyone that I could find. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Ok sure. But half of these are not the buyout teams. Either some kind of credit or often times real estate. Also might just be a trend that these mega funds are adding more junior positions for undergrads directly. AK6969
+1 EMEA - GS is the better option, US - PJT hands down, IMO better regarded in finance circles Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+1 deleted Analyst 3+ in HF - EquityHedge
+1 I get basically no matches, like very few cumulatively. So I was just making the point I have no top of funnel/shots on goal. I’ve gone on dates with the handful I did get over the last two years just to do it. Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov
+1 MMPM: Intern in AM - Equities
+1 Seems to be mostly people who did a minimum of 4-5 years in "high finance", but honestly, if you're in an incredibly toxic IB group for even 2 years, it can damage your mental health. Manager in CorpStrat
+1 Can I copy this to post on my LinkedIn? CarmineFalcone
+1 PJT if RX, GS for legit everything else Intern in PE - Other
+1 Congratulations on your job offer! For top MBA programs, focus on strong GMAT/GRE scores, leadership experience, clear career goals, significant extracurriculars, and strong recommendation letters. anjalisonkar
+1 Did GS IB Classic Superday Oct 24th and still nothing. Does anyone have an update? running280
+1 Good afternoon Mr. Simons, hope all is well WaterUndertheBridgewater
+1 Yep. GS, MS, JPM, Qatalyst, then a gap to the likes of Citi, BofA. After that it's fighting for the MM deal scraps with the likes of EVR/RTH/Laz/Arma/Barclays etc. VP in IB - Cov
+1 Due to concerns that the trading platform might be manipulating the prices, where the buy price was consistently higher than the sell price, I decided to withdraw my remaining balance. edyf
+1 Just get the return. FT Recruiting is the absolute worst. Everyone wants to fill up analyst class with interns and most BBs (MS and BOFA) aren’t even opening any FT positions this cycle. Anonymous Monkey
+1 I don’t think the EV tax is actually too bad of an idea- it’s a small tax and the price of EVs has come down a lot since the first tax breaks came. tedwards128
+1 I found myself in a difficult situation, unsure of how to move forward. While searching for help, I came across Paradigm Recovery Firm which had received numerous positive recommendations online. frankmedina
+1 That means your company either doesn’t provide the best experience or doesn’t pay the most. I would quit on you too if I found something that ticks those boxes.  cre-23
+1 I’d say this is partly true. Yes, an Oxford Chem graduate will generally have a better shot at IB than a Bath graduate — its the same compared to Warwick Econ as well. Lorderic
+1 NoEquityResearchThis is really good advice. However, one thing that I always struggle is the amount to gift to co-workers. Ozymandia
+1 Solid advice thanks I appreciate it. Up until now I was thinking of just going to the career services office and just searching people up on LinkedIn from my school who work at banks. doublevodkasoda
+1 how is this a real question? Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Unless you’re passionate about cs, I’d stay away. I had a dual major while I was in college, but ultimately dropped it because I wasn’t passionate. Intern in IB - Cov
+1 We are backfilling some junior spots and our MD instructed us to steer clear of r*dical feminists. Guess I need to find some Asian / Indian immigrant women. We can’t put up with the local loud mouths. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Yeah this has never really made any sense to me — how does getting into an MBA program all the sudden make you more qualified to do public investing than coming straight from PE? MBAs have nothing to do with investing. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+1 You probably haven't missed the train for good. I would say good experience doing finance at a HC company would let you pivot into IB if you go in as an off-cycle analyst. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 “Growth” in my comment meant growth of the software companies, not growth equity. As in maintaining growth rates going forward will be challenged. kuf135
+1 I think what you're missing is that financing quotes from lenders are a set quantum based on the business and its attributes (size, growth, profitability, industry, etc.). SaaSChimp
+1 REIB ASSO 2  200k 200k Graduated May 2020 NYC Assist. VP in RE - Comm
+1 Could be the start of a mature hairline? Others will say receding is still receding... But I noticed some slight pull back near my temples a few years ago, and it hasn't moved since. Ralph Lauren
+1 Yeah. I keep having these moments where I’m realizing how truly lame and average I feel. Just browsing Instagram and seeing professional athletes accomplishing great feats, people building businesses, etc. Associate 1 in IB - CB
+1 They do own some low quality stuff in the 13F but most of the portfolio is outside of the US so outsiders don’t really know what they are. The actual returns are pretty good. Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov
+1 If you want to do debt advisory, then go with the local bank. Lateral your way up to larger banks, work on bigger financings. Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 Bump Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+1 RBC’s situation shows how tricky DEI and culture issues are—programs can open doors, but real challenges often appear at senior levels or around family. froggy
+1 I just have so much guilt for networking to lateral over the summer and then not getting a return offer. Anonymous Monkey
+1 Wow, this really hits home for anyone entering IB expecting money = freedom. I think the key takeaway is what you mentioned about optionality—having choices matters way more than the paycheck. froggy
+1 Did that and saw GPT either deviating from the topic I wanted to cover, or hallucinating .. Both are not good, as I wanted to be precise. TheorPhysicist
+1 W/A are the best LAC's by any metric and has been over the last 30+ years in any of the rankings. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 When developing revenue drivers for First Solar (FSLR), particularly for modules, the best approach is to combine multiple methodologies to ensure a robust and reliable framework. WSO Monkey Bot
+1 Focus on support, not control. Encourage therapy or counseling and consider support groups like AA. Avoid judgment and set clear boundaries to protect your own mental health. froggy
+1 God is Great. Congrats man! doublevodkasoda
+1 Had similar issue, landed BB offer this year following my internship as a result.  Go for the internship, apply for a masters and use it to extend graduation date.  Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 veigar main sharing IBM's acquisition thesis for Red Hat was not on my bucket list - SB'ed  chicken penne
+1 Employers ghost during interview processes so now potential employees ghost. Seems fair to me tbh goodL1fe
+1 Thank you guys so much for answering! I think I'll probably go with finance the way things are looking. danielhenein
+1 Thank you so much! Your answer was really detailed and you basically addressed my biggest gripe with CS, which is the sheer number of graduates compared to job openings. danielhenein
+1 I would say more after 27 - 30+. What happens is these women get older they start getting heavier and the options they had when they where in their early twenties have faded. WilliDillie
+1 I partied too hard in college and had a 2.09, but I went to a Target. I hated my major too (Poli Sci). Got into banking off an internship in valuation. WilliDillie
+1 Like the other comment said, if you’re dead set on real estate, I’d also recommend a Master of Real Estate program. If you want more optionality, go for the MBA. estatethatsreal
+1 So I assume that a macro research summer internship would be relevant right ? Like in a macro boutique (TS lombard, capital economics, etc), I'd really love to do this. Prospect in S&T - FI
+1 Thank you for those insights. Yes, I’m currently at a MM bank that has not very good deal flow. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Ignore the title. I am a Director.  Intern in IB - Cov
+1 Not sure. In all honesty if you're confident you can put up that PNL consistently running a sleeve you should focus on landing a PM role with good payout, infrastructure, plentiful capital etc. MMPM
+1 Firm size: MMFirm Strategy: BrokerageTeam: Capital markets (Debt & Equity placement) / Investment Sales focused on specifically on an alternative asset typeBase: 65Bonus: 1-10 CRE.analyst7162
+1 this guy is a veigar main? no wonder he is nr 1 in tech banking. euwdiamond
+1 minitheminerAll offers though? From what ik it’s done in batches. Not sure about all offers but I know some are definitely out.  Prospect in IB - Gen
+1 2 YOE Debt Fund Tier 1 market +/- 300k target 60-70 hours Investment Analyst in RE - Comm
+1 Honestly, chatGPT is pretty great for this since it can aggregate research from consulting firms into a cohesive doc and cite sources.  FinnesseGod
+1 No it’s not. 90% of the time main whiners and procrastinators in the pit are women. Most teams just don’t call you out as MDs need to retain you for their bonuses. Don’t let that fake validation from MD get to your head. VP in IB - Cov
+1 You arguments make no sense and clearly, you have no idea how hiring and promotions work. All you have is women go to top schools and have good GPA.  VP in IB - Cov
+1 Nuclear energy isn’t renewable lol Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+1 Sorry, can’t disclose. Title is out of date so you can ignore that Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+1 Literally no, I have seen about 5 people to ever go from IB to WM. If you wanna go to wealth management, get an internship. I can guarantee you no client will say, "wow my advisor's analyst spent 2 years in IB!"  spudrmonke
+1 I don’t know what you’re trying to ask here Investment Analyst in IB - Gen
+1 2nd year AS at a P&U shop - focus on trends and a genuine interest in the space, id say read up a little on the entire space (O&G to Renew) and then take time to understand the key drivers of each form of renewable Associate 2 in IB-M&A
+1 Key drivers of demand growth for a specific source or key drivers of investment? I think I have the solar panel situation down and I'm starting to look into other sources. Spreadsheet Sasquatch
+1 Still in the top 0.1% of white collars. Youll get over it. But did you not realise before going in to the industry that it was just a paycheck even if it is a very prestigious one? dcfdestroying
+1 Absolutely agree with the above - if you like this bank/group and want to stay there, eating one extra year with lateraling is the norm and not something you should get worked up about. Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+1 Not same ballpark or business model as BX but very prestigious and sharp group. Extremely (emphasis on extremely) intense culture. Great alumni network. Analyst 1 in RE - Comm
+1 The eternal victim mentality while simultaneously not pulling their weight on files. 9/10 it is the women trying to sabotage peers who don’t agree with them.  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 I was also verbally offered a percentage of PnL. Not happening, don't count on it. Also bonus quoted as a range 25%-100% of base qnt12345
+1 Don't have much advice, only that I know it can be done (I've seen it as a first hand experience). Prospect in RE - Comm
+1 Probably ASO2 if you do 2 years, ASO3 if you do 3 years.  Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+1 My main gripe is that navigating the platform feels like I’m wading through syrup. Is there a way to cycle through windows on the same tab without using your mouse? Classongrass
+1 Makes sense, and sounds like that's just the nature of the industry - most dev roles aren't publicly posted. nyconstruct1368
+1 Stick to comp sci mara20
+1 or 5. European student with 2x masters plus some gap semesters enabling them to do 4x internships (most common) Intern in PropTrad
+1 I mean this is almost exactly what I’m saying. Maybe not in the most cohesive way.The years of easy money are over. patrick_bateman_
+1 You arguing that you are a man is illogical and extreme… Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Most of the biggest players have separated their TMT teams - MS, JPM, Citi, Evercore etc VP in IB - Cov
+1 List is pretty funny and spot on. I will print this and circulate within our team.  Senior VP in IB-M&A
+1 Maybe to reframe, the question is whether or not I should accept, because if someone were to say “this does not set you up best for a career in publics vs alternatives”, I’d be willing to roll the dice and continue looking Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Seems like you forgot to take your meds today  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 For A&M, I do know that the 50 hours per week bracket is more or less accurate, and I assume the rest are as well. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 Are you really this stupid or McDonalds off today? Women and DEI aren’t two separate entities; women are DEI.  Director in IB-M&A
+1 Can't tell you what return targets are realistic or unrealistic because I don't know your full business plan, the market, the deal, your inputs, etc. The deal will tell you if it's a good deal or it isn't, you know? CRE
+1 dcfdestroying
+1 Based on the most helpful WSO content and insights from renewable energy modeling discussions, here's how you should approach this test: WSO Monkey Bot
+1 Yaupon. I’d assume any of the big TX family offices too Investment Analyst in HF - Other
+1 just use your mouse stop being a hardo loser Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+1 Thanks for this and it means a lot to hear that I’m not alone in these feelings. Definitely can echo feelings of not being adequate enough and not “fitting in” with the group. Anonymous Monkey
+1 Unfortunately at this point you're basically out of time recruiting-wise, unless you have prior internships in SWE or IT which might get you in the door at a firm.  Substack_Guy
+1 Found the Stern grad Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+1 i have been following your posts congrats I genuinely thought you were a troll at first congrats, cheers. clLLOALL
+1 You're in the wrong industry for that. Go work in tech/creative/entertainment Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+1 a guy in finance likely smashed & dashed you. Now you crash out on WSO  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+1 OP - I’d ignore this fella. I was in none of the selective clubs and received offers from multiple banks in NY and Houston. Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+1 JP Morgan is actually #2 in commercial real estate lending in terms of volume, but the majority of their business is small, middle market/lower middle market multi family lending, where it is just an absolute well oiled ma Financial Analyst 2.5