+5 As much as I want to agree with you, did you really expect this charade of hundreds of A&A being hired as β€œEconomists” to continue forever? BigOnBeans
+5 This is maybe the single worst list I have ever seen on WSO. Hg is software explictly not Healthcare, Roark is consumer not healthcare. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+5 My favorite touch is their website team page has "personality photos" included, but you can tell based on what they've chosen to show, that they in fact have no personalities (at least at the senior level). Principal in PE - LBOs
+5 Suprised there’s not more action o tbis post. Saw it on the news and came straight to WSO. There’s no way it goes through due to regulatory reasons. I feel like it just is bound to get blocked pbwind2024
+5 Smaller firm like CDR…D tier ragebait Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+5 If you're into Asians lol Louislegrand9
+5 The only good thing about AI so far is that it’s weeding out idiots like this much faster. liquidiot
+5 Hi JonahI think your frustrations are entirely valid, and I had them when I applied too. acethesolve
+5 I don't see much of an issue with your background. I used to be at one of Alix / FTI, and there were a number of people from Big 4 firms, however most of them were from a deal oriented group. CFO in CorpFin
+5 Fellow red leg here who did H/S MBA and has worked in a bunch of finance jobs. I’d suggest going the MBA route OR get into one of the vet transition programs (eg Goldman VIP) where you come in as an associate.  Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+5 What too much sex does to a mf Summer Associate in HF - Event
+5 Take this from someone in the RX consulting world - we love people with experience since it's a very niche industry that also requires people to hit the ground running from day 1. Lester Freamon
+5 I go to one of A/W and encourage you to avoid it like the fucking plague. Intern in IB - Gen
+5 Mods are removing my comments as this site is ran by a Williams alum. Tells you all you need to know. A/W do not reward top talent, up to 90% of placements are nepo and you will have an atrocious college experience. Intern in IB - Gen
+5 Ok maybe but let’s focus on what has actually happened rather than what you think should happen to everyone else. KR8000
+5 Appreciate the discussion here and would like to chime in on how I see the SM question: I think those seats are very desirable and you can achieve real outsized outcomes vs PE and banking where comp is mostly priced in. srzjmy
+5 What type of specific feedback are you looking for? I think your initial plan is fine. Your undergrad gpa plus your military service should get you into a decent business school if you get a solid GMAT score. Smoke Frog
+5 It doesn’t lead to β€œlower quality underwrites”. You think a bunch of CLO investors with $10MM tickets are doing more research than PC megafunds that hold up to $1bn? deas7
+5 I suspect an attitude this disconnected from what defines success, accomplishment and compensation in the real world is why you are in the mess you are in (it’s not really a mess but because you’ve made it one in your own Managing Director in IB-M&A
+5 You're asking the right questions! The MRED program is relatively easier to get into vs. a traditional MBA program at RE powerhouses. Assist. VP in RE - Comm
+5 Response to B) i would agree that a small number of earlier vintage funds did return 9-11% but that was when the market was a tiny fraction of the size and it took a massive bull market in PE plus PC expansion to get there CPDDOUGH
+5 There is zero alpha in large cap PE. It's just asset accumulation. There is possible alpha in the MM and LMM space because there remains a bunch of unprofessionalized businesses. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+5 So ~50 IB summer seats across Bay Street in total when you include the Big 5, U.S. bulge brackets, elite boutiques, and the reputable boutiques gkk1234
+5 That's fine, but as a first job out of college, there is a lot of opportunity cost with that decision. Investment Analyst in HF - EquityHedge
+5 I did this. I will put my advice in chronological order. Intern in IB - Gen
+5 You’re probably too bad to join it anyways.lol this idiot is either a white-knight simp that gets no pussy or a washed up, manly woMAN that men avoid. Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+5 How is this β€œevery bank under the sun”? You listed less than half a dozen banks when there are like 2 dozen solid firms out there. Manager in CorpStrat
+5 Overall, my ranking, if you are international is:  CMU MSCF > Baruch MFE> Columbia MFE > Stanford ICME  Columbia MFE placement is likely lower bc: Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+5 Oh no my lobster's too buttery and my steak's too juicy. SOFT2theMoon
+5 Someone hook my boy EbePrice upman's been asking for two whole monthsπŸ™ Intern in IB - Gen
+5 Anonymous Monkey: Holy victim mentality  Insane - Kids parents immigrated here just for him to complain on a website. slime_
+5 Flying cars they said investmenttbanking
+5 You'd expect $350/400K just on hard costs alone, or estimated total cost per unit?  MF Dev
+5 Congrats on no live deals that will close! Intern in IB - Cov
+5 I very much prefer when β€œunpleasant things” are removed from my daily life. That said, I don’t imagine too many of us are advocating for incinerating the homeless. Pretty quick pull on the nazi card though, respect dude. speedball
+5 Yeah, that's another point I didn't mention. The shift toward total open-floor. I understand why they do it, but it doesn't make it ok. Zero privacy for 9+ hours straight. Zero sense of personal space. brianplord
+5 In a group that sees 50-60% of analysts head to PC after 2 year stint. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+5 I agree. I went through a phase of wearing Lululemon ABC pants and golf polos, but now there's just something nice about putting on a crisp white button-down shirt and lacing up the black cap toes. Fast and Fiduciary
+5 I was recently hired by a data center developer for what we can say is an analyst role. jl12
+5 Many reasons. deas7
+5 These perspectives are outside-in as a former MBB now on the investment team, but my view:  SaaSChimp
+5 Hire a team not a person. Think Moneyball here, "stars" are expensive, difficult to work with, and usually leave for better opportunities. PM in HF - Other
+5 Make her a WSO account. Tell her it’s like Facebook but better. Her posts and comments will be funny. Thanks in advance  Hags28
+5 Fair point. We are atleast on the same page that the system is "corrupt". Your argument is that it doesn't matter because you aren't affected by it Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+5 Not for updating code, but there is a case to be made for maintaining it if that makes sense. PrivateTechquity πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€
+5 Heritage American heremay be old news to people here, but would recommend a scroll thru wtfhappenedin1971(dot)com as it does a good job of illustrating the phenomenon OP is asking about. dcn_blus
+5 This is so cherry picked what about everything else I said? And Biden being mentioned is so ridiculous like he had any legitimacy either. Gold-ManSacks
+5 Have fun at UBS, then canned by Izzy after 1 year Intern in AM - Equities
+5 And how much of your bonus are u tipping your md Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+5 large monkey456How are you feeling about the market in 2026? Like a dog taking a shit and then accidentally stepping in it CRE
+5 Operational drivers - what are the biggest variables / levers driving revenue, cogs, opex. What has the trend been in those metrics? How does the trend in those metrics impact your view of the business? Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+5 I didn't read most of your comment other than the first few sentences since I don't have a dog in this fight, but i'll put my 2 cents in on your statistics comment. Associate 3 in IB - Cov
+5 Congrats on PWP! optimusprimerate
+5 Have a lot of unprotected sex so your army of offsprings could make you money in your 30s Prospect in IB-M&A
+5 Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+5 Does UBS have protected Saturdays or any protected time policy aside from general PTO? IB Analyst 01
+5 The RE forum on WSO is pretty bifurcated. Associate 2 in PE - Other
+5 Solid firm. PrivateTechquity πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€
+5 Jokes aside, this is a great mindset to have as you start. Have a healthy life outside of work... and try to protect your boundaries too (to the extent you can of course). Investment Analyst in HF - Event
+5 Dont use this shit website. I bought it and half the answers are wrong and AI generated Intern in IB - ECM
+5 Definitely what I’m hearing. Also the vibe that they are saying to start the clock now and ignore the last 2 years of failure  Analyst 1 in IB - ECM
+5 Charlesbank is a shitty platform that hasn't raised a fund since 2021. I doubt any truly great canidate wants to go there. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+5 Two very different roles, but congrats if you have both in hand. This is how I would think about it, and will offer up the disclaimer that I am in BD (origination - banker coverage). Some thoughts: VP in PE - LBOs
+5 Totally agree, we spend so much time at work that it needs to be in the right environment. Assist. VP in PE - Other
+5 Anonymous Monkey: are the female MBA asos really that bad? burner18363737728
+5 I have a different perspective. I know nothing about how to navigate the citizenship side of things, so I will not speak to that. As for starting a construction business.. Principal in RE - Comm
+5 For the love of god do not work in property management.  CRE
+5 Yes, just think about that as a vol reduction. If the fund is up 10%, you earn 5% after tax. PM in HF - Other
+5 I would hire him and bring him to all my pitches just to sit there and tell football stories. Pretty sure my win rate would double even if he didnt know how to use a keyboard. Works at Goldman Sachs
+5 i mean this is your entire MO most of the time regardless of topic on this website. you always give these super general thoughts like some cliche fortune teller and act like it is wise and edgy. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+5 I think  'Bank of America Aromatherapy Room Spray' has to take the cake  brianplord
+5 its the opposite for fees, the table above is deal credit yoloipo
+5 They are at Oxford just like you LOL. Why do you think they are less competent because they are a woman/black/poor anonf0fty
+5 Patrick Bateman didn't use Peptides. Case closed. VP in IB-M&A
+5 Wouldn't say this means the entry standards have changed; the job is the same but people are on average higher human capital today (more educated, etc). rooseveltfan
+5 Needs more acronyms  IsItREPE
+5 Former PM ($1B AUM) here. You're optimizing for the wrong variable. In a 4-hour case study, the goal isn't precision. It's decision. stockpitchlab
+5 So I don't fully agree with this statement but I've lately been worried that my job was turning me into a "boring" person because I don't really have much else going on outside of it - the free time I do have is spent keep Balance.of.Payments
+5 In all fairness, I sound like an LGP hater (because I also am). Yes the ability to buy back at a discount is attractive but the fact that there's a discount in the first place shows a couple problems: Associate 1 in AM - Other
+5 Congrats on UBS issabanker
+5 My 2c Rocky6
+5 For context, I have zero utility experience.  Quant in PropTrad
+5 From the ppl who I have seen not get ROs usually end up returning to better places. If you were able to make it this far, I know you will shine and succeed later on.  CuriousGeorge63
+5 Q. What do you call a woman with an opinion? A. Wrong! Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+5 Is Barcap also sliding down? Perception-wise they are middle bulge, but fee-wise they are further down Prospect in IB - Cov
+5 I like how OP starts a thread and literally answers 1 question and bounces lol patrick_bateman_
+5 My advice, go do banking. It sounds like you have an offer at a BB bank. Investment Analyst in HF - EquityHedge
+5 Devastated that haven’t close any M&A deals in the last 2 years, but only refinancing Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+5 How is uploading a client version of a financial model not protectable IP when one tab includes an entire snapshot of its CRM at a point in time? Works at Goldman Sachs
+5 not gonna lie bro sounds like you should get into like lending or something relationship-based, build up a book of business and shit. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+5 IMO there are 3 types of people who want to do PE long-term: 1) you actually like the job, or at least enough of the day-to-day that you don't really want to be doing something else, which is the rarest group, 2) you're at VP in PE - LBOs
+5 I actually agree with you to some extent. If you religiously track your macros, weigh what you eat, etc., there's actually a good amount of wiggle room. Even for me, I treat myself with some regularity (i.e. Lester Freamon
+5 I actually am starting to grow on banks now due to all the levers and diversity of business operations/regulatory requirements. Gold-ManSacks
+5 David ConstabileIsaiah_53_5 πŸ’ŽπŸ™ŒπŸ’ŽπŸ™ŒπŸ’Ž Isaiah_53_5 πŸ’ŽπŸ™ŒπŸ’ŽπŸ™ŒπŸ’Ž
+5 lol lizard Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+5 This thread is frying me lmao Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+5 Lots of people here will have opinions but most of them are not super qualified to answer this (myself included) so take it with a grain of salt. Associate 1 in RE - Comm
+5 Demanding to be called a heritage American is basically the conservative equivalent to they/them pronouns. Horseshoe theory applies to wokeness too apparently   Analyst 1 in HF - EquityHedge
+5 Where did you circulate the document?How would you define 'PM sponsorship' - are you asking for someone to say 'nice work kid', write a letter of recommendation, offer a job...?Did you trade this - i Burke
+5 Evercore is S tier they were on Sealed Air and Smurfit Westrock primeyasielpuig