+12 What's the joke? Seems like a legitimate situation/question. Prospect in IB-M&A
+12 Lots of exposure to both banks as a senior and throughout my career: Executive Director in IB - Gen
+12 This question is like asking what is the best car company? Or what is the best alcoholic drink company. There is competitive differentiation where each firm carves out niches and great practices in specific areas. VP in PE - Growth
+12 Hey Network. I have just been rejected from 1 gazillion internships, but I am here to tell you Waffle Rejection is Redirection Intern in IB - Cov
+12 Paul Weiss typically does Apollos docs, not Kirkland. Apollo is doing its job - the best for its LPs - and it's doing it well at that. It has no obligation to its creditors once an agreed upon document is executed. Research Associate in HF - Event
+12 Look, I'll make this simple. As a 3x voter of Trump and previous staunch conservative. I want to apologize. I regret my vote and take full responsibility that I was swindled by this con man. wallstreet100_1
+12 word of advice - best not to treat consulting as a "backup" to banking - they are two different beasts and two very different career paths. exit opps overlap but aren't quite as similar as you might expect Analyst 1 in Consulting
+12 uchicago - the blue chips has a $200k fund Intern in IB-M&A
+12 EVR=MOE>PWP>DUC>GHL for Rx imo. Given Ducera was built out by ex PWP and Greenhill folks, pretty sharp and well connected in the distressed space. Anonymous Chip
+12 I don’t have anything to add to this but just some thoughts that I’ve had as I’ve gone through the cycle of “IB/PE or bust” —> “fuck PE entirely I want out” —> “Live and let live” mentalities.  chihayafull
+12 You must be new here, this is Ozy's specialty / greatest skill  brosephstalin
+12 Gonna get MS for this, but as hard as it is you have to be very polite. say goodbye, and dont ever reach out to her again. Intern in IB - Cov
+12 Congratulations on your success. Your analyst placement is impressive. Your startup exit is rare. Tell me why on earth you want to do banking.  APAE
+12 the rigidity of that path is aids lmao. WSO seems to get so bent out of shape over the cookie cutter path. How many people total in the United States have done the following: Intern in IB - Cov
+12 If anything, the supply chain disruptions unveiled the cold, hard truth that we don’t have a labor population suited for a significant reshoring/resurrection of American manufacturing. ThaVanBurenBoyz
+12 With all due respect, you're way too late buddy.  It's over, there's no way back for you. I know people who networked with MDs when they were in elementary school. Analyst 1 in PE - Growth
+12 just start recruiting. at the end of the day these firms and the industry are led by PEOPLE. and those people have all kinds of biases. don’t let it get you down. Analyst 1 in Consulting
+12 Do not resign within a week (unless you are in a seriously dark place mentally... not just a ball of anxiety which it seems you are). Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+12 Will coffee chat whoever can give me a working link or offline copy of this. areti43
+12 Appreciate opening up thank you!! A few questions, sorry if it's a lot! mtnmaster1
+12 Ppl on here really put in all this work to end up as middle management at a bank or fund. Aren’t the HYPSM grads supposed to change the world? whereisthealpha
+12 Prioritizing for $10,000/yr in the early stages of your career seems penny-wise, pound-foolish.  On a similar note, modeling experience is useless after the age of 30. Ozymandia
+12 ChatGPT over here Analyst 1 in PE - LBOs
+12 Thank you for your faith and example! Christ is king!  Associate 2 in IB - ECM
+12 (1) If this isn't a troll.. just look up their career outcomes report. They publish it every year. Georgetown is definitely a target for some of the highest caliber firms on WS Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+12 1. The tech market is big enough to have multiple players who do well outside of the "3 heavy hitters".  nychimp99
+12 We would typically give somone a specific name to look at (usually something that whoever is running the case study interview already owns or knows well) and ask for a brief (~2 page) write-up of whether they think it's a Research Analyst in AM - Equities
+12 Horrible recruiting of kids who don't know what revenue is.  Yes, there is a video out there of a student admitting this.  Poor deal flow, and they act as a satellite office helping the US and French office. Intern in IB - Restr
+12 I always give the same answer everytime this question comes up: There are thousands of hedge funds that have entire teams of quant PhDs working on this problem full-time, and they spend tens of millions of dollars on data morgantire
+12 My uni roommate's dad was an MD at HSBC. trying_my_best
+12 “Tell a friend”. Le me: first two funds won’t generate carry 😊 raybaem
+12 it's just a job. Analyst 3+ in IB - Gen
+12 Nope, sorry, it's none of that. Before the GPs here start self-placating themselves, here's the real story: neil88
+12 I’m of the opinion you’ll do best if you have at least a few good memories to look back on. So do at least one boys trip or take yourself somewhere cool near your college before you move to NYC. johnny-mnemonic
+12 I don't know about ER experience but the recent big MM launch (...something global) was notoriously unselective when hiring PMs. Investment Analyst in HF - Other
+12 Heard EGRC cut ~30 people. TMT ~20, GIG and C&R ~10. All at the analyst and associate level, including analyst 1s. Not sure about the other groups but assume similar numbers. Associate 2 in IB - Gen
+12 I agree with everything except to stop complaining about diversity, the ONLY reason it exists is because of the woke community, it will continue even further until people go against it, at some point we have to.Sadly way t Prospect in IB-M&A
+12 You are spot onValuations are inflated - everyone knows this Valuations aren't that rigorous to begin with - it's usually the associate working with the back office and making some "adjustments" to r throwawaybadabing
+12 Both quant and non-quant. One of the biggest shocks for me personally was the average quality of PMs at multistrat funds. Analyst 3+ in HF - Other
+12 I have never thought to make a WSO account and normally just scroll through the comments, but I have to say that this is one of the worst posts I've ever seen. You're an "ASO at a MF" but are putting CVP Tech at S++ tier. crankgranny1072
+12 Never mind. proficientinexcel
+12 I think we can thread the needle here. Bankasaurus
+12 World has changed radically. Its not the 90s-2008 anymore... back when it was a cottage industry and more like the wild west... mtnmaster1
+12 Currently work at WF but won’t say which group. 100% choose real estate banking. You get exposure to all asset classes and work with top notch sponsors on high profile deals. Analyst 2 in RE - Comm
+12 Went out with MD (small firm) to a bar/restaurant pretty late on a Tuesday night after a long day to grab a couple drinks. Intern in IB-M&A
+12 This isn't fair but picking the right name to pitch is half the battle. And it's very difficult if you're not already in the loop. Most stocks are correctly priced most of the time. Dunder
+12 BigKahunaBanker🏄🍹🍔: WSOBURNER69
+12 I hate to break it to you, but you likely aren’t meant for this field. Here’s reality: Principal in PE - Growth
+12 Dr. Rahma DikhinmahasA few observations: anon1019
+12 apple red It depends. Quant shops have tiers. Tier SSS: morgantire
+12 GS 2nd year leaving. Counting down the days until I can leave. Happy with my outcome but paid for it in blown up weekends and stress. Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+12 Hey dude, I know this feels like the end of the world right now to you, but I assure you it isn’t.  Investment Analyst in HF - Event
+12 mate you are responding to a comment from 2007 2128701630
+12 You're kinda weird my guy grantland23
+12 Only a Rosshole would lump Michigan in with Harvard and Wharton Intern in IB - Gen
+12 And the key point you fail to emphasize is that all the casualties have been over-worked male Analyst and Associates. Principal in IB-M&A
+12 Planning/Strategy meeting 6th floor break room on Wednesday 3/12 at 8:15 pm Associate 2 in IB - Gen
+12 Meanwhile, some other thread in the forum: “Analyst 2 here (just became 3); MM TMTgroup alpha bet
+12 Absolutely not. Even if the company has an analyst program I would steer clear, it’s a good way to shoot yourself in the foot and I’ll try to explain why. Works at Goldman Sachs
+12 I just wrote a large blurb on this thread (https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equity/unpredictability-o…), jjll5203
+12 There is a fantastic post on linkedin from a senior guy a Bain, which I highly recommend reading in full. sg8
+12  Live view of undesirable staffings being handed out in the junior bullpen Analyst 1 in IB - Restr
+12 Personally would want to be partner-track at a fund that's already established and reputable (have track record / pedigree for the fund to fall back on), growing its fund size (more economics to spread around at the top / Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+12 I went through the entire process. The first round is fill-in-the-blank math with the last 15 questions being multiple choice. Optiver this year was 80 questions 8 minutes and all multiple choice. Prospect in S&T - Equities
+12 Will take a Shot at it: hungaroe
+12 “Woke liberals” lol. You’re a grown man, act like it. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+12 Dude stop schizoposting behind all your wso anon accounts and seriously consider getting clinical help GeorgiaTek97
+12 CPI: Analyst 1 in IB - Restr
+12 bruh for the second one you couldn't just roll with it? wasn't even a bad joke and a totally harmless misunderstanding Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+12 Yes TruthersPoker
+12 Ah yes, Banking. Jesus’s favorite industry Anonymous Monkey
+12 It asked me if I could be a vegetable what would I want to be IBankruptmonkey
+12 Associate 3 in PE - LBOs BayesianBets
+12 That is because you’re an SA and have never been in the room when candidates are discussed and hiring decisions are made. VP in PE - LBOs
+12 Being poor sounds awful. Smoke Frog
+12 In the red corner - Bennnnnnnnnnn Chon! aka theeee rareeeeeliquid!!!!!!!!!! Intern in ER
+12 It’s cause that implies the bank encourages that lifestyle, which would look awful from a PR perspective. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+12 ex-Australian banker here bankyyyy777
+12 What's going on this thread? Citi all day. Jefferies people need to relax Intern in IB-M&A
+12 Do you really need fuck you money to let someone subtly know that there are lines they can't cross ... that's a bit sad, no? harveyspankster
+12 did you actually read the article? can you read, generally? the article has multiple headshots of the guy as big as my ipad screen ShooterMcGavin11
+12 Toxic. Avoid. Take a Big Four offer before you go there. Anonymous Monkey
+12 Advising a kid with 100k in the bank and saving up for a down payment to get involved in private equity/credit is fucking crazy work Anonymous Monkey
+12 OP, sorry to hear things aren't going so well. It sounds like you've found yourself in a tough spot. Associate 3 in CorpDev
+12 what are the exit opps from BB? Do you now work at Saks? JimmyDormandy
+12 I actually had an interview for a credit research desk (albeit for an internship) two years ago. I did get asked a lot about bond pricing in addition to accounting. miss-chief
+12 It's crazy to see the number of people on here with a "grass is greener" mentality. My older brother is in SWE @ FAANG, and he strongly regrets not having gone into finance. Intern in IB - Gen
+12 This must be a troll. Where did you come up with the idea that GS Cross Markets is similar to ECM / DCM? And you do know that GS Cross Markets is part of Classic IB at GS and is a coverage group? Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+12 Whether you end up deciding to report to HR or not, please take care of yourself and at least take some medical leave - don't want to end up like that Jefferies associate who died recently. NuclearPenguins
+12 Shoutout Jefferies, they really came up  Prospect in PE - Growth
+12 Career commercial banker here, just take a breath and chill out. Learn everything you can in your current job, master the skills, and enjoy the journey. MidasMulligan
+12 JPM is currently winning in every major area besides exits (and even that is group dependent these days). Intern in IB - Cov
+12 You're cooked, no cap. Chat needs to clip this on skib. Maybe you can rizz up a VP to get that Grimace Shake, but it may be Joever for you. Paul_Owen
+12 Lol my class was similar - just remember, if the average analyst in your class is an A+ analyst, you'd be bottom bucket if you're an A- analyst Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+12 Was let go in Dec 2022 from a MM PE fund ($1-2B fund size) after 3.5 years there.  I've been aiming for a similar sized MM PE fund / slightly larger. VP in PE - LBOs
+12 commenting for visibility Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+12 It's clearly awful that the OP was treated this way, but I think you are painting too broad a brushstroke here: Analyst 1 in HF - RelVal
+12 No please ask questions here. It's an anonymous forum for a reason, and I assume you are an incoming intern or current intern in which instance someone else probably has the exact same question. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+12 God shut up. This IS the exit opp. You don't go into something like this thinking about how it sets you up for what's next. Associate 1 in RE - Other
+12 D&C has had a pretty shitty run for the last decade or more - just check their fund performance. confused_yuppie