+2 i came to hear complain about AI slop posts but glad you all have already done so MakersMark
+2 Honestly, if nobody mentioned it after the meeting, there’s a decent chance it either went unnoticed or just wasn’t important enough to derail the discussion. roverkandy
+2 for NYC summer analyst monkeybanana3
+2 Hey, not really sure as I haven’t started my FT yet either but wanted to let you know that you’re not alone - my dad has dementia, and I’m in a very similar situation with my mom taking on a lot of the responsibility. ConfinedChimp23
+2 appreciate it! nothing too crazy, just standard questions:1) what's timeline on the process? When does stuff open, when should I be networking (if that even matters, etc.) visual_outcome_789
+2 I know this thread is old but am in the same boat. Interned at a top MM (Jeff, HL, etc.) and didn’t get a return offer for bullshit reasons. FT recruiting without the return was a fucking bloodbath. Intern in IB - Cov
+2 Former Ox student - was extremely concerned and literally had the same worries as you, but I can guarantee no one cares about main vs Ox and it's all up to you. N/A in IB-M&A
+2 If this question had been asked 4/5 years ago, I would have said it was a waste of time as it would only cover the basics so you wouldn't be independent enough to assess legal issues. GS under Blankfein
+2 You’re not impartial, you went to Stern lmao. You’re the guy who made the trash vs garbage. You ain’t slick. Associate 2 in PE - Other
+2 Plenty of people move from Boston to NYC after their analyst stint, especially if you’re coming from a solid MM platform. alexthomass
+2 BAN WHARTON SCHOOL FROM WALL STREET Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 Drink, gamble, travel invessttr
+2 okay I'll just shoot myself then Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 Would it not simply depend on the sale value vs. the rental value?  CRE
+2 I think the most important things in order are: bank, school, group (assuming you aren't in a capital markets group), and GPA. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+2 Having firsthand experience at an MSF program mentioned frequently on here, I’d actually beg to differ. Associate 2 in IB-M&A
+2 OP here, would say I did saw people moving from buyside after SA to IBD FT, not sure if they get return offer or not. Prospect in IB - Gen
+2 GS FIG missing pls fix Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 Dang sounds personal. You okay? Works at CBRE
+2 Thanks for your input - I replied to another comment but I ended up going back and we reached a tentative deal with a more creative structure that aligns our incentives better (contingent payment and seller debt). Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 Technology being viable is not the same as the ability to deliver that technology in a cost-effective manner (or, the cost of space compute relative to data center compute). CRESF
+2 Stepstone is known for its low pay, just like all prestigious firms… VP in Private Credit
+2 Historically cooked.  CRE
+2 I hate the fucjing fact that these snt interviews and spds are non technical, had similar experiences last year and I’m from a community college. NFazem
+2 Don’t mind me guys, back to networking NFazem
+2 extremely bad take and top teams using claude across many diff types of workflows HFPM15
+2 noted, thanks bonjourtovorisch
+2 Phenomenal fund in healthcare. Their tech is weak but don't think that actually matters given the state of software and could position them even better. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 send his wife a wine bottle with a card containing the receipt and picture of the bottle on the analysts desk lol Investment Analyst in IB - Gen
+2 In talking with Sponsors, the perspective I've gathered is that JEF is known to be a very hard working bank who will beat up the numbers until they say what you need the numbers to say.  Works at Houlihan Lokey
+2 That’s a reasonable thesis. What it doesn’t address are the software PE portcos that either are disintermediated by AI or had too high of an entry multiple (or both) and can’t exit.  kuf135
+2 Anything and everything, except for sell-side research and opinions. Investment Analyst in HF - EquityHedge
+2 Current analyst here in one of the mentioned groups (HC/Tech/Tech Services). Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 I agree that the truth is probably fuzzier than that but Im quoting from the internal note they sent out. Their official narrative, not mine. There is probably a real reason theyre not saying out loud. Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 CLT timeline Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 I see, I feel like it’s going to be extremely unlikely I get the 5th year deferral. I’m worried of the downside scenario in the situation you describe: Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Thank you for your insight! sabe_2243
+2 Damn imagine if she started this thread to get free publicity… that would be very very well played  Intern in IB - Gen
+2 If you beat Ramzi in ping pong heard you get axed. Is that true? Associate 3 in IB - Gen
+2 Stop being a pu$$y and do it, you got through college just fine. Just buck up. Analyst 1 in IB - Restr
+2 Agree with the above comment. The only clarification I'd add is that deal experience does not mean closed deals (although we all love to close deals). Count WACCula
+2 What about Mesirow? [email protected]
+2 Is there an ex Barclays exemption? Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 go do premed we in a doctor shortage rn Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 they love to increase shareholder value by sending their analysts to the hospital Incoming Analyst in IB - Cov
+2 La Comédie humaine - BalzacA series of 90 short works in the same universe, you can pick and choose which works sound good to you and start off at any point. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Was in the same position. Funnily enough I called up one of my contacts at the bank and they told me to reneg and it’ll be fine lol. Banks will fire you the day before your bonus to screw you over. rockyrates
+2 Where did you hear that from lol. That comment must be from someone at the firm. If you do not quit or get fired by bonus you’ll be lucky with 30% of base bonus. Associate 2 in IB - Gen
+2 rutgers here - i know of 2 Evr, 1 Laz, 1 Cview, 1 moe, 1 PJT, multiple JPM's, multiple GS's and 1 MS this year alone. very surprised, didnt expect us to have heavy hitters like this gothamscalling
+2 Assist. VP in PE - Growth Ozymandia
+2 Agreed. These tactics are a good way for someone to unwillingly get pigeon holed into whatever their current function is.  Ralph Lauren
+2 Smart guys. We almost did something programmatic with them a few years back. They focus solely on structured capital (pref and whole loans). maverick77
+2 Spelling error “believing” — please fix. Bump_monkey
+2 So you're telling me I spent 4 years grinding at target school, networking events, case comps, 3 internships... and this person outsourced their MBA to Fiverr?  Analyst Ficc
+2 Your worries are understandable but overhyped IMO. flipcup
+2 In a sense yes. But some roles in AM still involve for example fixed income products. And there are DCM/ECM roles to look into at banks. If you like equities ER is great. Intern in S&T - Other
+2 Exits are mainly to FIG PE and pay is insane, at least a couple years ago analyst class made in the ballpark of 300K+ Prospect in IB - Gen
+2 bro i used to crank all the time but it's hard when there's shit on the wall, ruins the whole mojo Invalid_CREdentials
+2 Director in RE - Comm himurakent
+2 It's your guys fault. Accelerated timelines and so little offers to go around. In this job market, it's of course going to be everyone out for himself, the applicant included. Prospect in IB - Gen
+2 Gotcha, I think I understand where you're coming from. Investment Analyst in HF - Event
+2 Could be anything (tie-breaker vote, head-to-head against another finalist, final check the box, etc.) but might suggest that a key decision maker didn’t get to meet you and needs to opine. SaaSChimp
+2 Left the GP world at a top 10 PERE firm for a pension fund, and it was the best decision I've ever made. Assist. VP in RE - Comm
+2 These people are tweaking. This is so painfully common, I’ve done it and had people do it to me. Most people love talking about their past employer to vent. [email protected]
+2 no but you have to be sharp. you cant be dumb as rocks because you have to understand the product, just not to the extent traders need to know. no_home_jerome
+2 I’m at another Boston bank and a couple of my friends work there Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 I can answer your questions directly then can give an overview of the different roles in Cap Formation/Fundraising World: (excuse the account title, never post)Your Questions: acre247
+2 Are you saying escp doesn't have a financial markets specialisation? They have one of the best and the placements speak for themselves. Prospect in Acct - Other
+2 Of course the response is anon lmao. Soft times.... Rabbit
+2 prospect here but older friends from uni/college are AN1 and AN2 and they said the following: alexcokke
+2 Del yummyyummy
+2 At a private MF right now (latest fund >$20bn) and echo the above. Everything we take to IC must be 3x MoM or above but that’s questionable more often than not when you actually dig under the hood. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 Just for my understanding, the ABS desk that you are referring to does not do any warehouse lending at all? i.e. Associate 1 in Private Credit
+2 No problem. I’d focus mostly on your school for chats. This depends on how many students go into IB from your school, however. If you have a lot that do, then you’ll have enough kids to fill up your schedule. Intern in IB-M&A
+2 That's not really how it works... overandout
+2 The best course of action is to go have rough sex and do doggystyle. That will naturally deal with all your frustration  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 There's no way anyone can genuinely think Industry is a better show than Succession  Bruvver
+2 This here is why AI will never replace humans ghez14
+2 Great comment and very true. Manager in CorpFin
+2 If you're aiming for "not difficult" 10-12% returns under your "consevative/risk averse" approach, you're simply not aware of how tight the stop losses and volatility constraints are at a MM. MMPM
+2 There is a balance to everything. I'm a white American and have lived and worked in China. While there are great things about their culture, especially around family, there are also drawbacks. kiltedlowlander
+2 Transfer out that’s all I gotta say  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Thanks boib_1! I know they are better programs you're right, I wait their outcomes too. I was just thinking that to lend a job, in the future, like commodity related in Geneva is still better doing this program. Sir IB_7
+2 Is your level basically equal to a VP in PE?By phenomenal WLB what does that translate to in terms of average hours per week?How did you find this opportunity? Thanks for sharing. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+2 I didn't see your comment, but I said the same thing. I've heard others recommend reaching out to people on Linkedin, but I don't get it. Analyst 2 in PE - Other
+2 Really can’t pinpoint, but would do 400, know LBOs well, be ready for a paper LBO also. Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 I played college football before I pursued IB, and recently signed for SA '27, so I hope this helps. dicky
+2 If it’s a minor don’t think it’s going to help that much in terms of resume value. A kid with two good networking calls will erase whatever value that minor adds. If anything, I would minor in cs for the skills. Intern in S&T - Other
+2 Take what you get, the job market is cooked. After a year or 2 im sure you can lateral easily. Incoming Analyst in IB - Gen
+2 Anyone have thoughts on life sciences NYC? Deal flow seems decent per announced transactions, but seem to lean on smaller side Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 Think a lot of these younger UMMs might be underrated relative to career advancement opportunities, as a lot of people seem to look solely at fund size and past exits when evaluating firms. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+2 Yes, LBS/LSE without finance internships already will make it tough to break into London. Top 3 pge/mif is good. Yes ESCP is a bit stronger in finance than Essec, particularly for London since they have a campus there. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Short any random biotech stock with as much leverage as your broker will allow you BillHwang69420
+2 pjt  Associate 2 in IB-M&A
+2 Laz >> BofA  ----------- Crust Magma Mantle ----------- Mizuho (ubs lol) Associate 2 in IB-M&A
+2 First day here? gkk1234
+2 "I recommended that he go to therapy" lmao if I was in his shoes I would avoid you extra after that starbuckssalesdesk
+2 Bump; have heard that this firm is intense and thorough, and that you'll need to be prepared going into meetings. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 I've tested chat, Claude, copilot side-by-side for various tasks - Claude is best (especially for modelling) but copilot has a use case for ppts and Microsoft native files. Investment Analyst in PE - Other
+2 H&F, LGP, Veritas “underrated” 😂😂😂. The question is stupid though, can’t be a UMM/MF and also be underrated Intern in IB - Gen