+2 I started around rates vol, we were a bit different because our desks were generally in rates derivatives and such, so I did rates vol and some other derivative products. usernameladiesman217
+2 I think it's very clunky to ask why from an evolutionary biology standpoint why finance pays well. The labor market just doesn't operate on that level it seems to me. larry david
+2 Somewhat similar boat and level of experience. Only things keeping me around are (i) generally chill hours + culture and (ii) carry is starting to payout (though much much lower than the DAW figures i had in mind). Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+2 okay let me give you a piece of advice then (I'm sure it will fall on deaf ears but w/e) Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+2 Yes, but on the equities side usually. Generally people hire out of IB for modelling skills, so the specific team is irrelevant. Analyst 1 in HF - EquityHedge
+2 Bought a building materials company 2 years ago.. 2m EBITDA. The search fund model is a waste of time IMO. You are better off operating as an independent sponsor. Principal in PE - Other
+2 Real Gs move in silence like lasagna  PrivateTechquity 🚀🚀🚀
+2 Can’t find anything about them aside from the website. No LinkedIn, no team page. Probably a new resume collection method by Pinpoint Partners Amazon Prime
+2 Anyways back to the initial point - I think all of these besides maybe CLO structuring should be achievable, with varying ease. Associate 1 in PE - Other
+2 I used to spend 5-10 minutes on every email I sent out with personalized connections and everything. Guess what, out of 100 emails, I probably got 3 replies. Prospect in IB - Gen
+2 Indian/chinese/middle eastern mid level and MDs treat us like slaves and don’t like that we have freedom in this country  Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+2 Clearlake is most relevant and talked about as people marvel at how they’re still in business and were able to raise a fund. That should tell you everything you need to know. Principal in PE - LBOs
+2 How did you go about updating your long term plans once you reached the milestone? At a similar point in my own career and my VP is asking me to map out the future of our group... rubiomn9
+2 The funny thing is that banks don't want complete hardos though (or at least some banks don't, again to go full circle back to OPs original point).  Deal Team Six
+2 what is your cup size? Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 anonymous2240
+2 They’re a newer group after splitting from Consumer (formerly CRB), and from what I’ve heard the transition hasn’t been perfectly smooth culture/workflow-wise — others can chime in. Chimp444
+2 it's always been competitive (I was in college in the mid/late 2000s)... the biggest difference is that timing has become much earlier in terms of recruitment overall (from internships to FT IB to PE). sick_willy
+2 Honestly that reading list doesn’t sound too bad. At least it seems highly relevant to what your day-to-day will look like. Not all of us were so lucky. VP in PE - LBOs
+2 I will never understand why it’s so hard for some people to grasp the simple concept of sacrificing now to win at life later. crazylifechoices
+2 Process management is a coordination problem and AI becomes less relevant. firms I've seen do this somewhat well use something simple like monday or asana with lightweight automation on top. Dr.Leigh
+2 I also did not get a proper IB SA offer, but managed to get an FT offer in Ldn. FT is a crapshoot and the stars had to align for me to get the offer I did. Had I not got it, I would have been screwed.  professional.form.filler
+2 actually I do like to see poorly cropped screenshots of popular WSO threads to see if the funny comments I made on anon show up anonf0fty
+2 i go to Duke, its pretty obvious that u go to Duke or maybe northwestern based on this post but u should take it down before the wharton columbia and uchicago monkey shit brigade comes in. Intern in IB-M&A
+2 Experiencing the same issues here. Broadly targeting opportunistic credit and special situations investing. Feedback I have gotten has mainly been that they aren’t hiring or funds want prior buyside experience. Analyst 2 in IB - Restr
+2 JP Natural Resources had an exit to Baly. In fact people exit from all kinds of industry teams to HFs.BTW your student investment fund is probably bullshit and you should not base your career plans on that Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 well you won't be doing IB in Poland that's for sure, attitude like that is why many have a terrible perception of EE (i'm from there myself and we need to purge ungrateful attitude towards people / countries that provide Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+2 Even the "business" advice sold to young people online, like dropshipping or AI automation, is mostly a scam where the only ones getting rich are the people selling the courses. nutmegger189
+2 $110k base should tell you everything you need to know about them… Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+2 If you do this you should disclose this to your employer even if it is unpaid because investment banking is a regulated and licensed activity. Associate 3 in HF - Other
+2 You must be French? Escp don't take anglophones usually for the MiF.  Associate 1 in VC
+2 Where can I try your chicken? pbandjpartners
+2 VP here (been doing this since I graduated). I’m just here to point out that, while it may be something you’re doing wrong, it’s also very likely that everyone is just getting crushed by Q4 pitches and deadlines. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Hochul and Lieber are between a rock and a hard place. It’s not entirely their fault that the union has kept asking for large raises and benefits packages the past several decades. Irehdna
+2 Deloitte M&A not a bad shout Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 homie told chatgpt to list 50 pe firms Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+2 why would they purposely only give 1 return each summer? if both are good they shouldn't have to compete Intern in IB-M&A
+2 Yup - my VPs in banking were mostly idiots. Good opportunity to practice navigating politics VP in PE - Other
+2 Was hating a little  Analyst 1 in HF - EquityHedge
+2 I’ve never bought a small business myself but I’ve helped friends and family look into a few, and it’s always a rollercoaster digging through their financials. khan.mmua
+2 “Immortal Life: A Soon To Be True Story” by Stanley Bing.  It’s a sci-fi story written in 2017 by a CBS executive and narrated by him in the audiobook. odog @digitalimmortality.com
+2 Had a friend who worked there seeking a WLB improvement vs. his role as an IB associate. His life didn't get more manageable, and his comp got worse - he didn't stay.  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+2 If you can handle this much active development personally meanwhile also source deals, do you really need this regional office? Ozymandia
+2 One thing a club at my old college would do was create a profile of a company with the name blurred out. usernameladiesman217
+2 I got connected through friend, so I set it up with him over imessage, once again it was very informal. Thats also why i listed it as an apprenticeship, although it was almost like a class if anything. jpym391340978
+2 Non-Tier 1 exits are still strong — just more variance and a less concentrated MF funnel. Chimp444
+2 UMM guarantee is not possible. There are multiples more IB analysts at supposed top groups vs. total seats at UMM/MF PE. Top analyst at worse coverage group at JPM exits to UMM/MF and median at top groups exit to a MM. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 I’m sorry for your loss (of BB status) Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Incoming analyst so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I have spent summers in groups known to be particularly political, so I understand how and why you feel the way you do. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Interns without a job rubbing it in on people with jobs is crazy. There's a bunch of interns at Barclays and it's pretty relevant regardless.  Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+2 It’s really a shame that a bank with this strong of a  brand and deal flow pays this badly. It’s puzzling how they are choosing to run their investment bank.  RBOB_squarepants
+2 I'm going to be frank with you. It's not really going to make much difference. If you get good grades and pass the interviews you will get a job. Principal in HF - Other
+2 Becoming a modern day Diogenes the Cynic could also be in the cards, Guy seemed pretty happy asdf1248
+2 The fact you're not willing to concede that someone who makes e.g. nutmegger189
+2 tbh it is very cute how Rogo team keeps posting these thinking it is good marketing and people just say the product is retarded. good work!!!!! Works at Citadel Investment Group
+2 Much closer to #26 than #6!  Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+2 As subjects individually they're easy but there were 9 subjects (not counting languages) + group coursework for each so it's still a lot of content... Revama69
+2 Do you "think less of me" boomer? Lol Associate 1 in RE - Comm
+2 If you didn’t use a LLM to write that response, you’ve been using one so often that your natural writing sounds generated. That is a not a compliment.  CRE
+2 Have a friend there; sweaty af, but that's par for the course given the type of investing. Generally the more value-nvesting oriented the firm is, the more sweaty it is. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 You're just glossing over my feedback, go for it if you want to champ! Intern in IB - Cov
+2 touch grass lmao Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+2 UChicago has the 5th most amount of analysts at banks and that's compared to both public and private firms. All 3 schools are great and realistically, you should pick whichever one you connect with the most. Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 Harvard AB, Oxford BA Pro Veritate
+2 This is a really easy decision. UChicago has the 5th most amount of banking analysts across any school (public or private) which is crazy given it's small student body size. Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 100bps compression per year is my go to when I wanna show reeaaalll alpha. palm_beach_ll
+2 SunTzu CRE
+2 A lot of this is overblown but I have some thoughts about Excel. You think AI will affect Excel tools? Associate 3 in HF - Other
+2 Stuff like how to tie a bow tie. How to wear a tux in general. All of the references to east coast things like what towns are known for what. Who certain people are. local_finance_bro
+2 reading this after seeing the 2025 analyst bonuses is odd, seeing 75/80k for an1 top Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Have been thinking about pivoting to infra a lot recently. “core” infra investing roles makes sense to me coming from REPE.. REmonkey13
+2 yes you can reach HF w/o IB - source: i did it. you have to love the game. research stocks. put risk on. have a thesis and talk to ppl about it.  shortseller
+2 Agreed. I’m leaving and honestly have no hate towards the bank, but you can’t pay me sub 100k bonus. Is what it is Works at Bank of America Merrill Lynch
+2 This resonates, especially the part regarding financial firms being leaner, hiring less, and delivering more. But I'd like to offer a counterpoint and get your perspective. littlebluemonkey
+2 delete franker014124
+2 I can sorta answer this: Analyst 1 in Consulting
+2 It’s hard to say  How much brand credibility do you have today? Did you do a top undergrad or mba?  What are you prospects outside the firm? How old are you?  WestCoastChimp4521
+2 my friend with big 4 audit got it so prob skill diff Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Contrary to popular belief, you do not choose the HF life, the HF life chooses you Hope that helps  Monkey.D.
+2 There is no real reason to leave sponsors; they work 50 hours a week for the same pay as other investment bankers. It's a great seat to earn a lot of money with good WLB and decent people. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Just leave. No job is worth that. The only question is, do you quit right away, or try to line something else up first? TheFunkyMunky
+2 You think our economic growth is coming from a program that’s abused to import Indian males? lol  Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+2 Good group although highly political - huge variance in outcomes based on how people play politics  Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+2 They don’t do shit. Sponsors get to take credit for a lot of deals despite their minimal contributions. Comp to hours worked is quite good. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Why not read literary classics? There’s a reason that these books are still popular centuries after they went into print. guyfromct
+2 Most of people after PIPE / PEG go to PE/VC/M&A/SWF Type of Funds. It’s very common, most of funds would accept consultants, too. Felixfab
+2 Any info on JPM SF & MS SF (FSG/HC/IND)? Intern in IB - Cov
+2 You have my respect for making that leap. Definitely a risk that most people wouldn’t take, but I bet it’s an incredible learning opportunity as a businessperson to actually fully run a business yourself TheFunkyMunky
+2 What country are you in now and what country/countries do you want to learn about? Moving is probably your best option given RE is fairly localized. CRE Credit
+2 If you’re 10 months in and with an extra 2 you’d have your bonus maybe they’d help you out or tell you to quit later. In your situation, not so sure. VP in PE - LBOs
+2 Clear case of just coast until you get RIF’d or want to quit…who knows what the BB group is really like. Stay Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 All they mostly do is a logo splash of potential buyers, often recycled with minor deviations Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+2 Please feel free to correct me then? Just saying I'm correct with absolutely no elaboration is not helpful? Associate 1 in AM - Other
+2 Hey! I can share a few candid and actionable thoughts below: subscriptionfinance
+2 do not ask this. you will look DUMB as fuck bc you are just a kid.  simplifiedclap
+2 "UHNW daddy’s money/successful entrepreneur girl that has more money than me but is less attractive than me" "my physique is pretty much flawless" Capital of Structure
+2 I swear I tagged the team about this a year ago and they were like "oh yeah, that's an easy fix. we'll get it done."  CRE
+2 DA Davidson has a direct path to lateraling to other banks. They are the definition of LMM  overlord481216
+2 The energy‑independence claim doesn’t line up with how the U.S. energy system actually works. Jonathan Wick
+2 Bocconi is such a great target school. As someone at one of the largest bb in the world a lot of my colleagues are from there and it is looked at very highly. WSoMonkey93