+2 Shrewd observations, and I agree wholeheartedly. Analyst 1 in PE - Other
+2 Well part of the reason I wrote this is because of the top thread in this forum that had people claiming a lack of quality candidates and that the companies that are hiring what plug and play hires. Associate 1 in RE - Comm
+2 Insoles are cope, you would have to wear them literally all the time, if anyone ever notices that you wear insoles, its over. Nothing cringier than a short guy that cant accept the fact that he is short. Eman_Kant
+2 Prospect in IB - CovEric Tokat is Turkish. Very different and culture that is much better than any other coming in nowadays. Teller in IB - Cov
+2 In the idiot pyramid:  An_3
+2 SSE Intern in IB-M&A
+2 Join the BI chatrooms and shitpost all day  Principal in HF - Event
+2 3G, whatever happened there  Prospect in IB - Gen
+2 Lock in for off cycle recruiting ik someone go got moelis in January for this summer Intern in IB-M&A
+2 Hec and escp are top targets along with polytechnique.  Essec edhec sciences po mid tier still.  Brag680
+2 Doing good work is way more important than “being social” lol. For the analysts who suck all the VP’s balls and try to get noticed, if u suck at the job, that’s what matters. Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+2 Just do it. You’ll be fine. Will be an adjustment but so is any new job. There’s no magical thing about a top 3 BB. ky9xnsz
+2 Bingo Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Goldman in NYC is not nice... JPM much better Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 This is something I’m struggling with currently. At a point now that it is hard to hide the fact that I have some money. TackoDonkey
+2 It’s a marginal comment. Higher base rates just make credit more attractive. MMs have lots of teams. The MMs goal is to generate like 10% net returns per year for their investors. Hags28
+2 Retail/memes has definitely changed shorting in the US. Asia markets always had a bit of that dynamic, but had to pay attention to it a lot. hfanalyst__
+2 But I would push back on this because my understanding is that total return/distressed/opportunistic credit (wtv definition you want to use -  which is my assumption for what the newer credit pods at MM's are doing) w rowan_tepper
+2 A few a nuanced observations (more Exit focused and tailored towards Front Office IB roles in India): klpd_klpd
+2 Different market sizes and economics. I think the U.S. pays more for any job across the board.  FlyingFox1
+2 Thanks for speaking highly of us Canadians.  Green Zeus
+2 Thank you all for the comments. Very helpful and appreciate it. To answer few of your comment: Justman
+2 Jefferies most represented schools (per Linkedin): Cornell, UVA, Columbia, NYU Baird  most represented schools (per Linkedin): Wisconsin, Maquette, other UW campuses, Kentucky Intern in IB - Gen
+2 Stern is gonna put you in a good spot. The only thing maybe slightly against you is it seems like ppl recruiting for IB from here are growing each year. usc/ucla seem to be getting stronger in recruiting, esp in LA. Intern in IB - Gen
+2 It’s the sellers being unrealistic. Even in the 2010s you still had significantly positive leverage. larry david
+2 There are some stories that could make sense (maybe there were some lessons learned regarding structure, industry, etc. NuclearPenguins
+2 Everything above spot on. brosephstalin
+2 If you’re a solid 4 Asian girl or higher the director will cheat on his wife with you [email protected]
+2 Good on you for being self-aware. Business School in CorpStrat
+2 Williams is an incredible school - has a much higher per capita elite placement into jobs and graduate schools that Cornell, has a much more involved alumni network per capita, has much higher resources per capita, and the kludgyrex
+2 The Fatal Attraction nature of these UBS posts is hysterical. The girl broke up w you and you will go to your grave with seething anger.  splitaces
+2 Think you need to be a little more realistic about what your options are here. Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+2 Dartmouth but make sure he gets into the right fraternities & clubs, as some dartmouth alumni recruit directly from their fraternities from what I've heard. Would appreciate some fellow monkeys to give me feedback Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 May I ask if you have/had any hf exp? While I hope what you said is true, my personal feeling is the same with the other comment. Pedigree is so helpful it's like a 99 points bonus to a 100 score exam. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Target for Left Lane associates who do OCR with the crackheads at Yonge Dundas (don’t cancel me) Intern in S&T - FI
+2 Meal wasn’t fake, they just did a 180 Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 I was solving for maximal learning/growth and the right problem sets that fit my learning style.  Determined
+2 Spreadsheet Sasquatch: In your opinion is it better to work at a fund or trading house? Thanks for answering so many questions!  hbwesttoeast
+2 Not common but it does happen.  You for sure know enough about a product to trade it after having banked it for a couple of years, but that does not mean you would be a personality fit for trading. Director in S&T - FI
+2 Thanks so much for the detailed reply – really appreciate you taking the time, especially on mobile. Super helpful reality check and gives me a much clearer picture. Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+2 being jewish Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 Imagine trying to be an optimist while living in Toronto Associate 1 in CorpFin
+2 Sounds like a plan to me. Maybe consider serial acquirers/roll upa are an entry point? Eg. Constellation Group. They are almost always expanding and have open roles globally. CCE
+2 Congrats on Greenhill 21739486019udwqgo
+2 Dealogic league tables have had Citi ahead of BofA in M&A deal value in recent years 2024, 2022 and 2021 - so by that logic, surely Citi is the more consistent performer? VP in IB - Cov
+2 Is it the LPs that are unrealistic or the sellers? Assist. VP in RE - Comm
+2 This comment is spot on - the industry can be fucked up and cultural issues can be masqueraded as performance. First_Lien_Larry
+2 Both are non targets. Aim for HEC or LBS if you can boib_1
+2 No I'm talking about M&A experience like you'd get in a coverage or M&A group - not including setting up financing on deal, but actually owning M&A models. Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+2 Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Archibald Picklebriar III
+2 My fund is not in Haveli. From what I've heard, I generally agree with the below thread. You will get worked, but feels like the benefits of old school PE still exit here. Associate 1 in AM - Other
+2 I have heard of some MM and LMM associates who have better WLB than their banking stints tbf from my classs, espeically those outside the major cities. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 AnnonymousMonkey
+2 I'm a former PE bro turned AI bro and just want to provide the data point that Freight Forwarding is one of the places where AI is actually working, full stop, some serious automation happening in certain places. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 AS1 Baird Coverage Base: $200 Bonus: $160 TC: $360 TB  IlliquidCapInjection
+2 Performance is very political / not merit based until MD. The only people who truly make a difference to a bank’s bottom line are the top ~5% of MDs who originate real deals.  RBOB_squarepants
+2 You strike me as the kind of kid who breaks the coffee machine at the office because they couldn’t figure out how to use it on their own Prospect in IB - Cov
+2 Sounds like PWP - German bank Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 the amount of white "hispanic" guys I see in these programs is ridiculous lol Prospect in IB - Cov
+2 Better camaraderie in banking, the culture of PE is more cutthroat (would say the vast majority of PE professionals would agree). asdf1248
+2 Dyal analysts clear 300-350k. Is Q really above that? Associate Director in IB-M&A
+2 Are you also looking for MFs or choosing UMMs by choice? Feel like HH outreach to top candidates are for MF and top UMM. Same candidates getting KKR, APO, CD&R will be getting GTCR, Veritas Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Everything that happened post 2023 is a shame. CS really ruined everything. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Money means a tremendous amount when you don't have it. Welcome to the diminishing utility of capital. earthwalker7
+2 At the end of the day, a job is just a paycheck to fund the things that actually matter, like family and peace of mind. Glad to see someone calling out the "prestige-whoring" for what it is. elsizinie939
+2 I mean like anything, it's multiple factors: Valuations are still, for the most part, below replacement value, demand is continuing to grow with an aging population, and operators are pushing rent growth closer to 4-5% wit wallherder
+2 After 2 years in any sort of investing role, practically the only thing you will be judged on is the quality of your pitches and discussion of work previously performed. Benson Says
+2 The granularity is no joke.  A lot of those models especially like regulated utilities start blurring the lines between a spreadsheet and software and you need macros to even interact with it etc.  Hang in VP in PE - LBOs
+2 All of this and then please also read fiction. Non-fiction only readers are painfully dull people.  CRE
+2 Based on the table looks like Stifel has more US M&A than UBS Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+2 would say that bofa m&a will probably set you up better for credit roles than PSI if you want to do anything sub-IG. Analyst 2 in Private Credit
+2 but semi-target background, yes, had a no name finance internship on my resume. 5 interviewers in sd, 2 rounds before that. Honestly, was more technical than I was expecting, case+timed model. Did not get offer. gummywummy3322
+2 Now you still don't have an expert on the subject. You just hope the slop you received was correct slop and not incorrect slop.  IsItREPE
+2 Bump FlamingApe
+2 It won't make an impact, but worth addressing it anyway. I've had non-severe but persistent acne my whole teenage / adult life and doing a second accutane course in my mid-30s. Works at Other
+2 I know which is better in terms of Uni...but I'm asking in terms of which of the different degrees to choose at the 2 Unis, taking into account whether the more relevant course makes a difference or not . Financebro89
+2 Getting into, as in networking as a prereq to get accepted? No, can't say I've heard of that. Probably just speaking with the school's representatives of the program is about as much you can do. Associate 2 in AM - Other
+2 How did your personal life suffer? Intern in IB - Gen
+2 I haven’t seen this play out personally but don’t feel like it would be feasible — there’s so many more decent candidates than seats, what would be the incentive for a HH / firm to deal with the headache here as opposed to Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 I was at jp this summer and heard it first hand.. also see from another thread re. levfin: Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 For rich kids who want to party in London. Might only be useful if you are considering an MSc at LSE which may help your application designa888
+2 I work at a high profile GP. Can 100% confirm this. Associate 3 in RE - Comm
+2 EVR/PJT > Laz/Roths in EMEA specially when talking about exits, waiting for Laz/Roths incoming interns to MS Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Bro ur an incoming intern and u already think u want to stay? Just wait til ur actually on the desk you’ll prob change ur mind Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Try 50 or 100… Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 hehe genius leadership they got over there. Works at Bank of New York Mellon
+2 Heard putting it all on black solves this problem ImagineSisyphusHappy
+2 I work at a firm where repeat gender discrimination and harassment offenders are just swept under the roof like nothing happened. What do you plan to do? Sue?  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 Generally agree.  Just speaking for my industry (HC)  - the firms doing divestitures / spinoffs are far less acquisitive - and VC strategy is all over the map. Paul_Allen_III
+2 dyal #1 estrangedpanda
+2 Congrats on UBS!  Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+2 currently a rx analyst- what is your best advice on navigating recruiting and finding a seat like yours? I feel like part of the fight is 1. Analyst 3+ in IB - Gen
+2 130 hours is NOT normal Anonymous Monkey
+2 What’s the source? Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 AnnonymousMonkey
+2 First, you gotta make sure the guy likes you. If someone likes you, they'll go to bat for you.  usernameladiesman217
+2 I know a senior person who works there who really likes it. Smart people, good culture, interesting work. They've evolved meaningfully from being a traditional CTA (which CTA hasn't). Burke
+2 Ironically, by most metrics, we live in a much safer time than when millennials and Gen X were growing up. Milk Carton kids aren't a thing anymore. Substack_Guy
+2 I do think the exposure is good experience, although I'd temper that for the Big 4 given the necessity of studying for the ACA and the relatively thick hierarchy vs other firms bobmarley22
+2 The short answer is no. At least in my office, even if you come in as an associate, you’re going to have to do some analyst work. Investment Analyst in RE - Comm