+2 A lot of F500 have good FLDPs, Exxon and Chevron come to mind if you like Houston. Manager in CorpStrat
+2 You hit the nail on the head there dude. As someone who shares a similar background, OP (SG military), and just got admitted to CC, I can definitely agree with this commenter’s suggestion to apply to GS. CentralizedDoofus222
+2 Because they had good exits, the group itself isn't that sweaty – good M&A groups all have high turnover fake_human
+2 Have friends at a few zombie funds; and the story is almost always 2 terrible funds even if those funds had been growing steadily in the past. Just like everything though, going to be context dependent. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 This is pure art. You just captured the exact mix of ego, irony, and tragedy that defines finance culture. It’s pretentious, hilarious, and somehow beautiful at the same time. elsizinie939
+2 Depends a lot on where you’re targeting. Kevin W.
+2 With larger banks (I personally know of one involving a firm not even as large or gilded as JPM), I've heard of even analysts exaggerating things to get a low hundred k payout to shut up about their boss swearing at them. 1AB
+2 agreed.  sick_willy
+2 It’s absolutely fine to apply now even if you only graduate in December, just make sure you clearly state your graduation date and availability (e.g., early 2027) in your CV and applications. Kevin W.
+2 Do you have a single shred of evidence to support this assertion, or are you just talking out of your ass? Ozymandia
+2 re: placements and exits. Just pound for pound, OAF current committee has zero buyside placements, which is especially strange given they’re buyside only. Dreamflower56
+2 I would think you're either a complete newbie (which I expect after your first paycheck to change it) or you're socially autistic and can't see how people dress around you.  GS under Blankfein
+2 attempting_doingmybestLol. Elitist enough for banking, would do that RestIess
+2 The advice that I would give is don't get too down that you're underwriting a lot off deals and not doing many. That's the name of the game right now. mahmood.farhan
+2 How/why would someone studying business or finance in college end up in a technical role like one at anthropic Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Aim for FLDP programs. F500 offerings are quite competitive, good salary, and good wlb relative to IB  Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 I'm out. Off to do something easier. This job is so interesting but it's killing me. I wish it didn't take me 8 years to figure that out. VP in ER
+2 Different industry and pre zoom. Flew in to speak with senior bank leadership (regional bank) about installing our investment management offering. They reached out to us and invited me to speak with their Head of X. rickle
+2 Thanks to everyone for their replies. Frankly i’ve found taking the initiative to understand this over the last 12 months has set me apart from other colleagues at the same experience level. DiversifyYoBondsMF
+2 If you're really certain you want to do high finance, idk why you're only considering transferring to GT. Presumably you're an in state kid ergo hope/zell = uga/gt free and everywhere else costs money. Intern in IB - Cov
+2 Not a doomer, but I can’t get this out of my mind. It’ll randomly pop in during bouts of existential dread on late night Ubers. Larry Lamda
+2 Given the potential for Gen AI to completely disrupt the software space, I think any of these firms is high risk from a career standpoint.  Managing Director in HF - Other
+2 Finding people who share a hobby has helped me stay dedicated. Greenspan's Panties
+2 Just put the fries in the bag Earnout33
+2 Prospect in IB-M&A cranh82
+2 Why I liked GEHC is because they are already a leader in hardware and have the established sales channels.  And then they are optimizing the AI/software. odog @digitalimmortality.com
+2 CoinEnjoyer Ozymandia
+2 Del Analyst 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 Eh, some things don't need sequels.  CRE
+2 With all due respect, I think it's different for analysts vs PMs.  Investment Analyst in S&T - Other
+2 You have options. Get a masters from a top school, go FP&A and lateral, MBA route. At 21, I didn’t have an internship at all. At 24 I’m at a MM bank in a Credit LevFin role. Take a step back, go on a walk. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 No, my old PM gave me a reference and thus, BD had the higher ground since I was out of a job. Yes the offer was pulled for that team and there was no room on the other pods from what I was told. Investment Analyst in S&T - Other
+2 I'm now going to rest up before anything. I didn't mention this in the original post. I was actually in a situation last year where I accepted an offer and the PM left before I started. Investment Analyst in S&T - Other
+2 Based on the most helpful WSO content, if you're looking for a 9-5 finance job that aligns with your interests while maintaining a balanced lifestyle, here are some solid options: WSO Monkey Bot
+2 It's not you. This is everyone and everywhere right now. The market sucks and company cultures suck more.  CRE
+2 This already seems 10x more accurate than that PeakFrameworks analysis a while ago Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 This is a declining industry on the wrong side of change that is perfectly competitive where incumbents have almost no moat. Works at Citadel Investment Group
+2 Recruiting success is not correlated with job success. Lots of people do 3rd years in IB to continue recruiting and eventually break into PE. Your situation is not uncommon.  Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+2 it is do-able. However, a big hurdle will be leaving IB as a VP2 or VP3 at the age of 30 to “retire”. VP in IB - Cov
+2 Do you work with bankers or have more senior colleagues who can refer you to bankers? Direct references from close connections will be your best bet. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+2 Few, if any, IR Associates get any real carry allocation though you might get a few bps if you’re at a smaller firm that wants to give you more upside vs higher cash compensation (same thought process for the investment si IRR-Responsible IR
+2 It's a common misconception tbh. Very different spaces, biotech being the much harder space to become an expert in. I've gone to conferences where they've had a combination of both when it came to speakers and panels. Business School in CorpStrat
+2 getting into IB is definitely doable at Wisconsin. while it’s not a target, it has a strong wall street presence and alumni who are super involved. xyz.oop5892
+2 yes absolutely yes. there was one offer at a pod that was vetoed by the coach. Intern in HF - EquityHedge
+2 ioncewenttoschool Ozymandia
+2 Only “Old Stock” Canadians and their DEI Beckies thrive here. Rest of us are here just to make up the numbers and god forbid if we are ambitious. If slavery is what is destined at least can wish for wealthier pay masters. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 For IB, unless you want to be on the West Coast, Northwestern is the better option.  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 You already made H1-B tough but you can’t touch TN. It’s based on a trade agreement and uncapped. Now go cry.  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Bank: Lazard Dinner / meal policy: $40 after 6pm weekdays, $70 on weekends Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+2 Lazard is paradise monopolyman101
+2 S+++: any lacrosse/hockey team at a target Intern in Consulting
+2 some representation at JPMorgan I believe, because JP loves their Europeans. Basically no one anywhere else. Essaye d’intégrer Bocconi plutôt  alexcokke
+2 This is an AI comment. lol, well played. SOFRsoGood
+2 another shameless recruiterbase shill Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 TN has always been a loophole and economist title is straight up a lie. Analyst 1 in PE - Other
+2 Clearly rage bait and not taking advice from a "banker" unable to spell ladder — pls fix. Thx.  Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+2 AND THE VIRGIN OF THE YEAR AWARD GOES TO  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Those reports are garbage for the most part. MMPM
+2 I disagree with everyone and think you should take the JP offer, especially if they will let you intern with the ABL team. Smoke Frog
+2 Once again I arrive to impart wisdom to you kids. “You know the guy from pretty woman? I do that” You’re welcome SOFRsoGood
+2 Great, how do you feel your health, fitness, and appearance have changed since you started the job? Analyst 1 in Consulting
+2 Any update on AC for IBD? Intern in IB - Gen
+2 Follow, poet, follow rightTo the bottom of the night,With your unconstraining voiceStill persuade us to rejoice; 2346mk
+2 MBB really wins in my eyes. Downside is lower pay. The weekends are yours, you can do an externship or transfer to an office abroad for 6 months. Analyst 3+ in IB-M&A
+2 They seem like such hardo losers. Their videos almost seem cartoonish and as if they have almost no level of self-awareness.  DAFA
+2 just going to leave this here dittochu_ on X: "Manhattan is a beautiful prison" / X Amano
+2 In 2 years, gained like 20 pounds of fat and lost ~10% of my muscle (would’ve been worse had I not bought adjustable dumbbell set for home). Intern in IB - Gen
+2 Stern over brown isn’t unheard of ngl, not saying it’s the right choice though Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+2 Just wait until the first iPad babies start hitting the desk. Western civilization sure was nice while it lasted, boys. VP in PE - LBOs
+2 Yeah I meant to comment that I don’t think Hg is a particular WSO glazing situation but a genuinely coveted group for tech PE, esp since they’re one of the few $10B+ software funds in NYC. Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+2 I don’t really see it as that surprising… getting top seats requires a good amount of grinding and a good amount of talent… broadly the Michigan/UVA are probably a little short on talent compared to NYU/Georgetown and I ca Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+2 Amazing, thanks for the thorough response. Very happy for you! hedgehog9
+2 So basically uni is only a tool to get interviews? For the most part, yes. Once you have the interview, it's on you to perform.  terrencetao__
+2 Echo other poster that you’re a better fit for MBB than IB based on what you wrote George Orwell
+2 Hi Mate,  Thanks for taking the time to put yourself out onto the forum and offer up time out your likely hectic schedule to answer questions that students based in Australia have.  gung
+2 exactly the type of stuff you'd hear from a crusty nerd at uc backup Prospect in Consulting
+2 That’s an incredible write-up — honestly one of the most grounded and brutally real takes on PE I’ve seen. The points on sponsorship, communication, and not over-identifying with the job really hit hard. andrevc
+2 Out of interest, did you get into the EB through a spring week? terrencetao__
+2 You’ve got a strong foundation and a clear sense of what drives you. andrevc
+2 That really sucks — I’m sorry you’re going through that. Unfortunately, these situations happen more than they should, especially with unclear work authorization requirements. andrevc
+2 Go to ASU, get a high gpa and transfer for your sophomore year. Intern in IB - Gen
+2 With your background, you’ve got a solid shot — you just need to show you actually care about markets. Highlight any relevant analysis, modeling, or problem-solving from your current role. andrevc
+2 I wouldn’t get too excited. ICADE is absolutely a non-target in London, I’ve never seen any such placements except those 4 at JPM. That’s FOUR people. alexcokke
+2 You'd like consulting more. I interned in MBB but had BB offers/many close friends at BBs. Analyst 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 Merge with Cantor. #1 in crime league tables Leverage Hero
+2 This. It's not like you're going to talk your way into a position at one of these. If BD at Citadel introduces you to a team, you can ask about track and longevity, and see whether you like what you hear. MMPM
+2 I think its a tricky subject RestIess
+2 No, this is just assuming first full-year compensation, not with multiple YOE. IRR-Responsible IR
+2 I get it, it's rough. Personally feels like the current wave of AI is not going to lead to superintelligence (i.e. making all human jobs obsolete) but feels like a headwind to white collar worker growth hedgehog9
+2 Congrats on brown! Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+2 They’re pussies. People on this website say lame shit they’d be embarrassed to say in public because they’d be hit in the mouth for it. CRE
+2 Rumor is that very few people showed up to their AGM this year. Not a firm that will last long and I'd steer very, very clear.  Moonshallow
+2 NASA's lead X-59 test pilot Nils Larson was at the controls in the single-crew cockpit for the flight, Roussel said. RestIess
+2 first of all, I have a frozen peak account with my main deck being made of level 8’s and whatnot. Levels don’t matter as much as the deck does. RestIess
+2 if you want to work in London, Oxbridge/LSE > Bocconi > Icade  GS under Blankfein
+2 Paid for by whom? I don't understand the confusion around this. A coffee shop carries commercial insurance. A trucking company carries commercial insurance. GoingGoingCaught
+2 Brokers run their own practice. That in itself makes them an entrepreneur. Sure - some brokers provide corporate services like assistance with marketing - but many brokers have to pay for those services. pudding
+2 Depends on the bank but a lot of banks have shifted to 2.5 - 3 years for ANL and at least 3 years for ASO. There's a chance you won't be a VP by the time 6 years roll around. Would haircut expected comp. MMM6969
+2 They are struggling to fundraise, have only done a handful of deals in the last few years, never a good sign. They have a wierd model with investment professionals and advisors. VP in PE - Other
+2 MJ retired? RestIess