+2 I wouldn't consider WF a MM bank anymore nor do I think the majority of people. anonymous_monkey67
+2 readthe10kCongrats on the move. Questions for you -  mw13
+2 I understand that the debate does not exist most of the time in DL and there is much more of a focus on deploying just to maintain a sponsor relationship, which can lead to sloppy underwriting (very similar dynamics to BSL Intern in IB - Gen
+2 Feel like the above comment is a bit of a doomsday scare tactic. Most firms will comfortably be above 60% return offer rates. Prospect in IB - Gen
+2 Very well written — reads a bit like Matt Levine’s Money Stuff. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 worked there Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 I'm a developer for a REIT in a HCOL market - same title and YOE and my comp is basically the same. For reference, I'm #2 in the office behind the regional lead. Developer in RE - Res
+2 I am on the board of one of the economic development entities for my city. This is a glorified way of saying, in addition to my own real estate investing, I have significant insight into real estate market for a t-3 city. jl12
+2 It’s no secret that AI can go off on a tangent, and its systems are only as good as how it is programmed. H13x
+2 1) Apollo doesn’t have an undergrad program for flagship PE, only FIG PE, which isn’t comparable to NAPE/BCP/KKR APE. Warburg should be the 4th MF here. Intern in IB - Restr
+2 Add MLP and BAM to this list? Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Devils AdvocateThis place has consistently bad takes on politics . financeabc
+2 Addinator lerga
+2 One of the stronger boutiques / mm shops in Chicago. I know their recruiting process is tough, since it's pretty small you need to know someone and difficulty depends on the day. beast_at_excel_22
+2 Look idk who hasnt told you. But you dont gotta ask youll join which ever one accepts. These clubs at columbia are very hard to get into. nachocheese
+2 LBS has the strongest career center. They do a lot for students like CV review from MBA students in the industry you are applying to. Chumpchump
+2 Anything on WCAS or Nordic? Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 So your bank is shutting down and you want them to not only give you a guaranteed year end bonus that you would not otherwise get, plus have them also match phantom deferred comp that you don’t have. Smoke Frog
+2 Full Disclosure: I work for Planr, but since we're in this space figured I'd offer a perspective. adam.oflynn_1
+2 there was this one dude who had a funny little brainteaser at the bottom of his email.my assoc got frustrated he couldnt solve it and blacklisted the dude  anonf0fty
+2 Has to be some level of corruption involved  Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+2 There’s less overlap than you think between the two strategies. In CLO you are doing less homework on each name and only evaluating BSL issuances + monitoring the portfolio and adjusting the book from time to time packet
+2 delete franker014124
+2 Thanks for the feedback. I have heard the same sentiment from others on this forum about IU Kelley, but does it also translate into employment? hrrhheebeudhehduduje
+2 That’s called hiring for fit. A bunch of incompetents hiring another one. Senior VP in IB - Cov
+2 congrats on GS Salt Lake City Intern in IB-M&A
+2 I don’t think you understand the nature of my comment. There are funds raised to buy the asset from some additional LPs, but the asset does not change hands. Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+2 I think you should be totally fine with the analyst program. It’s pretty rigorous and you will be competing and learning from a lot of smart people around you. thunderbird_neo
+2 Fun fact simply buying stocks would have outperformed the last 5 years of doing this coinvest laka
+2 Dcfanddtf Analyst 1 in IB - CB
+2 Del Generic Banker
+2 UBS LevFin. All the group does all day every day is long internal credit memos that are heavily templated. There are good PC exits, but who wants to be in PC, which is blowing up right now? Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Agree.  This is the use case for PC.  DDTL and relatedly for the sub scale assets.  But I would also argue that this is another form of lower quality/something the borrower should pay for. CPDDOUGH
+2 Longest post ever to say overpaying is bad ImagineSisyphusHappy
+2 Well I’m sorry you’re confused. I’ve been in secondaries for 20 years and I don’t even like GP-leds, but I felt it necessary to call out your most blatant misconception, among many, on the market. m8
+2 Generally I think this is a bad take - but putting that aside you are showing just how little you know about real estate services as an industry if you think their business is just brokers selling buildings for institution patrick_bateman_
+2 Misleading post. Their platform has no time tracker so it's pay per task, rather than pay per hour. Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+2 I hear you, and it truly feels like you have been dealt with a shitty hand. The real challenge is the D above you. thunderbird_neo
+2 Has to be the new JPM building, right? sheldonxp
+2 Not exactly. I think the agency experience is what got me to the interviews. over-levered-mf
+2 Good results are luck driven. To be as consistently bad as Clearlake has been is a skill in and of itself. Principal in PE - LBOs
+2 You’re so hardo bro congrats on Jeff enjoy ur below market comp Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+2 Heard that UBS is cancelling subscription with LSEG refinitv firmwide VP in IB - Gen
+2 Hec is an easy choice. It's a cohort of like 50 top tier students. LBS is closer to 300 now so the outcomes are a bit mixed. Brag680
+2 Bocconi. Bristol is a semi target. You'll clear more screenings with bocconi  Prospect in Acct - Other
+2 Don’t waste your time with Kroll. Lincoln is a better Val shop and pays miles better. If you’re looking to do PE, the PV team at Lincoln supposedly places decently into small shops. unpaidintern
+2 Best sex generally comes with difficult personalities. You’re cooked Handy_panda
+2 If we take a hypothetical JPMorgan Chase or Bank of America LevFin, even with minimal modeling, such candidates often win due to the brand, training structure and selection at the entrance. Maaximus
+2 While I do believe that you could’ve genuinely experienced the flight risk ordeal in the past, I think you’re largely over-estimating the prestige of IB. It’s not that serious man. rolo25
+2 It is a decent firm, in the same way that BlackRock is a decent firm, brand name does attract talent at the start. But with experience you will know it is not in the same league as the top macro shops  PM in HF - EquityHedge
+2 LSEG now officially characterized as Fake News by UBS Hardos Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+2 MV will take us to the promised land. Trust.  Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 So I would say at this point you kind of need to ask yourself, how badly do I want to work in high finance? You're basically a rising senior and summer 2027 recruiting is like 95% over. Anonymous Monkey
+2 Landscaping in general is tough, there’s the good recurring revenue (mowing lawns, clean up leaves, HOA contracts or other commercial work) and then the project based work. guyfromct
+2 Compared to their MiM yes. The cohort is much lower quality in the essec mif so the outcomes are evidently mediocre... For Paris it can be okay but for London definitely not.  thib56
+2 Esade for mif would be better. Warwick MiF does not place nearly as well as their bachelors. You'd be an international in UK market so it's even worse if you want to land those entry level roles.  Bander77
+2 dont drop out, you are at best uni studying arguably one of the most highly regarded courses out there. your current part time opportunity only came about because you are at oxford and studying such a rigorous course. spiff
+2 Bring up trains or baseball stats - that usually does the trick KageSelly
+2 UBS!We like to pitch Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+2 I understand your point, and in general it seems logical: NYU Stern School of Business really has a very strong position in IB in New York, and this is felt in the preparation of students and their "readiness for work". Maaximus
+2 I’ll say that you’re advice is very reasonable and accurate, but I was being somewhat hyperbolic/facetious to highlight the difficulty I have believing that corporations look to fill their fp&a slots specifically with rolo25
+2 Blair without a doubt Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Other commenter right. Only other uni you’re missing is Warwick - generally ranks below target and above semi-target (it’s a weird one). Then again you’d have to study at Warwick, so… Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+2 If this is not a troll post then wtf. How can you get into Stanford if you don’t see the clear answer here Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+2 This is actually enough info to identify OP lmao. Can’t say I’m surprised  Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+2 Dumb internal politics and fighting (CS, UBS, ex-Barclays) meant the PF bank bled the best people from each of their respective groups going in. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 This ranking is fake. Dyal should be in the top 5. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 BumpWas thinking about the same actually but have been hearing that you basically get a cut on the base, big cut in the bonus and possibly don’t participate in carry. Moreover it’s a point of no return Rob-the-chimp
+2 I had a parent pass away from alcoholism in my late teens. I don't know if I have a solution but definitely try and help him. All it takes is one night to cross the line permanently. Job Trunicht
+2 What could help here? Are ai tools taking off any load? Need more juniors or what? - senior banker who generally cares about junior wellbeing Works at Goldman Sachs
+2 Bunch of cry baby virgins here Rick_Sanchez009
+2 Middle market growth buyouts fund (part of a larger platform) software focused  Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+2 Notice how the valuation came in below the offering range? That group is experiencing some structural issues, and every vertical shares responsibility that caused them. Associate 2 in IB - Gen
+2 RBC Metals & Mining Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 Oh, so the UK needs this many finance jobs solely to cover its own economy? loser1234
+2 Congrats on Jeffries! Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 This sounds a bit abnormal to me, even for commercial banking. Is this a large bank? Most banks I work with (though not all) are actually quite knowledgeable and go much deeper into analysis. PuppyBackedSecurities
+2 Greatly appreciate the full landscape breakdown. 和平
+2 They’ll just shift the blame to juniors. They’ll do everything but to take responsibilities in that group. Every client that is even contemplating doing business with RBC FIG should come to WSO first lol Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Bocconi since it's their target program. I'd go with imperial 2nd and essec as worst choice  Goj5979
+2 The differences between the five semi's you mentioned are mostly marginal. If you’re deciding purely on prestige, go with Durham (mostly Oxbridge rejectees, traditional feeling). Lorderic
+2 He's more than likely quoting what the potential value of all his carry that would vest over the period would be assuming the rosiest possible outcome. PrivateTechquity 🚀🚀🚀
+2 Yes, this will definitely end well! Jeffery Montenbeauberg
+2 Cash, post-tax? I would guess that I COULD walk away with $5m. Whatever1984
+2 prestige =/= fees Intern in IA
+2 out of undergrad or experienced? Analyst 2 in IB - Restr
+2 Know dozen of top candidates who didn't apply HL RX at all because they aren't interested in RX Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+2 M&A much better for skills. You’ll place better and be better at modeling. Wells FSG just does simple credit models (cash flow) where they take a simple sponsor lender model and add some basic assumptions.  Works at Wells Fargo
+2 Barclays 65 an1 80 an2  userlsewarrior
+2 is RBC not a low compared to like a HL/Piper/WB? Thought it was more like JEFF level Prospect in IB-M&A
+2 Damn, reason I even asked is because I had a friend at a bb who told me about their own buddies experience (hence, I am aware of which 14 list class this is) and from what was floated around -> some got passed up even w pt134
+2 As a heavy AI user who's helped evaluate what to use at my firm, we basically settled on exactly this logic and have not committed to any of the verticalized players because what's the point, who knows who will win, and Cl Principal in PE - LBOs
+2 Fortunately, I worked on the buy-side in distressed debt as a sophomore so I knew a bunch of the advisors and lawyers and banks across RX. Perpetually_Unlucky
+2 Copying from another thread but still applicable: Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 Lol if you get an offer there you take it. Just shut up intern Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+2 They would have to 17x their output to be #6 Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 I think your time would be far better spent networking with potential research analysts to get a foot in the door or writing research reports on an actual company rather than taking those exams.  NegativeNPV
+2 When you apply to internships, springs, or full-time roles, you typically send a CV or a Cover Letter as part of your application. Intern in IB-M&A
+2 Just stumbled on this while searching for a thread we posted on some time ago (trying to put together a little note on style for my jr's).  longandshort
+2 If there's any chance you work in the USA or Europe for a while, no fucking way you can argue against Dartmouth. The slight impact on "prestige" from Stanford to Dartmouth is nothing, especially at that price. Associate 1 in PE - Other