+2 Not even 30; try 60 or 70. The main barrier of entry to direct vessel ownership is the capex. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Congrats on skyknight  Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+2 Thank you for the advice ! Got the offer 😁 role109
+2 Wtf? Do you have Stockholm syndrome? This is absolutely unacceptable behavior, report and sue therealgekko
+2 Title = analyst This is year 7 for me Don’t think outlier, 30-40m PNL range not outlier Investment Analyst in HF - EquityHedge
+2 After 2 years in any sort of investing role, practically the only thing you will be judged on is the quality of your pitches and discussion of work previously performed. Benson Says
+2 I'd say do it. If your MD believes in you enough to pull you over thats already a good sign. If he's going to be taking a leadership position at another firm I'd imagine thats at least a few good years of job security. Gold-ManSacks
+2 Based on the table looks like Stifel has more US M&A than UBS Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+2 but semi-target background, yes, had a no name finance internship on my resume. 5 interviewers in sd, 2 rounds before that. Honestly, was more technical than I was expecting, case+timed model. Did not get offer. gummywummy3322
+2 It won't make an impact, but worth addressing it anyway. I've had non-severe but persistent acne my whole teenage / adult life and doing a second accutane course in my mid-30s. Works at Other
+2 Yes. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+2 Congrats on getting through the first round! From what I’ve seen, Citadel’s timeline can vary a lot some people hear back within a week, others a bit longer depending on the office and scheduling. wirkutskijkarl
+2 First off, congratulations on retirement being around the corner. Love seeing vets in finance and not slinging tee shirts or working in CIF. HighlyLeveraged69
+2 Anonymous Monkey: Associate 1 in RE - Comm
+2 My view, take the IB job. The key is learning how to capitalize deals with the use of debt and all the different mechanics that go into using debt to finance the deal. palm_beach_ll
+2 I'm a native-born U.S. citizen, just speaking the truth. America has never been "coherent"; you're almost certainly a mutt of dozens of different European ethnicities. Try again Intern in Consulting
+2 No because I’m looking for a girl who’s willing to meet me halfway early on. pants_pooper_67
+2 I haven’t seen this play out personally but don’t feel like it would be feasible — there’s so many more decent candidates than seats, what would be the incentive for a HH / firm to deal with the headache here as opposed to Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Market volatility increases deal flow for bankers, and right now is a generational buying / dealmaking opportunity so I’m seeing activity actually heat up. liquidiot
+2 screw you lmao - these ai models are buns  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 CLT got it Intern in IB - Gen
+2 "...it still doesn't change the fact that PE is on the way down and another industry will replace it." jl12
+2 I was at jp this summer and heard it first hand.. also see from another thread re. levfin: Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Many satellite offices are still elite though - GS TMT CHI, JPM Industrials CHI, EVR Chi (all industrials/paper and packaging, but elite); definitely a bit closer between them and top rx shops tho. Prospect in IB - Gen
+2 If PE is the end goal, I’d optimize for seat time, not optionality. Direct PE reps early compound fast, especially at a fund where analysts actually touch diligence, IC memos, and portfolio work. Hanlon
+2 That’s 1mm spent on the possibility of recruitment. Most HF PMs I know don’t gaf about your MBA and recruit on the training, intellectual and behavioral features specifically targeted for that position. Managing Director in IB-M&A
+2 Fair question, and I think the above comments have merit given SA is much less of a concern to HR than full time. Still, I’m at a BB as an A2A who lateraled from MM IB. ApeSuppreme
+2 While I do believe that you could’ve genuinely experienced the flight risk ordeal in the past, I think you’re largely over-estimating the prestige of IB. It’s not that serious man. rolo25
+2 Nice try. Go back to entertaining your in-laws whom you despise else your wife will make you sleep on the couch this winter break.  Principal in IB - Cov
+2 In the idiot pyramid:  An_3
+2 who made this  ivanshah
+2 Dyal analysts clear 300-350k. Is Q really above that? Associate Director in IB-M&A
+2 There's a reason why BB BS lending groups have strong exits - they have established training programs and almost guarantee that you'll see a ton of deals and get good reps in the first few years of your career. Analyst 1 in RE - Comm
+2 Better camaraderie in banking, the culture of PE is more cutthroat (would say the vast majority of PE professionals would agree). asdf1248
+2 lol well you’re in for a rude awakening, it’s a 2 year contract and then they give you a 3rd year analyst offer mid way through 2nd year. Nobody gets an associate promo after 2 years here. Source: I work here Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 PWP is EB and pays more than MOE/LAZ, with pretty top exits as well. Get Gugg the fuck out of here intern Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+2 Performance is very political / not merit based until MD. The only people who truly make a difference to a bank’s bottom line are the top ~5% of MDs who originate real deals.  RBOB_squarepants
+2 RBC M&A B+/A- anonyyyymous
+2 So I would say at this point you kind of need to ask yourself, how badly do I want to work in high finance? You're basically a rising senior and summer 2027 recruiting is like 95% over. Anonymous Monkey
+2 Don’t forget he has very high standards but goes to an extreme non target. Make it make sense.  Associate 1 in IB - CB
+2 I’ll say that you’re advice is very reasonable and accurate, but I was being somewhat hyperbolic/facetious to highlight the difficulty I have believing that corporations look to fill their fp&a slots specifically with rolo25
+2 Not common but it does happen.  You for sure know enough about a product to trade it after having banked it for a couple of years, but that does not mean you would be a personality fit for trading. Director in S&T - FI
+2 Do not tell them under any circumstances that you are recruiting. 100% risk, zero reward  Associate 1 in IB - CB
+2 Congrats on UVA/mich/gtown! rooseveltfan
+2 Ignore the title, I’m an AN2 who did off-cycle and had to get my associate to cover for a few longer interview processes.  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Helpful to hear everyone's anecdotes on here. The funny (and depressing) thing is that finance has been one of the least affected industries. Penguin2006
+2 A few a nuanced observations (more Exit focused and tailored towards Front Office IB roles in India): klpd_klpd
+2 But thats always the way though isn't it wallstreetbroker
+2 Great reply here. OP. Why don’t you go to CBRE’s website, create a login, pick a listing and request data room access. Feel like that’s a good start. palm_beach_ll
+2 Nope, long gone. The entire team is gone, lol. Company never IPOed. They no longer even have a Corp Dev function.  Associate 3 in CorpDev
+2 Firm handshake + eye contact + printed resume = Job wallstreetbroker
+2 lmao they are overtaking MS in IB advisory fees desping being half the size. Good try bud Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 Average NESCAC student, coming from a fellow NESCAC grad.  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 At Nine has the best Pad Kee Mao in the city but if you're going to be on 9th you'll ideally be a little higher up (46-57th would be better).  My first apartment was on 49th and 9th.  Was a perfectly fine start. CharlesCheese
+2 I did mention Oxbridge interviews right? Read it again. incoming_analyst
+2 Age: freshly 28 Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+2 I’m based in Italy. I think the main issue is that when GS rejected me, the MD told me: alexto
+2 Well yes definitely but it's also fair to say HYPSM is definitely not better than Oxbridge at all and they're basically on the same level, and, maybe MIT/Caltech outshine the rest. incoming_analyst
+2 At MS in another group - super sweaty, shitty culture and very neurotic Associates and VPs with no life outside the office. Would avoid  Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 L/S equity pod shop This year should be 3.5-4m depending on year end Last year 3m Investment Analyst in HF - EquityHedge
+2 So they can rule over ashes? Corp_titan
+2 My bad. Here you go for 2025: Genesis Healthcare, Hooters, Steward Healthcare, Joann. east.block
+2 Congrats on uchi! Does your ex boyfriend go to stern rooseveltfan
+2 Idk if you just work for a shit bank or something but software M&A volume has been hot. We aren’t in the business of selling MM PE shitcos. If your at some garbage MM bank then maybe your career is over. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 It’s the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Developer in RE - Comm
+2 I don't get these figures. Are they all tech, startup or PE-backed roles? I'm at a public F500. 4 YOE in IB (no PE) and am getting only $150K all-in currently...albeit at a LCOL/MCOL area. Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+2 OP here Associate 3 in IB - Cov
+2 Hec is an easy choice. It's a cohort of like 50 top tier students. LBS is closer to 300 now so the outcomes are a bit mixed. Brag680
+2 I don’t actually know for sure. The ex bankers who pivoted to consulting came from either an MBA program or a lack of deal experience was not an issue for them. Associate 2 in CorpFin
+2 Do not work here, much better shops in MM PE esp given how the fund has trended. They push culture a lot but they are a bit fake wsochimp2026
+2 There's a 90% chance this is bait, but on the odd chance it isn't, let me just point out that for a 6-7 inch height increase you would need DOUBLE leg lengthening surgery, which is even MORE brutal than just regular LL, an John.Sa.
+2 Compared to their MiM yes. The cohort is much lower quality in the essec mif so the outcomes are evidently mediocre... For Paris it can be okay but for London definitely not.  thib56
+2 Wtf this has to be some AI or spam, every account above has some weird username generated and clearly advertising a product. All brand new accounts too… Anonymous Monkey
+2 Know someone there, super sweaty Prospect in IB - Gen
+2 Something i did to reduce mouse usage was taking the first 3 weeks to look up shortcuts for everything i use my mouse for and force myself to use keyboard instead. dnskndke
+2 As a lifelong auto fanatic, I can give you a few good names that you might not have thought of: Moritz Mickelweiß
+2 Pre revenue? Unless you find a unicorn buyer, I can’t imagine anyone wanting this. Why not spend the money on your own brand? You haven’t found a paying customer yet which is odd. acardboardmonkey
+2 Thank you again for taking the time. Associate 3 in IB - Cov
+2 middilmiddilDo you want to spend the most intellectually formative years of your life surrounded by ….  retarded blonde sorority chicks ... easy choice. PM in HF - Event
+2 Right now 0% but not because I don’t get any carry. The promote in all my deals is long gone (wrote it off in my head Q3 2022) :( larry david
+2 it was very good, the typical tell me about yourself, why Morgan Stanley, why IED, what are your skills that set you apart, which sub group are you interested in joining, which is your strongest skill and any questions for yeslord
+2 I want to nudge my kids (they are elementary/middle school age) into robotics as it seems like: odog @digitalimmortality.com
+2 in the same boat, waiting ReverendSwanson819
+2 Copying from another thread but still applicable: Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 How is DEI limited to bottom buckets when for every promotion round we have 50% gender split even though we have far more male candidates? Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 Thanks for the comment. Interesting about finmath, I've heard mixed things from MiF students and am still unsure.  pbgrxavel
+2 Bumping for visibility. I unfortunately know nothing about this space but have always been interested. The only thing I can share is I always hated dealing with REITS when I was on the sell-side (brokerage). hardcode4u
+2 May Intern in IB - Gen
+2 If that were true, the non-DEI analysts would not be picking up the slack left behind by the DEI woman/URMs but in practice, that does occur. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Bump, have first round interviews dropped? pptmaster395
+2 Their near-term business and portfolio are fine. If they really shit the bed maybe its a low single digit type return. Investment Analyst in HF - Other
+2 lol this is comically wrong 135 base vs 175 base to start is already a 40k bonus and no An3 is getting a beater bonus than an As1 Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 MM shops still running and a few BB are still going. Other than that, off-season is possible. It’s over when u give up and not over when u dont Prospect in IB - Cov
+2 It might be how you're positioning it. Running a process is running a process, regardless of sell side/buy side. You are basically a transactional finance project manager at this stage. TechBanking
+2 Are you stupid? You literally have a guy at an UMM firm commenting on on this post explaining it’s not. I’m at a MF and agree completely with what he’s saying. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+2 Any advice on how to be best prepared for lateral recruiting? Intern in IB-M&A
+2 I just PM'd you wuandale33
+2 What the heck. Obviously senior people start funds. The point of this post is about associates who don’t make VP Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+2 Blair without a doubt Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Personally, I have noticed the opposite - interns nowadays come off as much more hardworking, polite, sociable, etc. Soros_