+5 This is the only list I’ve seen that’s truly valid Prospect in IB - Gen
+5 Yeah, sorry but you're fucked. At this point, your best option is sales at a paper firm in PA with hopes of a management position in Season 8.  Always prestigemaxx.  Prospect in IB - Gen
+5 Made a similar move to you. The main questions to ask yourself are:1. Have you learned 80% of what you want / need to learn from Consulting? Director in CorpStrat
+5 lol at my MM firm VP (esp VP1) does everything. anywhere from banking analyst to senior principal. You have all the responsibility/blame. Dnt get the credit. only sometimes have junior resource. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+5 I don’t know where WSO get this from but Tech and Sponsors gets 70 on the lower end and 95 to 100 on deal sprints. Have a buddy who is AN2/AD1 in tech and seems pretty jammed most days. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+5 In all fairness, I sound like an LGP hater (because I also am). Yes the ability to buy back at a discount is attractive but the fact that there's a discount in the first place shows a couple problems: Associate 1 in AM - Other
+5 It's interesting you mention agency actually, as I was having this conversation with some colleagues (admittedly a bias sample) and I think investment management is one of the highest agency jobs. batrickpatemans
+5 get fit (muscular and cardiovascular), take the gmat / gre if you have any inkling about business school (can do this in 3-4 months of focused study), travel, have copious amount of sex, spend time with your loved ones (fa ChasingTheBag
+5 Hi RegattaMonkey199.Please see my responses below Luke.F
+5 nice problem to have Prospect in Consulting
+5 Reservation at DorsiasIt might be the equivalent going from:  Associate 3 in IB - Cov
+5 by a mile use m​a​​r​g​i​​n​ ​o​​f​ ​a​​l​p​h​a really wide spread among UK clubs sharing accounts Intern in IB-M&A
+5 When a senior person invites you to something (coffee, lunch, a site tour, golf, whatever), say yes. CRE Credit
+5 Assume I understand VC and GE historical distro of returns… you clearly missed moonshots sentence since you repeated it. THUS moving on. VP in PE - LBOs
+5 People ragging on you too much. Not everyone ends up as a pm and that’s fine. It’s still a great job as an analyst even if you’re a career analyst. sick_willy
+5 Throwing in some additional perspective. The nature of the MF world is different now than it was many moons ago.  Hags28
+5 I totally get what you're saying, and you'll understand this if you majored in CS and did tech work. I'm gonna build on top of an example mentioned here: Datadog. regret_tech
+5 Some coverage groups are sweatier than street and work way more than other groups but still get paid the same low pay as the groups who do nothing  Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+5 My friend, you sound drained and I feel for you because I have been there. For whatever reason, your job took its toll on you. In my view the question is not what options are available to you. Principal in HF - Other
+5 I think there are a lot of outliers being posted here. If you leave PE after an associate program $175-225K cash + equity for a manager / sr manager / associate director title is likely where most of you will land. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+5 Perspective from the UK: unders
+5 Seems like you’re still in school. Managing Director in HF - Other
+5 I think you’re seriously overthinking everything… not a good thing if you want to work at a HF… Investment Analyst in HF - Event
+5 Kind of explains the move toward boring stabilized core. Hard to do much else after cutting the AM and leasing teams lol Berkeley12
+5 Having AI write your posts is embarrassing Summer Associate in Risk Mnmgt
+5 There was a citadel this year, and last year, and two the year before that Intern in IB - Cov
+5 BofA: Here are rough numbers I've gathered for mid bucket (ME). Man guys not in office today due to weather. Let me know if I'm off anywhere, would appreciate any corrections. yijocar279
+5 I think it's very feasible and have seen people do the same. It would help to target smaller developers where you can get your foot in the door. StringerBellRE
+5 Analyst 3+ in HF - EquityHedge RCJ92
+5 I've heard the word AI more times than I can count in the last week- my only thought is how many people on my IC have actually used Claude or ChatGPT in any real capacity?  Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+5 He’s not getting ragged on for not having made PM. Research Analyst in HF - Other
+5 Good point, I didn’t mean to come across as entitled to think anything is guaranteed in banking, more so meant that I would have good deal flow across a good industry like healthcare which would leave options open going fo intern67
+5 I think AIF looks for people who are very smart, but importantly have something outstanding about them, like jeff, or some award, or unique internship experience. Prospect in IB - Gen
+5 I don't understand this point on living expenses. On a $200k salary your after tax take home in NYC is $140k, so you can spend $10k/mo and still have $20k of annual buffer left for one time expenses. PM in HF - Other
+5 put on a suit and tieprint your CVwalk up to the MD and shake his hand very firmlylook him in the eye and say your not leaving till you get a job in the mailroomand work your way up anonf0fty
+5 100% agreed. VP in PE - LBOs
+5 This is correct. Tax flight on assets is not a myth, we have seen it play out in France / UK. Can you elaborate?  What happened and what was the reaction? Ozymandia
+5 Eww no not UBS Analyst 1 in IB - ECM
+5 Ask if they have strawberry milk. Shows that you're a true milk connoisseur.  Substack_Guy
+5 As very, very general points, (1) yes the market has become more competitive as tides shift and new competitor banks (often boutiques) enter certain verticals, but (2) this takes years if not decades, and your reps and bro Count WACCula
+5 I would have plowed way more chicks Partner in RE - Comm
+5 I joined out of UG, was placed with this team and I’ve been here for 3 years now.  Analyst 2 in HF - EquityHedge
+5 I rather get paid more at a MM Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+5 If I were in your shoes - I'd target jumping from sell side to an AM firm first. Take your experience, coverage area, and pitch yourself to be an LO equity analyst at an LO AM of really any size. Addinator
+5 Gang I know people who are in Disneyland for their orientation😭 Which bank is doing this to you? Intern in IB-M&A
+5 Alright, pencils down for me to guess how CRE/asset intensity professionals can pivot to Physical AI (infrastructure and robots): odog @digitalimmortality.com
+5 ojapar20"Any impartial observer of the AI bubble..."  Ozymandia
+5 Been 15 years personally Partner in IB - Gen
+5 Just look at this forum... all I get from the "target-"students here is a feeling, that they have a weird & annoying elitism to them. afdhfg
+5 Typically I would say join AI company but at a Series D unless you're at the next Anthropic / OpenAI I wouldn't count your equity to be a life changer (maybe 7 figures by the time you IPO - if ever)? VP in PE - LBOs
+5 ILOVEBANANAS123
+5 fries bag bro Prospect in IB-M&A
+5 I would just straight up ask if there is anyone else they could introduce me to instead of batting around the question Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+5 I originally wrote some random jokes here but I’ll “sober” up and write in seriousness Hags28
+5 if your middle eastern id say stay away from middle eastern companies, not a knock on you specifically but seeing someone do an internsip at a "home" country just reeks of nepostism compared to someone genuinley going abor Associate 2 in IB-M&A
+5 I know it’s hard to think long-term early in your career, but for anything outside of finance, international jobs, MBA programs, etc. the JPM brand will do a lot more for you. Managing Director in IB-M&A
+5 Age: 31 9 years buyside PM at MM HF (L/S) PM in HF - EquityHedge
+5 TopBoy.-What do you think happens when many people, with high incomes, move to a much smaller city with a lower cost of living? howtomakeitinamerica
+5 As someone who just got their MBA and now at a UMM as a VP, senior associates thinking of lateraling, really try to get that VP promote. VP in PE - LBOs
+5 ur not proving me wrong m8 Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+5 Baruch, Fordham, Rutgers, middlebury Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+5 Whoosh2710Hello, thanks for doing this.  Associate 1 in Private Credit
+5 Sounds like you are enjoying it, hopefully it stays that way.  Lots of valid perspectives and situations.  IMO, for pure data guys being “the first” data guy at a place, various pluses and minuses.   oil_quant
+5 BofA C&R is mid af Also super bloated Business School in IB - Gen
+5 I work at CVP and echo the above, but to a more extreme degree. Of the actual home-grown partners would say there are ~2 or 3 that are producing on-par with the expected water-line of ~$25mm revenue per partner. Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+5 Take this from someone in the RX consulting world - we love people with experience since it's a very niche industry that also requires people to hit the ground running from day 1. Lester Freamon
+5 It will most heavily impact all of the 'marginal' jobs and/or seats across the industry. Addinator
+5 I think really what AI comes down to is what do you think the average person is willing to pay for the productivity boost it provides. Lester Freamon
+5 I’ve interacted with the school over the years. Mainly through their MBA program but have seen undergrads alumni on LinkedIn or Wall Street or whatever. It’s a pretty LA focused school. Hags28
+5 Top 3 of the podcasts I follow and IMO one of the best tech/investing podcasts out there bar none, been listening to them since 2021. PrivateTechquity 🚀🚀🚀
+5 They are a foreign nation that has dragged us into all of the wars since Vietnam, either under false pretenses or by our association with them; Bin Laden openly stated that his reasoning for 9/11 was because of our a seekinthealpha1
+5 Just adding to the above - there are those who can be profitable in commodity businesses. Hags28
+5 Really appreciate you doing this. I was recently promoted to Quant PM and would appreciate some advice on the managerial side of things. ValueCat
+5 Yes banking sucks. But it’s really valuable if you’re using it as a stepping stone to other careers (PE, HF, startups, top MBA then pivot, etc.). apetrynamakeit
+5 As someone stuck in consulting on IT related projects at one of Big 4's competitors, I feel like I'm pigeonholed if I don't leave within 2 years post MBA. Business School in CorpStrat
+5 Take Laz or PJT. Depends on what u want out of your analyst program. crazyplayer135
+5 DEI bad, now give me SB Intern in Consulting
+5 “Gmail” Intern in IB - Cov
+5  UBS should just build out the team they want.  Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+5 Wow digging up a question from my past! I think what I was asking, however, is what about where you don't diverge with consensus estimates / mkt estimates a ton.  mtnmaster1
+5 Santander kid to LGP Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+5 order the smallest coffee and just suck it up man dont be weird  Associate 2 in IB-M&A
+5 For a while some of my buddies randomly would say "what's the 411 tonight?" and became a common phrase among our friend group (mostly as an inside joke). Its a pretty outdated way of saying "what's the scoop".  Chopped_Banker94
+5 This forum makes it seem like rising in high finance or corporate America in general is easy. But the truth is the majority of people on this site are under 30 and barely know what’s going on. Smoke Frog
+5 Sorry for your loss (and congrats on having a place in Greenwich lol). Intern in IB - Gen
+5 There’s literally an entire field called prompt engineering dedicated to prompting language models effectively. DEVMGMT Consultant
+5 Thanks, don't disagree with you. I'll add though that I'm pretty satisfied with comp and overall situation, just more that I want to be doing strategic things to position myself for when the time comes. Developer in RE - Comm
+5 is the sky blue? Prospect in IB-M&A
+5 Think gugg has definitely been on that tier the past 2 years, but agree on MB on second thought simplyorange19
+5 Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+5 Clearly a trolling post, but realistically GUGG Houston comps are closer to firms like Donovan Ventures, Opportune, and Legado Advisors. SMU Final Boss
+5 Selling subprime MBS and shorting SaaS debt qazwsx246
+5 UBS TMT must have the best WLB on the street if the juniors there are able to post on WSO this much.  Intern in IB - Gen
+5 Least obvious product shill VP in Consulting
+5 Ok maybe but let’s focus on what has actually happened rather than what you think should happen to everyone else. KR8000
+5 Main problem with seeking career satisfaction goals for most people is that they do it at the exclusion of other important things in life The Penguin
+5 Hey, my take on your two questions: 1) There was definitely some luck/favourable timing that helped me ramp up as quickly. Associate 3 in PE - Other
+5 In terms of true non targets- FSU Intern in IB - Gen
+5 Rule makers and enforcers on Wall Street are white men. Historically, their main competition has been Asian / Brown / Arab men. VP in IB - Cov
+5 As someone who used to recruit in both, candidate calibre in London on average is much higher than in the States cuz of those European Masters students with multiple deal experiences and speaking multiple European language brtfedd1312