+2 You could contact CFAI, but you could also say yes and then make the disclosure, and they will likely approve you. StreetToStreets
+2 Soros_Is there a single country, other than maybe Israel, that is closer to that has moved towards America and away from China today vs the Biden administration? TLBandChill
+2 order a tequila definitelynotafinancebro
+2   Didn’t realize we had a DB brand ambassador in here disliking all the DB comments lmao      honeychocolate1037
+2 Maybe - I needed some way to filter out and in my mind like I said it was a bit of a cop out answer. But regardless, I'd still have it lower for sure. omsos20032
+2 2021 was insane, I helped out with lateral recruiting at the time. Had someone from a tiny, lowest of LMM single-MD boutique join my top industry group at a BB and we were begging them to do so.  Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+2 Mostly office and in a national practice so have seen a bit in most major markets. Seems like the markets that got hammered during COVID (Chicago/SFs of the world) seem to be having a semblance of a moment again. bananaboat55
+2 Associate 2 in RE - CommMultifamilyGuy MultifamilyGuy
+2 Bump, good on you for helping others DingalingMagnet
+2 Somewhat, think there is a big personality difference between the average banker vs. trader. The traders I know have a higher risk appetite than the average banker. Sigma.Batman
+2 Investment Analyst in HF - Other jake_b290
+2 Hey man, first of all good luck with the process. excelmonkey5410
+2 The finance and legal side gives you a strong foundation, but the “real estate instinct” usually comes from pattern recognition rather than something people are born with. russellsimp.s.on7.09.1
+2 whats the point of these separate threads. just post in the master thread.  Analyst 2 in IB - Gen
+2 Nice write-up and explanation of many aspects of the Rx space. However, I'm going to have to strongly disagree that it's more technical than Rx IB (although definitely more so than healthy IB). VP in IB - Restr
+2 You've posted this at least three times.  Prospect in IB - Gen
+2 You are not liked nor loved Intern in IB - CB
+2 Guys who get inbounds from recruiters – how many months / years of experience did you have when it started happening more consistently? avocado_2303
+2 Thanks for your comment, this is really detailed.  Taxidermy Bird
+2 Interesting grass is always greener take. My dad is very high up at a big tech company and he thinks it’s not what it used to be and did not recommend me and my siblings go into tech. Associate 3 in RE - Comm
+2 captainseriousHereToWatch: Anonymous Monkey
+2 Average Veritas associate. Every Veritas employee or ex-Veritas employee just tells me to avoid the firm when I ask about it, which is completely different than the WSO reputation of it being a top shop to join. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 ESCP & Bayes > RestKnow lots of good job outcomes from both of those programs. rpdwldn
+2 Damn I guess their eating well if no one wants to complain Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 You would have to go to IB first, which is a pretty roundabout way to get there and probably 4-5 years from today to be in a PE seat. If you're getting final rounds I would keep at it, you are close. Associate 3 in IB-M&A
+2 my friend with big 4 audit got it so prob skill diff Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+2 Red Rising by Pierce Brown Abusement Park
+2 No, I got the phone # of the person whom I talked to and texted them the next day (as we were both somewhat drunk at the end of the night and didn't want to seem obnoxious) and asked if the offer was still on the table, an Investment Analyst in HF - RelVal
+2 If you were to actually get into the HEC or Escp MiF or similar, you won't be limited to Paris  adrien3
+2 Thank you for the insight S&T intern Analyst 1 in IB - ECM
+2 I definitely know IR Associates making ~$300K all-in with 0 IR experience beforehand (though rare). Granted these are folks with prior IBD experience at a top-shop and compensation is inclusive of profit sharing. IRR-Responsible IR
+2 Agreed; definitely depends on the firm, strategy and how Investor Relations is viewed at the firm-level. IRR-Responsible IR
+2 Yes indeed, I am in the multifamily development business.I am against immigration despite that it undoubtedly helps my business. My opposition is purely on political grounds. larry david
+2 Pfft. Jefferies for sure bro. Below market comp with “hardo” hours and a fat ceo who posts instagram memes? Easy. Associate 1 in IB-M&A
+2 It’s so funny that people want to work more. It’s a federal holiday. You should get it off. I golfed and watched the U.S. game. It was great. I’m in full support of any holidays and days off for myself. Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Job is very different at the junior and senior levels. Senior bankers are ultimately selling advisory service and the juniors are doing the background analysis behind the advisory service. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Brown whoooo
+2 Want to be a quant but don’t want something too “coding heavy”. Brotha, what are you smoking? It’s 2025. The games changed. For 1, your finance degree is beyond useless. No trading firm will interview you. chadmaxxer
+2 You’ve got a solid foundation—BB IBD experience and strong extracurriculars definitely help. DerivativesRiskEducation
+2 Thanks, that's super helpful! Analyst 1 in RE - Comm
+2 What was your GMAT / GRE? If there is significant room to improve (like if you were below or even barely above the averages for your target schools) and you are willing to put the time in, it could be worth it. SearchLookFind
+2 Sounds like you did some free work for a developer. No lunch break? I would have walked out PE-MD
+2 What if u wanna lateral to Pyongyang? RestIess
+2  WF is a great place to be if you want to stick it out in banking for a few years, but not a great bank for exits (right now). RBOB_squarepants
+2 I think the answer is yes at the obvious entry points and no across the actual market. Ex-consultant in Tech
+2 NewIndustryHorizonNah, I play tennis because I actually want a workout. Pokemon Master
+2 These are for North America. kegari
+2 MS NYC tech isn't even one of their top 3 NY coverage groups lol. Man why do people feel the need to post a new ranking thread every 5 minutes. This forum is literal shit now. Associate 3 in IB - Cov
+2 Extra bonus red flags if they use the term "family" qnt12345
+2 Ignore title. I went from CB to product team to buyside credit. Had interviews for DL when I was in CB but didn’t land any and moved to product team first Analyst 2 in IB - DCM
+2 those debates go beyond pure economic rationale because economic rationale is very narrow minded in either covering gaps or increasing productivity and pay no attention to the social contract that we have in place GS under Blankfein
+2 fair point, Stifel is the beacon of the manifest destiny mantra our country was built on. Associate 3 in PE - LBOs
+2 Fugue Ozymandia
+2 Chose my degree around it. Semi-target. Finance course. 2:1. anonf0fty
+2 At a big T2. We do one at a time, average is ~60 hrs with 0 weekend work. oasis_basis
+2 In transition phase from anti-pod, pod, to real pod.  Some talented folks.  Your individual experience will be more team dependent than other MMs - all teams are run slightly differently, particularly Fins. Base21
+2 Look if you want to do finance just go LSE. If you want to do engineering just go ETH. Associate 2 in PE - LBOs
+2 m8 i am/was in the same situation kinda. developed high anxiety after having a panic attack and not being able to calm myself. that was 3 years ago. yourrichuncle
+2 nothinglol: Why? Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 Interned and went full time with BofA in the Enterprise Credit program. Comp progression: Poverty-Banker
+2 Early or late are probably the best approaches. Early builds you the network and you move up by learning to source and lateraling. Determined
+2 Amazing, thanks for the thorough response. Very happy for you! hedgehog9
+2 this is not how we got to where we are as a species. i expect more from this forum. monkeyvjit
+2 Presumably the C-PACE is collateralized by some improvements to the land; however, I don't know enough about this specific scenario to opine further.  Associate 2 in RE - Comm
+2 Among the coverage + LevFin / Sponsors groups, only LevFin and CR are genuinely solid right now. Everything else sits somewhere in the middle, with M&A and M&T still clearly at the bottom. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 It's small, positive interactions like this that still motivate me to give back to the community after joining here 13+ yrs ago. Determined
+2 They won't be en vogue even then under a democratic regime, this trend feels structurally excacerbated due to AI and tough labor markets hedgehog9
+2 Short any random biotech stock with as much leverage as your broker will allow you BillHwang69420
+2 long before? the US wasn't even a world power until after WWI. What could possibly have happened to cause the middle eastern countries to hate the US in that period? Corp_titan
+2 Every kid going to an EB at my school is a herb Intern in IB - Cov
+2 Yes, certainly the land owners will have the ability to eat some of those savings. SwansonOrSamsonsite
+2 nah bruh theres that one md that spawn camps the cold brew with a gallon jug Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Jew here. I'm with you.  Am Yisrael Chai. GordonGekko87
+2 lol these comments tell me that people don’t understand the revisions cycle coming in AI. Hard drive companies are literally growing earnings 50%+ for the next two years. AVGO ASIC sales are doubling y/y. SlipperyWhenDry
+2 Like chase coleman and other SM managers made a gajillion dollars just riding the software revisions cycle for ten plus years before the industry hit maturity. SlipperyWhenDry
+2 I guess everyone fudges their numbers to a certain extent. But its always nice to know how you are actually performing.  kil
+2 Any specific reasons to avoid M&A and M&T is it a culture thing or more exits/dealflow? GDUDs
+2 depends on your options and how much u value money a recently arrived immigrant on a boat would do it, some upper middle class guy probably wouldn't  GS under Blankfein
+2 Hey! Totally get where you’re coming from — deciding whether to do an MSF right after undergrad is a big move. wirkutskijkarl
+2 If you’re 5–6 years into your career, a top MBA is generally more effective for re-recruitment into asset management. It’s better aligned with mid-career hiring and gives access to structured recruiting. DerivativesRiskEducation
+2 It’s a tough place to work but these responses are so soft. Do you want to do IB or not? If you do then a couple years of all nighters and getting yelled at is just how you get good at it. Don’t take it so seriously. GoodAsGoldman
+2 From my end, things are way competitive I feel like i need to email more people. Although AI has def made sending emails easier . Prospect in IB - Gen
+2 99% of 3rd party recruiters are a half-step above club-promotors. VanillaGorilla
+2 Just checking if that's correct: Assumptions: MajesticIvo
+2 2am here so this will be rough but: Prospect in Consulting
+2 Veritas is primarily tech and most "healthcare" investments are really HCIT / health tech. Fund has a few verticals but is heavily over indexed to tech with defensible end markets (i.e. Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+2 Not sure why you think NYU Stern is a peer to Brown…or even above Ross lol. Enjoy your shit undergrad Analyst 3+ in IB-M&A
+2 Incoming analyst so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I have spent summers in groups known to be particularly political, so I understand how and why you feel the way you do. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 At some cost though. Heard the GS IND MDs check the league tables monthly and if they're behind, juniors get cooked on a volume of workload that is just unreasonable. So much pressure from the top. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+2 lol if there was one thing AI was born to do it’s slave away lines of code in the language it was written in Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
+2 Why are you so focused on AI taking over your job? If you don’t suck at your job, you won’t be taken over. Asking what other people is going to happen in 20-30 years is also a really bad plan. Investment Analyst in HF - Other
+2 You don’t need any of this. I spent basically $0 and broke in. And now you have Claude or ChatGPT is $20/mo.  Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+2 If you are into O&G, have a Houston nexus / a desire to live there it can be great and fulfilling.  I agree with others here that longer-term O&G (5/10/20 years out) probably not best place to be. Anonymous Monkey
+2 Paid for by whom? I don't understand the confusion around this. A coffee shop carries commercial insurance. A trucking company carries commercial insurance. GoingGoingCaught
+2 Depends on the firm, but at most banks when you give two weeks’ notice they’ll “walk you out” right away; you hand in your credentials, stop working immediately, and they still pay you for the full two-week notice period. The_Biotech_Banking_Expert
+2 If you like the systems design / interaction part of finance (more market facing roles than sell side) go into Mechanical or Chemical engineering. Hard degrees but genuinely AI proof. seekinthealpha1
+2 Know 2 people who have worked there - both are incompetent  high hopes
+2 Ubs is a great place to ruin your career. No need to sugar coat the place Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+2 Know that there was a SD very recently, so assuming you may not have received your desired outcome, I empathize with your frustration and bitterness. That said: Prospect in IB - Gen
+2 I mean, why is it called "investment banking"? Analyst 2 in IB - DCM